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    Why does the 302 have 2 seats

    in intruder sheppard is able to fly and shoot on his own, so why does it have 2 seats, it is a part of the design that has always confused me

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    navigator

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      #3
      It' s not unheard of. I believe in most two seat fighters (and attack helicopters), either person can fly and shoot if need be. However each has their own specialty, generally one concentrates on flying the craft and (sometimes) firing weapons while the other keeps an eye on the radar and their course and the various systems of the craft and sometimes weapons (ground attack weapons for instance while the pilot just concentrates on flying and not getting shot since you're most vulnerable when lining up to drop a bomb/launch a missile).

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        #4
        Originally posted by Avatar28
        It' s not unheard of. I believe in most two seat fighters (and attack helicopters), either person can fly and shoot if need be. However each has their own specialty, generally one concentrates on flying the craft and (sometimes) firing weapons while the other keeps an eye on the radar and their course and the various systems of the craft and sometimes weapons (ground attack weapons for instance while the pilot just concentrates on flying and not getting shot since you're most vulnerable when lining up to drop a bomb/launch a missile).
        I thought the second seat was either the navigator, or the weapons guy. one guy flies, the other guy fires. It makes more sense for the second guy to be a weapons guy. With something as sophisticated as an F-302, a navigator seems rather obsolete.

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          #5
          Yeah, but what I'm saying is that there's generally some redundancy built in so that if, say, something happened to the pilot, the navigator could fly the plane in. Also that way they can spell each other on long flights and stuff.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Avatar28
            Also that way they can spell each other on long flights and stuff.
            Auto pilot works wonders, too. In a way, the two pilots would probably use auto-pilot to do the bulk of the flying until it came to the point where the two pilots had to execute their mission.

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              #7
              Whoever is in the back is known as the RIO or the Radar Intelligence Opperator. Essentially they control the Radar and from the looks of things they can also navigate as well which would make a lot of sense if the Hyperdrive worked. As for weapons the RIO has nothing to do with them it is always the Pilots call when to fire them and don't think he can fly either because of safety reasons, if things go wrong he's meant to just eject. If you ever watch the film Top Gun you'll get a fair idea of what I'm talking about.
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                #8
                Light entertainment and a guest star to kill off. Either that or the co-piolot who can take control of any function at the pilots time of choosing. Might be navigator though. The thing is, Intruder isnt the best example as McKay wasnt trained to fly the 302, episodes like Avalon and Origin as well as Homecoming are better examples to look at to find some answers
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                  #9
                  Remember when they flew the failed X-301? They might have taken out the second seat if that mission proved that they didn't need it, but that's not what happened. Also, if you have O'neil and Teal'c flying, with O'neil in the front, and he blanks out when excuting a high-G turn without inertial dampeners, then Teal'c can take over. But this brings up the question, is it possible for the inertial dampeners to fail in combat or are they an integral subsystem?
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                      lol

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                        #12
                        The person in the second seat can take over if the first person becomes incapacitated. And they might operate other systems like navigation.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by DragonGate
                          The person in the second seat can take over if the first person becomes incapacitated. And they might operate other systems like navigation.
                          The need for 2 pilots is there, but I don't think thats why. If one pilot is incapacitated from external damage, it's highly unlikely that the other one won't be also, especially in an F-320 in space combat.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by P-90_177
                            Whoever is in the back is known as the RIO or the Radar Intelligence Opperator. Essentially they control the Radar and from the looks of things they can also navigate as well which would make a lot of sense if the Hyperdrive worked. As for weapons the RIO has nothing to do with them it is always the Pilots call when to fire them and don't think he can fly either because of safety reasons, if things go wrong he's meant to just eject. If you ever watch the film Top Gun you'll get a fair idea of what I'm talking about.
                            The F15E Strike Eagle is probably our closest Air Force plane to the F302. The Weapon Systems Officer selects targets, monitors the plane and radar and such, helps keep an eye out visually as well. He also has a set of controls that he can use to guide the plane home if needed. I'd be surprised if the F302 isn't similar.

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                              #15
                              if you needed to do a tricky monover and do a tricky shot, one controling the flying one controling the weapons
                              but either can control either.

                              and also 2 head are better then one is very true.
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