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    Earth Pegasis communications relay #critical mass spoilers#

    In Critical mass they showed a specific distance between the two galaxies wherefrom Daedalous could relay subspace signals to and from earth. How about dropping some sort of automated relay there? It cant be too hard or expensive to rig up an radio comparable to one of the ships with a appropriate powersource and have Daeddy drop it off the next time it flys by.

    So... stupid idea?

    #2
    Nope, makes perfect sense. That's why they won't do it. The only thing I could figure would be perhaps the Wraith would notice all the communications going to the relay, and figure out which direction Earth is in.
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      #3
      And decypher the messages.

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        #4
        Goa'uld long communication device. Do we know how far they reach?

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          #5
          Originally posted by BlackBaron
          Goa'uld long communication device. Do we know how far they reach?
          We have not. However , as it uses the stargate for transmition, we could assume it can range a entire gatenetwork within a galaxy. No clue if they could work inter-galaxy.
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            #6
            Goa'uld long range communication devices are not secure, and the Goa'uld stayed in one galaxy so they wouldn't need to communicate from galaxy to galaxy. So i think the range is limited to one galaxy.

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              #7
              Originally posted by kymeric
              In Critical mass they showed a specific distance between the two galaxies wherefrom Daedalous could relay subspace signals to and from earth. How about dropping some sort of automated relay there? It cant be too hard or expensive to rig up an radio comparable to one of the ships with a appropriate powersource and have Daeddy drop it off the next time it flys by.

              So... stupid idea?
              Not at all. I came up with the same exact idea when I was watching the show myself. It makes perfect sense.

              Originally posted by ItsDan
              Nope, makes perfect sense. That's why they won't do it. The only thing I could figure would be perhaps the Wraith would notice all the communications going to the relay, and figure out which direction Earth is in.
              Dan is right, but there is a way around that. Simply place communications relays all around the Pegasus galaxy (the outside), at various distances. Then simply program the relays to use random routes around the Pegasus galaxy (all transmissions should be directed away from the Milky Way on the first transmission.), and once the initial signal reaches the relay outside the Pegasus galaxy, it can jump to alternate relays until it can be safely directed towards the Milky Way far, far beyond the Wraith's limited hyperdrive range. Even if the Wraith were to intercept a transmission, it would mislead them as to the true destination, as the transmission they would intercept would be directed away from the Milky Way to a point far outside Pegasus. Once there it would be rerouted to alternate relays (all far beyond the Pegasus galaxy itself), until it reaches all the way back around the other end of Pegasus and then on to Earth.

              It's all about mis-direction. It could work. That way, they wouldn't even need to use the Stargate for transmissions back and forth between Earth and Atlantis. They could communicate with Earth every day if they wanted. Go subspace transmitters..! woohoo..!
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                #8
                The wraith are smart, they would figure it out eventually.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AscendedWarrior
                  The wraith are smart, they would figure it out eventually.
                  Yes, they are very smart. But the fact remains that they would need to physically go to one of the Communications Relays to determine where the signal was being rerouted to. Keep in mind... the Dadaelus was nearly at the halfway point between Pegasus and the Milky Way, while acting as a relay between the two galaxies. With the Wraith's current hyperdrive capability, it would take hundreds of years to reach even a nearby Com-Relay. So all you have to do is set them far enough away from Pegasus, so that they circle the galaxy. Then you simply send the signal in a direction away from the Milky Way. You could choose the direction so it corresponds to the location of another galaxy. Once the signal reaches the Com-relay in the direction of the first transmission it could be rerouted to alternate Com-relays placed in positions far outside of Pegasus, and then re-transmitted back to the Milky Way. The Wraith ARE smart... but far from omnicient. It would work.
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                    #10
                    how about.... setting up a decoy transmitter which transmits highly encoded gibberish and make it "point" towards the Ori galaxy? lol if it works we get to watch Wraith Vs Ori-someone break out the pop corn! lol picture this Wraith-Prior encounter:

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                      #11
                      You can actually determin if something is gibberish or intelligent communication even if its encrypted. So the wraith who are more advanced then us would know that to, and not fall for the decoy.

                      But Seastallion you'r right. Why didn't i think of that.

                      Now send your idea to the writers It would be great if they did like you said.

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                        #12
                        Wait a minute...the wraith has been in Pegasus for millions and millions of year and managed to defeat the Ancients. You're telling me that in that time the wraith have never captured Ancient ships and instalations?

                        Surely after several million years I would imagine that the Wraith would have been able to reverse engineer the ancient hyperdrive technology and other technologies.
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                          #13
                          Quite a good idea indeed. Though I see two problems with it, the first being already mentioned, the Wraith. The second would be the Milkyway outpost was on a far distant MW planet that needed the Stargate. And if we setup relays in the MW, we'd have to worry beings here taking advantage of it.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by section31
                            Wait a minute...the wraith has been in Pegasus for millions and millions of year and managed to defeat the Ancients. You're telling me that in that time the wraith have never captured Ancient ships and instalations?

                            Surely after several million years I would imagine that the Wraith would have been able to reverse engineer the ancient hyperdrive technology and other technologies.
                            My guess, they probably never captured anything worth of value to retro engineer. And, they probably did not know humans existed outside Pegasus until the rival of the Atlantis expedition.

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                              #15
                              The wraith may discover the tranmissions and track them to the relay, and then the wraith destroy the Relay. They could use an Ancient Point defense sattlite as a relay, because it can defend itself.


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