The Sentinel (520) [Archive]

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April 27th, 2004, 10:51 PM

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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 520</FONT>
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SG-1 must turn to a pair of convicted criminals to save a world from annihilation by the Goa'uld.

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bcmilco

June 13th, 2004, 04:14 PM

Ramifications of previous NID actions. Interesting concept to play around with, but I think the exicution wasn't quite as strong as could have been because in the end the good guys come home alive and the bad guys are dead or beaten.

I think it could have been a lot more poignant had SG-1 not been able to save the people and they had been wiped out, or imprisoned.

Liebestraume

June 26th, 2004, 07:14 PM

The whole time while I was watching I expected the NID agents, or at least one of them, to turn on Sg-1, but they never did. I thought there was a certain degree of poignancy in their story of sacrifice and redemption.

KorbenDirewolf

June 27th, 2004, 06:14 PM

I did enjoy watching this for the most part, but I found the resolution to be a bit predictable.

Selmak

July 10th, 2004, 08:52 PM

I saw this episode but I don't remember anything, so it must have not been this good.

Selmak

July 15th, 2004, 07:46 PM

SG-1 needs to care less about other worlds and defend earth.

SeaBee

July 20th, 2004, 03:25 PM

I saw this episode but I don't remember anything, so it must have not been this good.

So with you on this one.

Lugal

July 20th, 2004, 06:17 PM

I saw this episode but I don't remember anything, so it must have not been this good.

I remember the leader of the planet was the Illinois Nazi from the "Blues Brothers". :)

Selmak

July 26th, 2004, 07:42 PM

Oh yeah... "I hate Illinois Nazis" :drives a car into them:

SeaBee

September 17th, 2004, 01:10 PM

OK. I went back and re-watched this one, and actually concentrated on it this time. This was better than I remembered, although I did find the planets leader a bit annoying. It was nice to see the "rogues" doing something useful for a change.

Major Fischer

September 17th, 2004, 01:14 PM

Great episode the following dialogue exchange:

"I'm glad to know that an archeologist is guarding our backs."
Examins bayonet, "Which end do the bullets go in?"

Uncle Dick

September 23rd, 2004, 09:40 PM

I liked the reference way back to Season 3, and I thought that inserting Kershaw and whats-his-name into the scenes from Shades of Gray was a nice touch. Much of the episode felt like a rehash of Thor's Chariot, unfortunately, without the unspeakably cool Asgard ship appearing at the end. I gotta saw though, Kershaw sure is a cutie. She looks a lot better here than as a gill-faced Spirit.

Lord Zedd

September 25th, 2004, 12:34 PM

I did enjoy watching this for the most part, but I found the resolution to be a bit predictable.
Yes it really was he.I knew it all a long.I thought the guy would make his move to escape but it's a good episode 'I am Svarog' hihihi that voice and then the old dude :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Ancient 1

November 2nd, 2004, 06:32 AM

I just watched this again, and was wondering why Teal'c didn't get killed when the Sentinel was reactivated.

Ancient 1

November 4th, 2004, 01:25 AM

I just watched this again, and was wondering why Teal'c didn't get killed when the Sentinel was reactivated.
What no help here?

Major Clanger

November 4th, 2004, 03:47 AM

SG-1 needs to care less about other worlds and defend earth.
That's a bit of an odd thing to say.

Firstly it was Earth people (even if they were a rogue team) who put the people in the situation where they were vulnerable to the Goa'uld. In that case, it is up to us to fix it.

Secondly, by getting the Sentinel to work, it was possible (and presumably still is) that we (ie the SGC) could develop a similar defence. That is one of the reasons why the SGC was so keen to right the wrong.

I love this ep (as I love any mention of the rogue teams) and like the way it was (a tad clumsily) tied into SoG. The most poignant moment for me was the little exchange between Jack and Daniel where Daniel expresses the hope that the two rogue team members got some time off their sentences. The look on his face when Jack says that no, actually, they got more really drives home the seriousness of the punishment for those guys.

I have some serious niggles with this ep (Grogan asleep in plain view, anyone?) but on the whole think it's one of the better efforts in any season.

jckfan55

November 4th, 2004, 04:25 PM

And of course the rogues redeemed themselves in the end by dying. No messy follow-up.
I hadn't thought of the T'ealc issue--maybe the Sentinel knows he's good now that the former SG guy (can't remember his name) is part of the machine. ?

Kliggins

November 4th, 2004, 09:09 PM

I have some serious niggles with this ep (Grogan asleep in plain view, anyone?) but on the whole think it's one of the better efforts in any season.

I quite agree with you Major. This is my favorite episode in season five. Definitely not perfect, but a great episode nonetheless.

Lord Zedd

November 5th, 2004, 01:20 AM

I quite agree with you Major. This is my favorite episode in season five. Definitely not perfect, but a great episode nonetheless.
I watched this episode again.Great episode but I agree with Kliggins,not perfect but it is not my favourite episode of season 5

Major Clanger

November 5th, 2004, 01:52 AM

I watched this episode again.Great episode but I agree with Kliggins,not perfect but it is not my favourite episode of season 5
so get on over to the relevant thread, then, and tell us what is!!
:D
(if you show me yours, I'll show you mine ;) )

Lord Zedd

November 5th, 2004, 09:58 AM

so get on over to the relevant thread, then, and tell us what is!!
:D
(if you show me yours, I'll show you mine ;) )
my favourite episode of Season 5 is 'summit'.I liked the episode so much.The first time I watched it I couldn't sit still.I was really excited.Lots of action and excitement.Ah I think I'm going to watch smmit again right now.:D:D

Major Clanger

November 5th, 2004, 10:44 AM

Mine is probably Enemies. Yep, Enemies. Really exciting ep with added bicep.

Lt. Elliot

November 5th, 2004, 05:00 PM

Revelations was my favorite of Season 5

lionel_pendergast_rocks

November 5th, 2004, 09:10 PM

i dont even get why they put revelations in season 5. or at least the very end of season 5. i mean, why not somewhere in the middle, and have the one with daniel ascending as the last ep. (and they couldve incorporated daniel into and changed the script)

Major Clanger

November 6th, 2004, 01:09 AM

sorry, I know I joined in... perhaps we can nudge this back on topic?

thanks

if you want to continue the discussion, how about popping over to the Favourite Season 5 Ep (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=239) poll and discussion

thanks

Major Clanger
GateWorld Moderator

Daniel's_twin

December 3rd, 2004, 05:18 PM

Personally, I thought that they coulda done just a little bit better. This is one of two shows of Stargate that to date, I had not seen, and I probably would've enjoyed it a little more if the Goa'uld had actually come down himself instead of just announcing himself through space. But it was still pretty good. :cool:

Hywel

March 18th, 2005, 10:01 AM

This is the only episode I hadn't seen, and I saw it for the first time on my DVD boxset. I just can't help but feel that I didn't miss much by not seeing it earlier.

Anyone heard the commentary from this episode? It's so funny! It's the Chevron Guy! Yay!

nimitz

June 2nd, 2005, 07:35 AM

jonno

June 2nd, 2005, 03:16 PM

Enjoyed the episode, but two little things at the ery end slightly irritated me.

1. How come Teal'c survived - usually they deal with that issue, but this time (because they didn't have time, probably). it was ignored.

2. I may be wrong, but, at the end, we see in the background Daniel going straight to Jack - but he was on the other side of the forcefield, that took at least an hour to deactivate previously.

They are only little things - but usually, there aren't any that i notice at all ... i've been watching too much stargate recently!

QuiGonJohn

June 7th, 2005, 04:34 AM

I liked this. I think after all the Jaffa were removed, the force field shut down. That is probably why Daniel could walk straight over.

Stricken

September 8th, 2005, 05:15 AM

Great Episode, saw SG-1 do what they do best kick the Goa'ulds backsides! lol!! anyways it was well written and the cast acted extremely well!

Perriman33

September 12th, 2005, 11:22 PM

Lets hope the rest of the people on this world weren't as far gone on dope as the leader. He seemed so far out it was unreal, originally I thought they've got some disease that makes you stupid, but then that girl came in and seemed quite normal. So they must vote the most stupid person into office just like earth! :rolleyes: The idea of the device was good but why do they only get rid of goa'uld invaders(except teal'c of course) and not other races?
The characters were all good though and it was cool to see daniel play a major part in winning.
We never got to see much of the people though or their culture but I suppose it's not easy to cram everything into a show. :)

Major Burns

September 15th, 2005, 06:33 AM

Has anyone else noticed how Grogan's rank changes in the episode as well. Before the title sequence he's a Sergeant on the radio and later on he's refered to as Lieutenant Grogan! But still a good episode. Season five will remain one of my favourite seasons, along with Seasons 7 and 8!

Metarock Sam

September 24th, 2005, 02:07 PM

This ep as an ok episode however it wasnt particularly one of my favourites. All it did was give redemption to two theives who should have knwon better than muck up a planets defentiary systems. However they do redeem themselves and it all turns out ok in the end.

walter_MacChevron

September 25th, 2005, 12:36 PM

I thought is was just blah

Beatrice Otter

September 29th, 2005, 11:28 PM

I thought is was just blah
Maybe. But it's got one of my all-time favorite lines!

From Daniel, after the guy prisoner complains about having a geeky archaeologist watching his back. Daniel slips his knife out of its sheath, holds it up, and asks the guy, "So which end do the bullets go in again?"

Daniel's_twin

September 30th, 2005, 03:56 PM

yeah, I notice that a lot of times some of Stargate's best one-liners come from "OK" episodes. :cool:

captain jake

April 8th, 2006, 01:45 PM

Maybe. But it's got one of my all-time favorite lines!

From Daniel, after the guy prisoner complains about having a geeky archaeologist watching his back. Daniel slips his knife out of its sheath, holds it up, and asks the guy, "So which end do the bullets go in again?"

HAHA ya I remember when he said that great great line!!:daniel:

Matt H

June 2nd, 2006, 02:38 PM

Maybe. But it's got one of my all-time favorite lines!

From Daniel, after the guy prisoner complains about having a geeky archaeologist watching his back. Daniel slips his knife out of its sheath, holds it up, and asks the guy, "So which end do the bullets go in again?"

That whole segment of the episode has some of my favorite lines in SG-1 as a whole. I'm watching it on Sci-Fi for the first time. It's OK, but only a little boring.

Matt H

harsiesis child

June 19th, 2006, 12:50 PM

Enjoyed the episode, but two little things at the ery end slightly irritated me.

1. How come Teal'c survived - usually they deal with that issue, but this time (because they didn't have time, probably). it was ignored.

Teal'c was inside the construction, there is no problem... ;)

I quite enjoyed this episode, but mainly for its end: the sentinel weapon is extremely powerful! :eek: and we don't know its creators!

StefanSGA

March 25th, 2007, 02:37 AM

I really loved that line from Jack in this ep:
"There's a ship in orbit, with really large speakers!". (We heard the Goa'uld system Lord announce his arrival with a very loud voice).

Trek_Girl42

March 30th, 2007, 02:00 PM

I really loved that line from Jack in this ep:
"There's a ship in orbit, with really large speakers!". (We heard the Goa'uld system Lord announce his arrival with a very loud voice).
LMAO.....That reminded me of the Vogon Constructor Fleet in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. :D

garhkal

March 30th, 2007, 10:54 PM

I wonder if that is a standard feature on Hataks...

Anubis345

April 1st, 2007, 11:36 AM

I really loved that line from Jack in this ep:
"There's a ship in orbit, with really large speakers!". (We heard the Goa'uld system Lord announce his arrival with a very loud voice).
:cameron: LOL

Team SG-1*save the show*

April 1st, 2007, 12:51 PM

I really loved that line from Jack in this ep:
"There's a ship in orbit, with really large speakers!". (We heard the Goa'uld system Lord announce his arrival with a very loud voice).

:lol: It is always jack who comes out with the funny lines. I love him :)

captain jake

July 4th, 2008, 05:48 AM

I found it interesting to see that when I went to look at the Gateworld episode guide there was nothing to read on "The Sentinel". It got a low rating but I found the machine working together with the body to be fascinating. It is my opinion that the sentinel looks into the mind of the human and determines who and where the targets are at.

I do have another question though. According to Marul the Latonans gave up technology in order to practice matters of the spirit and mind. If this was the case I can understand how they would be unable to fix or understand their technology. However, wouldn't they be spiritually and mentally savvy in general? For example if we look back on the episode "Spirits" we see that Tonane has no understanding of advanced technology. Though he understands the mind and has a certain amount of wisdom about him. The Latonans on the other hand are slightly idiotic, very nice people but more like children than people.

I don't know, that aspect of the episode never really made sense to me.

A Wraith Named Bob

August 8th, 2008, 08:53 PM

Watched this today and I liked it.

The Stig

May 2nd, 2009, 10:22 PM

I found this episode boring and therefore having nothing to say about it.

Ulkesh47

May 3rd, 2009, 12:59 PM

I found this episode boring and therefore having nothing to say about it.
I thought the first half of it was pretty darn good ("Yeah, which way do the bullets go in, again?"), but that the second half was boring.

I can't remember if Svarog's huge speaker moment was in the first or second half, but either way, it was cool.

But yeah, the second half dragged.

Cold Fuzz

December 3rd, 2009, 09:54 PM

Earlier tonight, SyFy replayed this episode for the first time in a very long time. Like "Proving Ground," it's not the best written episode but offers some fun nonetheless. It was good to see Lt. Grogan again as a follow-up from "Proving Ground." I was actually hoping that he would become a recurring secondary character but SG-1's stand-alone episode format pretty much precluded that.

Svarog's megaphone voice was hilarious, as was Henry Gibson's performance as the witless leader of the Latonans. Kershaw and Grieves atoning for their previous actions by effectively surrendering their lives was a good ending for both of their characters. It was a pity about Kershaw as I think she sincerely realized the wrongness of her previous actions and the NID's xenophobic stance.

Supreme Commander Sil

December 3rd, 2009, 11:51 PM

I was going to watch this today and I always love the "which end do the bullets go in again" bit :P. Quote it often :D!

Cold Fuzz

December 4th, 2009, 12:24 AM

I was going to watch this today and I always love the "which end do the bullets go in again" bit :P. Quote it often :D!

Definitely one of the highlights of the episode. :sheppard: Interesting that Daniel was holding a knife when he said that line. ;)

mrscopterdoc

March 20th, 2010, 03:56 PM

This episode was a tad slow....not in the top 15 of the season. :P

StargateWatcher

March 31st, 2010, 11:07 PM

could the sentinel people be the furlings because their tech is really advanced. The furlings could have given up tech and went on spiritually like the man said his people had done in sentinel.The sentinel is more advanced than any asgard weapon.

I was SO THINKIN THIS a while ago; the Furling seemed to like to make places "sanctuaries" fr people who like to pursue spiritual matters (i.e. ascension?)

the tech is ultra-advanced; think could be on the level of 4 G.R. tech; worx so differently from what we know of the other 3s' tech

StargateWatcher

March 31st, 2010, 11:09 PM

Maybe. But it's got one of my all-time favorite lines!

From Daniel, after the guy prisoner complains about having a geeky archaeologist watching his back. Daniel slips his knife out of its sheath, holds it up, and asks the guy, "So which end do the bullets go in again?"

great answer to throwback at an antagonist like that!

StargateWatcher

March 31st, 2010, 11:13 PM

Seaboe Muffinchucker

June 16th, 2010, 02:41 PM

What was it about seeing Jack tortured that made Grieves decide to accept Sam and whatsherface's theory of how the machine worked? This question has intrigued me since the first time I saw this episode. He's absolutely adamant, but when the jaffa bring Jack in, poke him with the fire stick a few times while Jack tells his crew to destroy the device, he's suddenly willing to give up his life to make the thing work.

Seaboe

maneth

October 3rd, 2010, 09:51 AM

The ending was quite interesting, but apart from that the ep was rather meh IMO. I just find it hard to believe that an entire civilization would degenerate like that without any apparent reason. Did everyone just want to engage in spiritual pursuits? Where did all the engineers who had built the civilization go?

LeftHandedGuitarist

December 8th, 2011, 02:58 PM

Weird episode, and not at all enjoyable. Henry Gibson as Marul is just terrible, looking like he has no idea what he's doing there and delivering ever line of dialogue poorly. He's supposed to be a leader of these people? No chance. O'Neill is also given a peculiar job here, like the writers didn't really know what to do with him.

It's a shame that the show didn't actually bring any of the covert NID/SGC characters from 'Shades of Grey' back, as there is a big disconnect by having the two unknowns in this episode. I can only imagine how much more powerful the episode would have been if it were Colonel Makepeace instead of Grieves.

The Sentinel itself is also really disappointing, some tacky little plastic light show hidden in a bunch of branches and twigs. I got the feeling that nobody was really putting any effort into this one.

Really enjoyed seeing Lt. Grogran back, though. For a while his presence was confusing me a bit before I realised he was the same character from 'Proving Ground', but then I also realised that he REALLY looks like a young Ben Browder in this episode!

RATING: 5.5 out of 10

Matt G

December 23rd, 2011, 02:09 PM

At some point I put a VHS into my Halls of Res machine...

1. Wasn't expecting them to follow up Shades of Grey but this worked well enough.

2. Grogan, wasn't expecting to see him again! At least he stayed alive! ;)

3. Liked the UAV missiles - unfortunately the Jaffa aren't 'complete' idiots.

4. Daniel's been hanging out with Sam quite a bit.

5. Knew the NID pair had killed the caretaker, just wasn't sure how.

Decent enough ep.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos

December 28th, 2011, 11:15 AM

I thought it was a boring episode. One of the worst from Season 5.

Tomorrow, Jonas Quinn makes his first appearance. Will Daniel Jackson die?

Jae'a

December 29th, 2011, 07:20 AM

^ I thought it was kind of 'meh' too, but I don't really like so say 'boring' when talking about Stargate... :P

My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/29040.html)

Krisz

December 29th, 2011, 06:44 PM

^ I thought it was kind of 'meh' too, but I don't really like so say 'boring' when talking about Stargate... :P

LOL! You feel like you're a bad fan if you do! :P

In this instance I'll use the word 'uninspired'. The idea of the melding of man and machine to create a powerful weapon for defence was a great idea, but the whole episode was poorly executed in every way it seemed.

When I first saw Henry Gibson in this I thought it was the weirdest bit of casting I'd seen in ages. I hadn't seen him on TV since 'Rowan & Martin's Laugh In' show in the late 60's, early 70's, so it was unexpected to say the least! He really didn't work in a more 'serious' role for me because of how I remembered him, as the man with the silly poems! :D

Lieutenant Sparrow

December 31st, 2011, 11:56 PM

Yeah not the best ep.

Best part of the ep being Daniels line.

Ah yeah what end do the bullets go in again :danielanime13:

jelgate

January 1st, 2012, 02:24 PM

I find this one hard to swallow. Yes I can understand the concept of a society degressing technologically but not to the degree the society in this episode did. To have such an advanced device and not even be able to fight back the Goa'uld is unconciveable to me. Besides that its not to bad. The way the Sentinel works is an interesting idea and if the Goa'uld knew the weakness that it requires a human life they probably would just send wave after wave of Jaffa after them. The NID getting redemption is an interesting idea but its a little too forced. It seems a little much for them being sorry about what they did.