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walter_MacChevron
January 15th, 2006, 09:31 PM
For some reason, a lot fo the episode titles that have been released have seemed very bland upon first glance. Now, I think some of them sound cool (like memento mori)...but I can't help to wonder the blandness of some of the episodes (quest, insider)...anybody else feel these are kinda bland episode titles compared to other really creative ones (chimera, death knell, orpheus)?

Agent_Dark
January 15th, 2006, 09:40 PM
Most of those are probably working titles ;) Something that they use while hammering out the script. They'll come up with the proper titles later.

GatetheWay
January 15th, 2006, 09:42 PM
You have to keep in mind that most of these are probably working titles and could change at any time.

Hatcheter
January 16th, 2006, 04:14 AM
You have to keep in mind that most of these are probably working titles and could change at any time.

That is true. "Quest" will probably be changed. "Insider" sounds just fine to me. I mean, that's no less creative a title than "Secrets" or "Family".

Over on Atlantis, I hope that "Delicious Fat Guy" makes the cut next season. :D

BigGator5
January 16th, 2006, 04:23 AM
Over on Atlantis, I hope that "Delicious Fat Guy" makes the cut next season. :D

That and "McKay's Sister" would be funny episode titles.

Really and truely, I think it's kind of silly complaining about episode titles. I think you guys are now reaching for something to complain about.

Johnquixote
January 16th, 2006, 07:45 AM
Actually I like the title Quest, hopefully sets the tone for a cool Arthurian Mythology delve.

The Signal
January 16th, 2006, 07:55 AM
Nothing is certain at this point, episode titles will be changing up until filming wraps late this year, dont forget that "Ripple Effect" was "Convergance" until just before it was filmed if memory serves.

Lt. Colonel Ryu Gaia
January 16th, 2006, 07:57 AM
And Collateral Damage was Remembrance of Things Past. Doesn't quite roll of the tongue as well.

You know, I wish that they would call "Insider" "Great Baals of Fire!" That would be the best episode title ever.

The Signal
January 16th, 2006, 08:00 AM
lol, gotta say "Delicious Fat Guy" and "Great Baals of fire" beat the hell out of any episode title I know of :P

NakedJehutyV2
January 16th, 2006, 12:45 PM
lol, gotta say "Delicious Fat Guy" and "Great Baals of fire" beat the hell out of any episode title I know of :P


pure ownage

Johnquixote
January 17th, 2006, 04:16 PM
My favorite episode title ever was from Farscape. It was a three parter, but Farscape gives its epics individual names between episodes, but with an overall epic name. Long story short, the episode's title was, "We're So Screwed- La Bomba".
Farscape had great titles for alot of their eps though, "Back and Back and Back to the Future" and "A Clockwork Nebari".

I like Memento Mori for next season's titles.

lsd
January 17th, 2006, 05:11 PM
My favorite episode title ever was from Farscape. It was a three parter, but Farscape gives its epics individual names between episodes, but with an overall epic name. Long story short, the episode's title was, "We're So Screwed- La Bomba".
Farscape had great titles for alot of their eps though, "Back and Back and Back to the Future" and "A Clockwork Nebari".

I like Memento Mori for next season's titles.

hahahaha i love that
i got to start watching that show
only seen 3 esp and the peace keeper wars thing....

the fifth man
January 17th, 2006, 07:14 PM
hahahaha i love that
i got to start watching that show
only seen 3 esp and the peace keeper wars thing....

Definitely watch it. If you liked the Peacekeeper Wars at all, you should really enjoy the show.:)

On topic though, I agree that these titles are probably just working titles. Tptb like to make little changes on the fly, so I'm sure some of the drab ones will be rethought at some point.

The Engineer
January 18th, 2006, 01:57 PM
The Quest maybe it would be better suited for a real quest like the quest for immortality wich is a constant in SG-1 like gods and stargates.

Memento Mori is a catchy title, in fact all latin titles (mottos) work very good. Or maybe its Memento M-Ori like another latin expression Deus Ex Machina (God from the machine) which in SG-1 became Ex Deus Machina (maybe Former God caught in Earth's machinations) - I see another Farscape influence (more in the line of Bone To Be Wild).

Morpheus makes me think of Sandman, not Matrix, hmmm intristing: dreams. Dreams of what? Stargate. Hope not in the line of Citizen Joe.

Uninvited? How about Gate Crashers - double meaning words are also met in Farscape titles (has anyone seen Nerve?).

Insider - I have no feelings towards this title, yet. Maybe its what it says, like Flesh and Blood(slaughter house, carnage, defeat.... anyone?).

Good titles enrich a show, they give the show some unique flavour, especially when no one used them before or they were used in very few occasions. I don't try to nitpick I like the episodes as long as they are good, and so far TPTB has proven themselves to choose the right ones (Children of the Gods, But For the Grace of God, Message in a Bottle, Fair Game, The Devil You Know, Divide and Conquer, 2010, Smoke and Mirrors, Memento, Full Circle, It's Good to be King, The Fourth Horseman, Ripple Effect...) - long list isn't it? I skipped some.;)

BTW I tried to keep myself as much as possible from being spoiled, so some assumptions of mine may be off, way off, maybe.:P

The Engineer
January 18th, 2006, 02:03 PM
What about "10 Little... Furlings" for the 200th episode?:p

Johnquixote
January 18th, 2006, 04:16 PM
Uninvited? How about Gate Crushers - double meaning words are also met in Farscape titles (has anyone seen Nerve?).

Loved that ep, possibly my favorite, its very hard to choose. But Nerve and The Hidden Memory were frelling great writing and acting.

Titles have me going on a rant, I loved Farscape titles, very creative.
Some other creative ones... A Prefect Murder, Die Me Dichotomy, Home on the Remains, Crackers Don't Matter(another of my favorite eps), Coup by Clam, Vitas Mortis, I Shrink Therefore I am, Crichton Kicks, Unrealized Reality, Scratch'n'Sniff, Green Eyed Monster, Rhapsody In Blue, Thank God It's Friday... Again, and That Old Black Magic!
Whew, still dealing with Farscape cancellation-seperation anxiety.

ToasterOnFire
January 18th, 2006, 08:12 PM
I never pay attention to episode titles, so I don't really care one way or the other. :D

Darkstar
January 19th, 2006, 04:13 AM
1. 200th episode: The hole into which the tauri spiral down: earth is pulled into a black hole under the attack of the Aschen.
2. Parting the red sea: sam must use her brain to free SG1 from a alien sheild prison in a base of transparent hallways whilst being hunted by a Wraithed Goa'uld!!!"...yikes!
3. The wheel in the gate goes round and round: earth is overun by incoming wormholes from refugees fleeing the Ori, the iris remains shut but sooner or later a discion has to be made to save lives and help them all!
4. Ba'alas new rims: SG1 investigates a series of gun attacks in the hood and discovers that an alien virus has infected the local Burger king thretening the street cred of both the ballas and george bush who has to explain the reason and look like an ass.....oh wait he does..oh wait its hayes is it not he's ok.
no but seriously i love to good titles of episodes

shockwave
January 19th, 2006, 08:23 AM
I know some titles too:

Inconsistant Moon
Legend
The Far Outsiders
Jackson
Man Of Piece
Old Friends
Earth
SG-16
Naked One
Ragnarok
Gene Wars
Faces Of The Past


plot summeries come later

Mattathias2.0
January 19th, 2006, 10:18 AM
Loved that ep, possibly my favorite, its very hard to choose. But Nerve and The Hidden Memory were frelling great writing and acting.

Titles have me going on a rant, I loved Farscape titles, very creative.
Some other creative ones... A Prefect Murder, Die Me Dichotomy, Home on the Remains, Crackers Don't Matter(another of my favorite eps), Coup by Clam, Vitas Mortis, I Shrink Therefore I am, Crichton Kicks, Unrealized Reality, Scratch'n'Sniff, Green Eyed Monster, Rhapsody In Blue, Thank God It's Friday... Again, and That Old Black Magic!
Whew, still dealing with Farscape cancellation-seperation anxiety.

Me too! I loved their titles, and everything else about it. Claudia Black made the show for me... Great, great actress. I love her accent, hair, and her emotion expressions on screen.

I only missed one thing in the entire Farscape universe: The Peacekeeper Wars. I will buy it on DVD eventually.

As far as SG-1 titles go for S9 & 10. I think Flesh And Blood expresses the most important aspect of that episode. I think Memento Mori can be easily confused with Season 6's Memento so I do not like that one. Morpheus sounds interesting but I have no idea what the plot is about so I have no opinion.

I think of S9 & 10 as a new series of SG1 so I don't mind the lack of imagination (if any) regarding titles up until the 12th Season (supposing they make it that far). SG1's earlier seasons didn't have great titles like Chimera, Death Knell, and Revelations.

There is alot of adjustments I have been making this year due to cast changes on Atlantis, cast changes on SG1, and such.

Mattathias

The Engineer
January 19th, 2006, 12:17 PM
I know some titles too:

Inconsistant Moon
Legend
The Far Outsiders
Jackson
Man Of Piece
Old Friends
Earth
SG-16
Naked One
Ragnarok
Gene Wars
Faces Of The Past


plot summeries come later

You know something we don't?!? :p

shockwave
January 20th, 2006, 02:45 AM
You know something we don't?!? :p
:p

Darkstar
January 20th, 2006, 04:02 AM
ok a few titles and summaries here for you all:

Hollow soul: When an incomming wormhole begins to leave all SGC presonel to act strangely, SG1 discovers that a most overlooked means of base invasion has been used and that the base is becomming home to a large group of alien invaders that seize the memories to appear human and learn more about day to day events as an alien way of gate travel most different than that of earth.

The tauri: SG1 embark on a mission to a planet inside the Ancient database, however when they arrive they are shocked to find that back at the SGC, When they awake from in the medical bay Gen landry informs them all that their mission they beleive was on earth was infact a new base that was used by earths newes enemy, their mission was to blend in and gather intel on them as they prepared to invade earth, SG1 are skeptical but the base seems to be authentic right down to the TV stations and people, Confined to the base Daniel jackson Finds that an artifact he acquired on a previous mission before they were supposed to go to the alien base mocked up as earth has gone, this artifact he did not log he took it himself because it was an ancient tablet surrounding acsenion and could be the key to destroying the Ori. Is it a dream or did their mission really happen, dangers lie ahead as a new threat to earth could wipe out the tauri.

just the 2 for now. :D

Nem2k
January 20th, 2006, 06:32 PM
have you noticed how there seem to be a lot of 2 parters with the same names now?
like, before thered be 2 parters with different names ie Jolinars Memories, The Devil You Know, Summit, Last Stand

now we have just Evolution part 1, part 2, 4th horsemen part 1, part 2, redemption part 1, part 2, new order part 1, part 2....you get the idea

i really wish theyd stop doing that cos it makes it hard to remember the eps, and plus its just a plain lack of creativity when they could come up with cool names for each part :(

The Engineer
January 21st, 2006, 07:02 AM
Hmm, interesting, what if instead of Evolution parts 1 and 2 we would've had Evolution and Evilution. Just playing with words here. But using names like (insert name) part 1 and 2 is TPTB's way of making a statement that the 2s are 2 faces of the same coin.

But as only for pt1&2 eps I doubt that we won't see different title names for two parters. Avalon and Origin is an exemple (ok, it's not a 2 parter, it's a 3 parter - rare flower in stargate universe, and it's Avalon pt 1 & 2, but we do have 2 different title names for linked eps). Half an exemple, but still an exemple.

The Engineer
January 23rd, 2006, 12:17 AM
I have a title for you (it's mine):

Far and Wide.



Who have seen Origin may understand what would be about.

ForeverSg1
January 23rd, 2006, 12:47 AM
Most of those are probably working titles ;) Something that they use while hammering out the script. They'll come up with the proper titles later.

Yeah, we know that the name for the episode Ripple Effect changed at least three times. First it was Convergence, then Echoes and last Ripple Effect. So all of these titles may change numerous times before we finally see them.

The Engineer
January 24th, 2006, 10:17 AM
But TPTB were pretty much sure about titles like The Fourth Horseman and Avalon (well, 2/3 of it). I'm sure that Flesh and Blood, Quest and Memento Mori will not be changed.

plaw15
January 25th, 2006, 08:42 PM
Do the titles affect the episode? I think not!!!

Hatcheter
January 25th, 2006, 10:01 PM
Do the titles affect the episode? I think not!!!

The titles are inspired by the episode.

Hatcheter
January 25th, 2006, 10:17 PM
have you noticed how there seem to be a lot of 2 parters with the same names now?
like, before thered be 2 parters with different names ie Jolinars Memories, The Devil You Know, Summit, Last Stand

'The Tok'ra, Parts 1 & 2'. That was in the second season. And technically, the pilot episode 'Children of the Gods' is part 1 and 2, what with it being a double length episode.


now we have just Evolution part 1, part 2, 4th horsemen part 1, part 2, redemption part 1, part 2, new order part 1, part 2....you get the ideaWe've also recently gotten 'Avalon, Parts 1 & 2', plus 'Origin' for part three. I'd say that last season's ep 'Threads' was a part three (and 3.5;)) to 'The Reckoning, Parts 1 & 2'. SGA's two mid-season two parters have had seperate titles, 'The Storm' and 'The Eye', 'The Lost Boys' and 'The Hive'.

Both conventions are in use, at the writers' discretion.


i really wish theyd stop doing that cos it makes it hard to remember the eps, and plus its just a plain lack of creativity when they could come up with cool names for each part :( Confusing? It simplifies things. Fewer episode titles to remember, and there's no confusion as to what episode finishes the story started by another one. As for the "lack of creativity", this is a television tradition that long predates Stargate, and will still be done long after the show ends its run.

The Engineer
January 26th, 2006, 02:07 AM
...correct!

SGFerrit
January 26th, 2006, 08:51 AM
'Memento mori is a Latin phrase that may be freely translated as "Remember that you are mortal," "Remember you will die," or "Remember your death". It names a genre of artistic creations that vary widely from one another, but which all share the same purpose, which is to remind people of their own mortality.' From wikipedia.

Hmmm.......

Mattathias2.0
January 26th, 2006, 09:43 AM
'Memento mori is a Latin phrase that may be freely translated as "Remember that you are mortal," "Remember you will die," or "Remember your death". It names a genre of artistic creations that vary widely from one another, but which all share the same purpose, which is to remind people of their own mortality.' From wikipedia.

Hmmm.......

I visit that site often in regards to SG-1. Hmmm... but the title still reminds me too much of Season 6's Memento.

Mattathias

The Engineer
January 26th, 2006, 03:08 PM
'Memento mori is a Latin phrase that may be freely translated as "Remember that you are mortal," "Remember you will die," or "Remember your death". It names a genre of artistic creations that vary widely from one another, but which all share the same purpose, which is to remind people of their own mortality.' From wikipedia.

Hmmm.......

Some of us already knew that.
But why do I get the feeling that the title could also be interpreted as Memento M-ori, and thus TPTB adding more nuances to the title? kind of: Remember the Ori, you are a mere mortal to them, they are your death, so remember you will be dead because of them. Or it is for all intents and porposes just aa catchy latin phrase (like all of them).
If this title would have come when the Goa'uld were the main enemies in the Stargate universe this question wouldn't have come to even if later the Ori would have happened.

The Engineer
February 3rd, 2006, 03:29 AM
I have an idea which I already told on a different thread. It's about the title of the 200th episode. I would call it:
Deja vu:
------part 1------
Let's say that the old SG-1 travels through the gate and finds a race of people who can predict the future not the exact facts only bits and pieces. And when SG-1 arrives this race has a glimpse of their future: their death because of some enemy that is or will be linked to the off-worlders. They do not know if the earthlings have met or not the doom bringers. They do not do if SG-1 is directly or not responsible for their doom. They do not know when and how. But they do know that the way they would handle the situation would save their future as a race. Inside the race 2 sides develope: one who thinks that telling nothing to the SG-1 and sent them back with a memory of a deserted place with no miltary interest whatsoever is the best course of action, the other one believes that it is better to tell them what they know. A decision is reached: the thinker side wins. But the other side sends someone to inform them the pieces they know: 2 stones, one silver device and a far away place, faith, hazard and a dangerous legacy with uninimaginable powers will bring destruction to them as long as they are not curious. The believer side implants this information as a program (not to act when the time will be right) in their subconscience to avoid deletion. SG-1 is sent back.
------part 2------
Nowadays multiple blackholes appear in the Milky Way Galaxy. Some of them are real beachheads, others are decoy beachheads. The Human, Asgard and FJN can't take chances and investigate all the forming blackholes some with warships but beacause the growing number of beachheads they start sending SG teams. One of which is SG-1. Now the Ori try to established a beachhed nearby the race with visions from the future. The people are surprised to see them, again. And some of the members start to have a sense of deja-vu. BTW the decoy beachheads develope quickly engulfing the suns faster for the fleet or the SG teams or the Tok'Ra to establish if they are natural occured or not and no supergate parts are sent and no Ori fleet arrives later. Because SG-1 came early they are surprised to see that the sun and the blackhole are 2 different bodies: a confirmed Ori incoming beachhead. But because of the fact that the allied fleet is widespread from this part of the Galaxy the unthinkable happens. All SG-1 is left to do is evacuate the people, but they are billions much like Earth, to many for a gate to handle. The Ori come with the fleet in their solar system, apparantely the Ori did not established their beachhead so near to these people for nothing. During these moments some of the people have new visions, but more abstract like the previous ones, the most powerfull of them is "DESPERATION" and "UNEVIOTABLE DEATH". As their last act of free people they tell SG-1 their first encounter and their reason behind all their actions. SG-1 realizes that beacause of Daniel subconscious info all of the Ori tactics so far were for one reason: to be able to predict the outcome of their tactics and choose the best ones, because though ascended beings the Ori aren't able to predict the future. This is confirmed by the fact that the Ori fleet doesn't fire upon the planet but sends Priors and troops. They don't want to kill a possible fortune teller and start beaming people on board of their vessles. A decision has to be made: a few billions or a galaxy. The Human fleet arrives. Half of it hides behind one of the planets moons and leaves a weapon much like the one in Trinity. The other half engages the Ori. And in the same time Mark IX are beamed and detonated in the planet's atmosphere. The Trinity weapon detonates. The fate of the remaining Human or Ori fleet remains unkown. The SG-1 is back safely on the Beta site with some of the evacuees. One of them is the one who implanted them their info. None of them knows what happened with their homeworld. Daniel is puzzled and asks how did they reach a conclusion in how to handle SG-1 back a few years (tell/not tell) finds out it was a flip of the coin as this is their custom.

Darkstar
March 6th, 2006, 01:39 PM
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PG15
March 6th, 2006, 05:23 PM
We've also recently gotten 'Avalon, Parts 1 & 2', plus 'Origin' for part three. I'd say that last season's ep 'Threads' was a part three (and 3.5;)) to 'The Reckoning, Parts 1 & 2'. SGA's two mid-season two parters have had seperate titles, 'The Storm' and 'The Eye', 'The Lost Boys' and 'The Hive'.



Yeah, but they also had The Siege Parts 1, 2, and 3. Sort of voids all that, don't you think? ;)

walter_MacChevron
March 29th, 2006, 02:39 PM
i really hope they think of a better title for the 200th episode than "200"....come on writers both seasons 7 and 8 had a lot of creative titles and some of season 9 too

jenks
March 29th, 2006, 02:50 PM
They're only titles, does it really matter?

RealmOfX
April 25th, 2006, 12:07 AM
I wish they'd change the Memento Mori title - cause every time I hear it I immediately think X-Files!!

LeeWilliamHutchison
April 25th, 2006, 04:09 AM
Hmm, interesting, what if instead of Evolution parts 1 and 2 we would've had Evolution and Evilution. Just playing with words here. But using names like (insert name) part 1 and 2 is TPTB's way of making a statement that the 2s are 2 faces of the same coin.

But as only for pt1&2 eps I doubt that we won't see different title names for two parters. Avalon and Origin is an exemple (ok, it's not a 2 parter, it's a 3 parter - rare flower in stargate universe, and it's Avalon pt 1 & 2, but we do have 2 different title names for linked eps). Half an exemple, but still an exemple.
I always liked the two parter season 8 finale of the x-files 'Essence' and then 'Existance'

MediaSavant
April 25th, 2006, 04:30 AM
My favorite episode title ever was from Farscape. It was a three parter, but Farscape gives its epics individual names between episodes, but with an overall epic name. Long story short, the episode's title was, "We're So Screwed- La Bomba".
Farscape had great titles for alot of their eps though, "Back and Back and Back to the Future" and "A Clockwork Nebari".

Farscape's titles were often creative. "Eat Me", "Crackers Don't Matter", "The Way We Weren't" and "Won't Get Fooled Again" were also good titles that come to mind. They tended to use pop culture references a lot. Stargate seems to go the "mythic" route with many of their titles.

Nefreyu
April 25th, 2006, 04:31 AM
why does the title of the damn show matter if it's good it's good right?

Deevil
April 25th, 2006, 06:14 PM
Farscape enjoyed making puns and references to other sci-fi. In essence it acted as a spoof (a highly entertaining and sometimes dramatic spoof, but a spoof all the same).

Stargate is rooted in mythology, so we will get more mythology and latin titles. And sometimes just simple one word titles. But Stargate generally dosn't go down the spoof route like Farscape and thus is less likely to have cutsie titles.

Dani347
April 25th, 2006, 06:21 PM
I wish they'd change the Memento Mori title - cause every time I hear it I immediately think X-Files!!


Good, it's not just me.

Hey, maybe someone on SG1 gets cancer.


why does the title of the damn show matter if it's good it's good right?

Speaking for myself, I get quite a bit of enjoyment out of a good title. I still love that Quantum Leap named it's first episode Genesis, instead of some generic The Pilot or The Beginning. So, for me, a title won't make a break an episode, but it's just a little thing that can either add to, take away from, or just be something that the episode itself overcomes.

the fifth man
April 25th, 2006, 09:56 PM
Personally, I don't really have an issue with the episode titles for season 10. At least, so far.

Pitry
April 26th, 2006, 06:31 AM
Farscape enjoyed making puns and references to other sci-fi. In essence it acted as a spoof (a highly entertaining and sometimes dramatic spoof, but a spoof all the same).

Stargate is rooted in mythology, so we will get more mythology and latin titles. And sometimes just simple one word titles. But Stargate generally dosn't go down the spoof route like Farscape and thus is less likely to have cutsie titles.

It's not "just" the mythology issue - although, it has a significant influence, of course. Often they're also trying to link certain elements between differnet episodes through the titles - for example, almost all of the Apophis episodes had Serpent in them - Within Serpent's Grasp, Serpent's Lair, Serpent's Song, Serpent's Venom... Or, a more recent example, Grace and Grace Under Pressure.

I guess they had their moments, and they had their, er, un-moments (?...) regarding episode titles. But I guess I would prefer an unimaginitive title such as "insiders" on the "cutsie" policy - I recently had a chance to look on all the Grey's Anatomy's titles, for example, and at some point I just wanted to scream at them, you know, titling episodes after songs isn't such a good idea when it's done for the 6th time or so.

Ah, but I do wish they'd stop with the part 1, part 2 business. I think it's more likely to be a differnet angle of differnet parts that sprouts a differnet title - for example, Jolinar's Memories did centre more round Jolinar, while in The Devil You Know the entire Apophis\ Sokar bit was the more central. Out of Mind was partially a clip show and centred round that, while Into the Fire dropped the entire memory thing and made "Out of Mind Part 2" an unfitting title. The "part 1 part 2" seem to me to be more of one story that just didn't have enough time to be told, part 2 directly continuing part 1.

The Ori
April 26th, 2006, 06:58 AM
I agree the titles sound a bit dry, but yeh they probably are working titles. But to be honest with you the story lines that we have heard from Gateworld so far, which probably are also working story lines, are also a bit bland.

If you have read about the Atlantis episode "Progeny", that title sounds wierd but the story line of that episode is by far the best I have heard in both the Shows for a very long time. What a way to introduce a new enemy. Man

The Engineer
April 26th, 2006, 01:21 PM
If you have read about the Atlantis episode "Progeny", that title sounds wierd but the story line of that episode is by far the best I have heard in both the Shows for a very long time. What a way to introduce a new enemy. Man
...please, say no more ;), I know what's next, don't spoil us (if that is possible:p).