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morjana
July 13th, 2004, 08:17 PM
From MSNBC:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5296598

FIRST -- the POLL -- (look on the right hand side of the page)

Live Vote:

Sci-fi show you're most excited about?

* 'The 4400'
* 'Stargate: Atlantis'
* 'Buffy the Animated Series'
* 'Doctor Who'
* 'The Man with the Screaming Brain'
* 'Earthsea'
* 'Farscape: Peacekeeper War'
* 'Justice League: Unlimited'
* 'Star Trek: Enterprise'
* None of the above, it's a sad time for sci-fi fans

(Currently, "Stargate Atlantis" is losing to "Farscape: Peacekeeper War")

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ENTERTAINMENT -- TV DRAMA

Beyond ‘Buffy’: State of sci-fi on TV
Fans look to stars, and new shows

COMMENTARY
By Christopher Bahn
MSNBC contributor

Updated: 4:39 p.m. ET July 12, 2004“Buffy” is long gone, and the “Angel” TV series just had a stake driven through it. “Farscape” was cancelled long ago, and the “Star Trek” franchise has for years been zooming at Warp Nine to the Suckitude Galaxy.

Is there anything out there on TV for a science-fiction fan to look forward to? You won’t find much of it on the big broadcast networks, unfortunately — only one new show focused on science fiction or fantastical themes is debuting on the older, larger broadcast networks, namely NBC’s “Revelations,” and it looks pretty terrible.

But that doesn’t mean there’s nothing on the radar that looks promising—far from it. Here’s a quick roundup of the shows that have us most intrigued, some nearly ready for broadcast, some just wisps of rumor.

‘Buffy the Animated Series’
STATUS: In development

Other rumored Buffy projects include a possible ‘Angel’ miniseries.

Though this reimagining of the Buffy live-action series was just about ready for production a couple of years ago, the Fox network didn’t pick it up then, and producer Jeph Loeb moved on to help create “Smallville” instead. But the word we hear now is that a pilot for an animated series is moving forward.

Actress Giselle Loren is voicing the Slayer instead of Sarah Michelle Gellar (too busy with those weighty “Scooby-Doo” films, we guess). But original actors Alyson Hannigan (Willow), Nicholas Brendon (Xander) and Anthony Stewart Head (Giles) will return, along with Buffy creator Joss Whedon behind the scenes.

Other rumored Buffy projects include a possible “Angel” miniseries. And although “Ripper,” the BBC “Buffy” spinoff series starring Giles, has been stalled for several years, Head recently said that the project is officially still alive. Whedon is also taking over creative control of Marvel Comics’ “Astonishing X-Men” line and currently filming "Serenity," a two-hour theatrical-movie spinoff of his cancelled “Firefly” TV series.

"The 4400"
STATUS: Premiered July 11 on USA Networks.

Once upon a time, the idea of a new USA series would make fans cringe, but the network has proven it can shepherd excellent work with the Tony Shalhoub detective series “Monk.” So we’re definitely giving this miniseries about the mysterious reappearance of 4,400 alien abductees a shot, especially since two of its executive producers, Rene Echevarria and Ira Steven Behr, worked on the best of the “Star Trek” bunch, “Deep Space Nine.” And it can’t hurt that one of our favorite character actors, Michael Moriarty, has a supporting role as returnee Orson Bailey.

"Doctor Who"
STATUS: Premiering on the BBC in 2005

I have a bit of a love-hate relationship with Britain’s venerable series about the time-traveling hero known only as The Doctor. Though a good portion of the episodes from its 1970s era are still among the best of any small-screen science fiction, it’s also true that later seasons were often of amazingly poor quality and that the show deserved cancellation years before its death in the late 1980s. But like the Doctor himself, the show has beaten death many times and returned in new visages, the most prominent up to now being the disappointing American version in 1996.

The Doctor’s longest-running and most popular villains, the Daleks, are officially not returning to the show.

At long last, the BBC has a new Time Lord at the controls of the TARDIS — Christopher Eccleston, last seen in the neo-zombie flick “28 Days Later.” I certainly hope the writing is better this time around, but it’s heartening to hear that a satiric edge is creeping in — one of the first shows will parody “Big Brother” by imprisoning historical figures like Shakespeare and Einstein in an alien-run takeoff on the reality series.

On the other hand, the latest news isn’t so good: The Doctor’s longest-running and most popular villains, the Daleks, are officially not returning to the show after negotiations broke down between the BBC and the estate of Terry Nation, the writer who invented the pepperpot-shaped cyborgs in the early 1960s.

"Stargate: Atlantis"
STATUS: Premieres July 16 on Sci-Fi Channel

The original series “Stargate SG-1” starring Richard Dean Anderson of “MacGyver” fame gets my vote (if not enthusiastically) as the most compelling sci-fi show currently on the air, and so this spinoff ought to be worth a look.

The cast of “Atlantis” is populated by relatively unknown, mostly Canadian actors. David Hewlett starred in the worthy but low-budget movie “Cube” before appearing in “Stargate” as Dr. Rodney McKay, the grouchy scientist he’ll play on “Atlantis”; you might (or might not) remember Joe Flanigan from his season-long guest shot on the sitcom “Sisters.” But “Star Trek” fans will want to tune in for Colm Meaney (who played Miles O’Brien on two “Trek” series), who will guest-star in a three-episode story arc late in the season, and “X-Files” vet Robert Patrick guests in the two-hour “Atlantis” premiere.

"The Man with the Screaming Brain"
STATUS: Due in 2005 on the Sci-Fi Channel

We don’t know much about this upcoming Sci-Fi-Channel movie beyond that the writer, director and star is Bruce Campbell (“The Evil Dead,” “Bubba Ho-Tep”), and that means this meal will be especially tasty for those who like extra cheese. Campbell plays a wealthy businessman out for revenge after a mad scientist replaces part of his brain with that of a Russian spy. It’s a story ripped from today’s headlines!

"Earthsea"
STATUS: Airing in December on the Sci-Fi Channel

There’s a great cast involved in this miniseries adaptation of Ursula K. LeGuin's classic “A Wizard Of Earthsea” novels — Isabella Rossellini, Danny Glover, and Kristin Kreuk of “Smallville.” Let’s just hope it’s better than other recent adaptations of kid-friendly SF like the execrable “A Wrinkle in Time.”

And speaking of book-to-TV adaptations, we’re also intrigued by another of the Sci-Fi Channel’s announced series, a four-hour mini based on Larry Niven’s “Ringworld.”

"Farscape: Peacekeeper War"
STATUS: Premieres in late 2004 on the Sci-Fi Channel.

Though it never got beyond a cult status even in the rarefied world of sci-fi fandom, the Jim Henson Company’s “Farscape” developed a reputation among its fans as a haven of intelligent storytelling. It returns from cancellation limbo briefly later this year for a four-hour miniseries that will pick up right after the final episode of the series’ original run.

"Justice League: Unlimited"
STATUS: Premieres July 31 on Cartoon Network

The basic concept of building a show around the most popular half-dozen of the DC Comics superhero stable hasn’t changed, but what’s different this year is a vastly increased number of guest shots from some of DC’s most interesting minor characters, including the faceless Question (voiced by Jeffrey Combs), magic-wielder Zatanna, and nuclear-powered Captain Atom.

"Star Trek: Enterprise"
STATUS: Fourth season premieres on UPN later this year

In the season-three cliffhanger, the Enterprise crew has apparently become trapped in an alternate-history timeline in which Nazis won World War II with help from aliens.

The "Star Trek" franchise has been pretty boring now for quite a while, and I’ve left this item for last because, frankly, I'm the most skeptical about its chances for a real creative rejuvenation. (I've been around this block with “Trek” before.)

But good things might come about when Manny Coto takes over as showrunner for “Enterrprise” next season — even if the show barely survived cancellation this year, moving to a new network that’s hedging its bets by only producing 12 new shows. Coto wrote several of the most interesting of the recent episodes, and taking full control means that at last somebody’s in charge over there who has some inkling of how to create interesting drama.

The next season could very well take the show in a completely new direction, especially considering that in the season-three cliffhanger, the Enterprise crew has apparently become trapped in an alternate-history timeline in which Nazis won World War II with help from aliens. That said, I'll cast off my skepticism and beam back over to the “Trek” universe right away if “Babylon 5” creator J. Michael Straczynski were given the green light on his proposal to remake the “Trek” universe from the ground up in a series of his own.

Christopher Bahn is a freelance writer in Minneapolis

© 2004 MSNBC Interactive


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Morjana

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Richard Dean Anderson Fans
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Elwe Singollo
July 14th, 2004, 01:30 AM
As much as i wanted to choose Atlantis, i chose my Buffy Animated, haha...

morjana
July 14th, 2004, 06:58 AM
As much as i wanted to choose Atlantis, i chose my Buffy Animated, haha...


ACK! That's blasphemy -- ZAT!

Consider yourself zatted (just once).

Keep it up fella, and we'll confiscate your secret decoder ring membership to the Stargate club!

Morjana

Elwe Singollo
July 14th, 2004, 08:17 AM
ACK! That's blasphemy -- ZAT!

Consider yourself zatted (just once).

Keep it up fella, and we'll confiscate your secret decoder ring membership to the Stargate club!

MorjanaWah :eek: I'm too big of a Buffy/Angel fan :) Haha...

Oh, look, my 'secret decoder ring membership' is walking away from me by itself, haha...

Calicto
July 14th, 2004, 11:51 AM
Buffy/Angel fan? Both are dead.

But stargate will live forever!!!! VOTE VOTE VOTE!

Elwe Singollo
July 14th, 2004, 11:52 AM
Nobody said i can't be a fan of a show that has ended ;)

Ugly Pig
July 14th, 2004, 02:08 PM
Nobody said i can't be a fan of a show that has ended ;)
You can't be a fan of a show that has ended! :p

Jafana
July 14th, 2004, 05:56 PM
Thats a bit rude...

I mean, if SG-1 ends at the end of this season, are you gonna stop being a fan? You'll just throw out all your dvd's and ignore the last eight years of obsession?

DownFallAngel
July 14th, 2004, 06:28 PM
I chose star-trek. We already know stargate sg1/a and farscpae are awesome. Lets give season 4 ST:E a chance...again.

They should have included BSG, the new one premiering in 01/05!

morjana
July 14th, 2004, 06:46 PM
Lets give season 4 ST:E a chance...again.



No....Enterprise is so darn...boring.

I'm sorry, but I've been a card carrying Trekkie since September 8, 1966.

I LOVED Star Trek, really likd TNG, LOVED DS9, somewhat liked Voyager until they introduced the Borg Bimbo -- and then that show just went downhill faster than a sled with waxed runners on a steep snow covered hill. I didn't think ANY show could be worse than Voyager -- and then Enterprise came along.

Morjana

Livi2Jack
July 14th, 2004, 06:56 PM
I so agree with you Morjana....Enterprise is awful. And the Borg Bimbo was a turning point for me too. They could have spray painted her costume on for the teenage boy set. Now they have Blalock in the same costuming. I could gag. At least Carter gets some respect and doesn't have to parade around nekked. At least not until Pete the Stalker went to bed.LMAO.

Chevron 1
July 14th, 2004, 07:35 PM
Last season on Enterprise, it was rather interesting with the Xindi Arc. It's not necessarily TNG great, but they are just getting their stuff together, and with Coto at the controls, it can only improve.

Unfortunately, I fear UPN's greediness yielded this searies too soon.

And if I had to vote, I would have to vote for Atlantis...although, I am trying to pick up the pieces for Farscape as well, and I haven't seen the Justice League in a while. (Where are the Joker eps? I have not seen one Justice League ep in about three years, since I have not had cable, and I want my Joker eps!)

DownFallAngel
July 15th, 2004, 05:39 AM
Season 3 was decent. The Voyager should have ended after like season 6, just with the season 7 ending, that would have made a good voyager.

Don't get me wrong, DS9 was the best out of all the trek series out there. But TNG Crew in First Contact was the best movie, and the best crew with the best ship.

Elwe Singollo
July 15th, 2004, 05:39 AM
Thats a bit rude...

I mean, if SG-1 ends at the end of this season, are you gonna stop being a fan? You'll just throw out all your dvd's and ignore the last eight years of obsession?Thank you. Haha...

Anthro Girl
July 15th, 2004, 06:27 AM
I voted for "Man with the Screaming Brain" just because it sounds cool. :) JUST KIDDING!! Voted for SGA, of course!

Farscape is still "winning" in the vote tally, but that hardly seems fair. SGA is a series. Farscape is a movie/mini event.

keshou
July 15th, 2004, 06:36 AM
I have to admit I voted for Farscape. I'm really looking forward to seeing John and Aeryn and the gang again. I also think the title of the mini-series (PeaceKeeper War) promises a great story.

Looking forward to seeing SG:Atlantis, it's just that I have no emotional investment in those characters yet.

The good thing is, this vote doesn't matter and we're getting both! Everyone wins.

Xevallah
July 26th, 2004, 09:24 AM
I do believe this poll has concluded and I do believe Farscape owned! :D

Dont feel bad, the scapers are just better chordinated then you Gaters. :P

Seriously....some of the dedication people have to that show scares me. :S

David
July 26th, 2004, 09:35 AM
And I thought the dedication some folks had to THIS one was scary! lol Wow.