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    The enemies lack of powerful weapon usage?

    Why is it that in stargate we see us use weapons like nuclear bombs and enhanced ones on ships etc but enemies rarely if ever seem to use them?

    Like the deadelus will use nuclear missiles on the wraith yet the wraith only seem to use their (maybe powerful yet weak in comparison) energy based projectile weapons on us and atlantis, they should have nuclear and even far higher powered weapons.

    It doesn't seem to make much sense if you think about it, in sg-1 we used a mk9 bomb which looked pretty damn powerful so why couldn't they use something of similar or far higher power to try and take down the atlantis shield?

    I know maybe they wanted to get atlantis and find a way to earth but we do rarely (if ever?) see nukes used by them in space battles and so on.

    #2
    Why would the wraith have developed WMDs? They've never really needed them and they do need live bodies afterwards.

    The Goa'uld make a lot less sense. It's been mentioned that they have 'destroyers' that wipe out whole worlds, leaving them contaminated and off limits for generations. It does seem a little odd that a planet as annoying as Earth has never found itself on the receiving end of anything like that.
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      #3
      I guess the reason many people as well as myself are dissapointed because of the lack of real energy based weapons. Weapons that cant run out of ammo.

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        #4
        Wraith may have a good reason for not using them but in cases like bombarding atlantis i would have thought they would be more than happy to take down the shields energy a bit faster, also now they know the deadalus can put up a reasonable fight they may want to get some pay back for the many ships it nuked.

        I really hope we get to see some nice big spaceship battles with the wraith and ori sometime.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Magneto
          Wraith may have a good reason for not using them but in cases like bombarding atlantis i would have thought they would be more than happy to take down the shields energy a bit faster, also now they know the deadalus can put up a reasonable fight they may want to get some pay back for the many ships it nuked.

          I really hope we get to see some nice big spaceship battles with the wraith and ori sometime.
          They only nuked three ships total 4 if you include sheps suicide run but that wont count if its for deddy. Who says that a nuke is more powerful than the wraith's primary energy weapons?

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            #6
            Me for a start,
            Spoiler:
            in the episode "The Hive" we see two hive ships shooting each other and they didn't blow up on the first shot
            , anyway lets be realistic, you know they're not going to be as powerfull as those enhanced nukes, not saying they're not powerful but its a projectile and not an explosion so its quite different.

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              #7
              Our powerful weapons have side effects of varying degrees. Nuclear weapons are what we use now because we don't have anything better. And our nukes are pretty worthless if they're not transported inside the ship. It has to have something to blow up after all.

              If we could wipe a large area out with no residual radiation we would, but what if you can't build a weapon of mass destruction that's safe to be around at all times, works well in space and has no lasting after effects without trading some of the power? Perhaps that's why the more advanced peeps we've come across use other methods.

              Also, most of the people we've come across who want us out of the way, usually want something from us that they can't get if they blow us up altogether so if they have something better they aren't using it on us. The wraith want to eat us, and the Goa'uld wanted to enslaves us. Mass destruction doesn't work out for them... ironically that does make us seem comparitively crazy, as we seem to be more than willing to blow the crap out of everything.

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                #8
                can u blame us???usualy its to defend ourselves!!!
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MarshAngel

                  Also, most of the people we've come across who want us out of the way, usually want something from us that they can't get if they blow us up altogether so if they have something better they aren't using it on us. The wraith want to eat us, and the Goa'uld wanted to enslaves us. Mass destruction doesn't work out for them... ironically that does make us seem comparitively crazy, as we seem to be more than willing to blow the crap out of everything.
                  That doesn't make any sense though. Like the OP stated, why would the Wraith want to stand around Atlantis (for instance) for who knows how long just blasting away with their regular energy weapons when they could just disable the shield around the city outright with more powerful weapons? There had to be a use for them. As for Goa'uld, it doesn't make any sense either. Why would they be so stupid as to try and enslave a planet that has successfully resisted them for a number of years? They would just nuke the planet and be done with it, why waste even more resources trying to take Earth. Oh wait, that's right, that's because they're the Goa'uld, science fiction's dumbest bad guys.
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                    #10
                    Well, they DO use more powerfull, on paper.
                    However the visual representation of them is massivly lacking.
                    And besides if they would actually use them and represent them correctly, the show would have ended a long time ago.

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                      #11
                      Question: The Wraith employs counter measures to prevent nukes from being beamed into their ships...why don't they just beam the 4 nukes 2m from their hull?
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                        #12
                        Because the most damage from a nuke is the shockwave in an atmosphere, which space has none The field that blocks the transporter might extend outside the hull too.

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                          #13
                          But surely a nuclear explosion would do a lot a damage atmosphere or not? Can't they beam a dozen monster nukes a few kilometers from the hull? Afterall they must pose a threat to the Waith, they destroyed those "nuclear stealth mines" in season 1 rather then just driving by and let the sheilds deal with it
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                            #14
                            Have you considered that nukes might be no good against shields. We haven't actually seen a nuke used against a shield or even a ships hull, it might have little or no effect.

                            Putting a nuke inside a shield (behind all its defenses, and armour) is going to do a lot of damage.

                            In Battlestar galatica, the nukes hit the hull and seem to have very little actual effect on it. If you didn't have to worry about the radioactive part, absorbing the nukes energy could be possible with the material that the ships are built with (i can't spell it, so i won't try)

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by section31
                              But surely a nuclear explosion would do a lot a damage atmosphere or not? Can't they beam a dozen monster nukes a few kilometers from the hull? Afterall they must pose a threat to the Waith, they destroyed those "nuclear stealth mines" in season 1 rather then just driving by and let the sheilds deal with it
                              The kinetic threat of a nuke - without an atmosphere to transmit the shockwave - is limited to a few bits of fast-moving, white-hot casing and expanding vapourised components, but there's not much of that and space is very big.

                              A starship's hull would have to be designed to keep out cosmic and solar radiation; it would be resistant, even if not impervious, to the radiation from a nuclear blast, especially one outside a shield. It was back in Season 2 that we saw how little damage even a naquadah-enhanced nuke could do against a pretty basic Goa'uld shield, let alone a post-Anubis shield.

                              So, a nuke would need hull contact, or near-contact, to be effective against a starship. Even if you did use nuclear weapons as your coup de grace, you'd need something else to strip the shields off first. There was some talk of a shield frequency modulator to let missiles bypass shields, although nothing ever seemed to come of it, but without that, you'd just be letting off very big fireworks.
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