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    Made-up science with the spaceships

    Who else gets a bit ticked-off with 'hyperspace' and 'subspace'? I mean we have wromholes, railguns, all sorts of real-life science they have used. And I can accept the weird Sam technobabble crap with stuff about melding space-tiem and realities and stuff, it sounds like somehting out of real science anyway. But I would have liked to see them be a little more hard sci-fi with the space ships. Instead of hyperdrives, have Alcubierre drives (also known as warp drives). If the can have the tech to produce worm holes, that should be easy enough to get. And instead of subspace transmissions, I would have liked to have seen something to do with quantum teleportation and quantum computers. That also always seemed like a good explination for how transporter rings worked.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Indum'kra
    Who else gets a bit ticked-off with 'hyperspace' and 'subspace'? I mean we have wromholes, railguns, all sorts of real-life science they have used. And I can accept the weird Sam technobabble crap with stuff about melding space-tiem and realities and stuff, it sounds like somehting out of real science anyway. But I would have liked to see them be a little more hard sci-fi with the space ships. Instead of hyperdrives, have Alcubierre drives (also known as warp drives). If the can have the tech to produce worm holes, that should be easy enough to get. And instead of subspace transmissions, I would have liked to have seen something to do with quantum teleportation and quantum computers. That also always seemed like a good explination for how transporter rings worked.

    I'm not ticked off. The reason i like Stargate because of severals reasons, 1) Its different idea to other sci-fi shows and Its based around mine/our life time , not like star trek which is in the future and star wars don't know when tht is but its in another galaxy far far away!lol. 2) Most of the tech used in SG is based on real-life things, ideas and theorys, i was researching about hyperspace travel few weeks ago and to me traveling in hyperspace sounds much easier solution to Warp drive and better way to travel Fast-then-light, maybe its the other way around i don't know. Thats the thing i like about it. Plus all the different scenarios. Thats my opinion. .

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      #3
      The Chinese has been researching Quantum Mechanics and say that they should have Quantum Computers out by around 15 years.
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        #4
        Of course they use psuedo-science in Sci-Fi. It is after all... fiction. If you don't know how to actually do something then you just make up a plausible sounding explanation, and there you go. Any how, as I understand it hyperspace and subspace are essentially the same thing. They are in fact based on real and widely accpeted scientific theories. Alcubierre's stardrive is mathematically sound, but it requires negative energy to work. Unfortunately we have no idea how to generate that type of energy, or if it is even possible. There are other stardrive theories, and hyperdrives are one of them.

        I have a theory about how a hyperdrive might work. It essentially involves very powerful and highly focused gravity fields. The gravity field strength itself wouldn't need to be as powerful as you might think. The real trick is focusing the field, which would intensify the field on a small point instead of being spread over a large area. Of course, the wide field dilutes the potential strength of the field. The focused field maximizes the potential of the gravimetric energy, to the point of causing a small tear into the fabric of space-time. This would temporarily create a small passage between 'normal' space, and hyperspace. Stargate refers to it as a 'hyperspace window'. After that it is just a matter of keeping the field active. When you shut down the field, it would force you back into normal space. Anyway... my idea works something like that.
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          #5
          Hate to tell you, but wormholes are much as a theory as its a hyperdrive or the waro drive.

          Do we know how to create a wormhole, or the warp drive? in theory yes, and both need more energie then we have when we convert the hole galaxy into energie.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Auralis
            Hate to tell you, but wormholes are much as a theory as its a hyperdrive or the waro drive.

            Do we know how to create a wormhole, or the warp drive? in theory yes, and both need more energie then we have when we convert the hole galaxy into energie.
            True... unless there is some loophole we don't know about. That is very possible because we know next to nothing about how quantum mechanics really work. If we did, it is possible we could figure out some way to engineer a wormhole or hyperdrive or whatever. The trick is knowing what your doing. Unfortunately, we don't at this point.
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              #7
              I don't remember where, but I remember reading recently that somebody is actually working on a hyperdrive (yes, that's what they called it) and I believe NASA is somehow involved in the project. They said if everything goes as planned a working hyperdrive engine could be built within 5 years. If I remember correctly it involves strong magnetic fields. I'll try to dig up the source.


              Edit: http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...25331.200.html

              or do a google search for more results.
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                #8
                SCI FI = SCIENCE FICTION

                key word FICTION for the most part

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                  #9
                  I was reading somewhere they subspace does actually exist, which makes sense, blackholes do exist, and they influcence it or something.

                  From a purely non scientific or sci-fi stand point. I have always wondered about alternate realities even before i started watching trek and sg1, that one is possible i reckon
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chevron_nine
                    I don't remember where, but I remember reading recently that somebody is actually working on a hyperdrive (yes, that's what they called it) and I believe NASA is somehow involved in the project. They said if everything goes as planned a working hyperdrive engine could be built within 5 years. If I remember correctly it involves strong magnetic fields. I'll try to dig up the source.


                    Edit: http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...25331.200.html

                    or do a google search for more results.

                    Ya, i also heard about tht. Just imagine its like actually like stargate but in real-life . The hyperspace travel i mean. Imagine a Hyperdrive tht actually works and its in our life-time. Anything is possible. Never know the governments in the world do hide a few things.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by NakedJehutyV2
                      SCI FI = SCIENCE FICTION

                      key word FICTION for the most part
                      Yeeeaaaahhhh. Didn't I just say that? (post before last)
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                        #12
                        no


                        anyway theoretically (cuz now humans are too dumb and indisposed with money to try) they're possible

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by NakedJehutyV2
                          no


                          anyway theoretically (cuz now humans are too dumb and indisposed with money to try) they're possible
                          Yeah, whatever.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Seastallion
                            True... unless there is some loophole we don't know about.
                            There are no loopholes in the Laws of Physics! Loopholes imply contradictions, which (to my knowledge) physics doesn't have.

                            Now, there are other methods of preforming things (like traveling between solar systems) without breaking the Laws of Physics, but those aren't loopholes.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by NoDot
                              There are no loopholes in the Laws of Physics! Loopholes imply contradictions, which (to my knowledge) physics doesn't have.

                              Now, there are other methods of preforming things (like traveling between solar systems) without breaking the Laws of Physics, but those aren't loopholes.
                              ahem. The term 'loophole' does NOT imply that your breaking the rules. In FACT... it means that there is a way to do something WITHOUT breaking the rules. It has nothing to do with contradictions. As to the current human understanding of physics, we are far from being able to say anything confidently. We still haven't figured out a way to officially reconcile the Theory of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics. There are some theories that make good attempts (like String Theory), but none have actually proven adequate to the task yet.

                              It reminds me of the movie I was just watching (Around the World in 80 Days, with Jackie Chan... I love Jackie..! ), the Science Academy boldly proclaimed... "We are the Science Academy..! We don't have to prove ANYTHING..!", while claiming that it was impossible for Phineas Fogg to circum-navigate the globe within 80 days. Nothing is impossible... only improbable. People use to say it was impossible to reach the moon, and yet man has achieved it. I always shudder when people claim that science has reached its apex in understanding. Puh-lease...!
                              The success or failure of your deeds, does not add up to the sum of your life. Your spirit cannot be weighed! Judge yourself by the intentions of your actions, and by the strength with which you faced the challenges that have stood in your way. The Universe is so vast, and we are so small, there is only truly one thing we can control; whether we are good or evil... -Oma Desala
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