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    Earth Dosent need a ZPM...

    Remember in the siege pt2 the connected a new type of generator to the Atlantis Chair and they were able to fire the drones, but it didnt last long. All they need to do is hook a few of those new generators to the Antartica Chair and they are sorted.

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    Those are very unstable, and breakdown fast. Possably could explode

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      #3
      Thats a good idea and I imagine the writers maybe saving that little did bit for a last minute solution to any impending doom by an ori armarda, now that its been tried and tested on Atlantis. There is the question tho of how many drones are actually left in Antarctica. Im surprised before the Ori threat arose and the impending doom on Atlantis that they didn't ship what they had there.

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        Jack built his own ZPM to dial the asgard home galaxy, he literally McGyvered it from stuff on base, so why cant they just examine what he built and reproduce it?

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          #5
          Originally posted by AKnightWhoSaysNi
          Jack built his own ZPM to dial the asgard home galaxy, he literally McGyvered it from stuff on base, so why cant they just examine what he built and reproduce it?
          They don't know how and maybe that isn't powerfull enough.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Ichigo
            Those are very unstable, and breakdown fast. Possably could explode
            Nothing has ever been said of that, they seem pretty stable to me. It was more along the lines of the Naquadah in 'Prometheus' that was originallt unstable. The generators were used in Atlantis for a whole year without any problems, they even rigged their remaining ones together without a hitch.

            Then came the MKII's. 6 times more powerful than their predecessors, powerful enough to use the chair, the one that was used didn't breakdown as McKay said that it ran out of power.

            So while the MKII could power the Antartic outpost in emergency, it ran out of power after having fired a few dozen drones, which btw didn't even make it into orbit. They were only flying around the city to target the incoming darts. Firing into orbit would have needed to use more power again. So the conclusion is simply, that it could be used in a dire emergency to defend against an incoming ship or two. However anything needing more than a few dozen drones to take it down, wouldn't be good enough. The genny would run out of power & the chair would go offline. So they would then be forced to swtich the genny in mid-battle. That could take precious seconds/minutes to initialise, which by then could see the outpost targeted & destroyed etc. So a ZPM is still a necessity, especially if the Lucian Alliance, rebel Jaffa or Ori ships came into this solar system & headed to Earth. There simply wouldn't be enough power to take them out & that combined with the lack of energy weapons on the Earth ships, would result in surrender or destruction.

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              #7
              Originally posted by AKnightWhoSaysNi
              Jack built his own ZPM to dial the asgard home galaxy, he literally McGyvered it from stuff on base, so why cant they just examine what he built and reproduce it?
              They have tried - the exact replica they built in Area 51 didnt work
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                #8
                a zpm is something so powerful that fully charged in can be used severl maby hundreds of times to dial to atlantis , while the thing that jack created , was depleted after only one use , i dont think it would be powerful enough to control the drones....

                and they are examining the thing jack created , but they have no clue to how it works.....

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AKnightWhoSaysNi
                  Jack built his own ZPM to dial the asgard home galaxy, he literally McGyvered it from stuff on base, so why cant they just examine what he built and reproduce it?
                  Would it be worth it? It lost power after one time use.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wraith_Hunter
                    Nothing has ever been said of that, they seem pretty stable to me. It was more along the lines of the Naquadah in 'Prometheus' that was originallt unstable. The generators were used in Atlantis for a whole year without any problems, they even rigged their remaining ones together without a hitch.

                    Then came the MKII's. 6 times more powerful than their predecessors, powerful enough to use the chair, the one that was used didn't breakdown as McKay said that it ran out of power.

                    So while the MKII could power the Antartic outpost in emergency, it ran out of power after having fired a few dozen drones, which btw didn't even make it into orbit. They were only flying around the city to target the incoming darts. Firing into orbit would have needed to use more power again. So the conclusion is simply, that it could be used in a dire emergency to defend against an incoming ship or two. However anything needing more than a few dozen drones to take it down, wouldn't be good enough. The genny would run out of power & the chair would go offline. So they would then be forced to swtich the genny in mid-battle. That could take precious seconds/minutes to initialise, which by then could see the outpost targeted & destroyed etc. So a ZPM is still a necessity, especially if the Lucian Alliance, rebel Jaffa or Ori ships came into this solar system & headed to Earth. There simply wouldn't be enough power to take them out & that combined with the lack of energy weapons on the Earth ships, would result in surrender or destruction.
                    Thats why i siad connect a few to the chair, 2 is better than 1, 3 better than 2 and so on, if there wat 10 connected to the chair at the same time it would have a good amount of power.

                    Where did you get the whole you need more power to get a drone into orbit, I never heard that before, all the power is going to controlling the drone it dosent make it fly or anything, so going into orbit dosent make a difference in the power being used, only the number of drones you are controlling and how long you are in the chair.

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                      #11
                      earth doesn't need battleships either

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by AKnightWhoSaysNi
                        Jack built his own ZPM to dial the asgard home galaxy, he literally McGyvered it from stuff on base, so why cant they just examine what he built and reproduce it?
                        We may not even have the working model anymore. They used it in Point of View (episode 306) to contact the Asgard in an alternate reality to defend earth from the Goa'uld seige. It was never revealed (to my knowledge) if we brought it back from that mission of not.

                        If we did bring it back though, it should work because the two Carter's were able to get it working again.


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                          #13
                          Unless it stopped working after that use as it did after the first use. It might need reconfiguring/rebuilding after every use.
                          But if the 2 Carters made it work a second time, then our Carter should be able to get it going again should we ever need it.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by HirogenGater
                            Would it be worth it? It lost power after one time use.
                            when a fleet of alien ships is knocking at your door, you will thank god for that one use.

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                              #15
                              If the GPM (Gyver-Point-Module) replica didn't work, Jack probably built some sort of fail safe into it to prevent the tech falling into the wrong hands. Afterall there're Trust agents everywhere...

                              The MK2 seems to work just fine until the Wraith soldiers blew them up. As for flying into orbit, I don't see how that would require more power. Unless you're saying the drones draw power directly from the chair, which is ridiculus. It's more likely that the drones require constant command signal from the chair to continue its operation or else it simply shuts down. Although that still seems primitive seeing that real life missiles don't even need such constant monitoring and can acquire targets on their own (after designation by the pilots of course)

                              In fact, there has been proof in Atlantis that drones can operate without the chair device, namely
                              Spoiler:
                              the episode where Mckay rigged a drone to fly straight up

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