Season 10 cast shake-up looming?

[NowIWillDestroyAbydos]

From Stargate-SG-1 Solutions:

http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=404

What do you guys think?

[Vandog]

Probably a TV Movie/Miniseries for Michael. He doesn't have any reason to leave SG-1 or Vancouver permenantaly.

[AGateFan]

Not looking good for S10.

Whereas I agree the MS thing isnt too much to get worked up over the AT thing is. Reasoning: S10 is expected (yes by me) to be heavey MS\CB so I would not expect him to leave when the spotlight will be on him. So I figure he is just going for a TV movie part. AT on the other hand, since S10 will be MS\CB is left out in the cold and doesnt really fit the vision of the SciFi channels version of SciFi.

But if MS did leave the show, the show would be near its end. Just as if AT or CJ left. This show will not survive in its current format without at least a couple more years with the last remaining 3 characters. If they want to phase them out they need to do gradualy it like they did RDA not just drop someone from full time to recurring or drop them from the show altogether.

On the other hand if MS, AT or CJ get something with better writing that will be longer lasting then more power to them.

[TechnoWraith]

Like the Season 9 cast shake-up wasn't enough?

It really depends on what the definition of "major TV role" is. Like some mentioned, Amanda Tapping filmed both "Proof Positive" and "Stargate" so it's likely that the same could be possible for Michael Shanks.

[Hyperspace]

I hope that AT stays on full on SG-1....I think she should be put in charge of SG-1! If they remove her that's a big reason why I'd stop watching.

[yowo]

I don’t understand what people mean when they say Stargate doesn’t have a place for AT. AT is Stargate. There is no Stargate without AT. There are still stories to tell, they Can write the stories if they want to. Sam is a multifaceted character. What they are saying doesn’t make sense. They can’t just cut her out or even cut her back. She is the heart of the show. In fact she gives the show its heart!:(

[yowo]

I hope that AT stays on full on SG-1....I think she should be put in charge of SG-1! If they remove her that's a big reason why I'd stop watching.
Your message came up while I was working on mine .I totally agree with you .I won’t watch without Amanda tapping on the show.

[Stevo]

and i have to agree with you on that :) after rda left i probably wont watch it if sam goes, weve seen that we can go a year without MS (not that i dont like him) and CJ's character has been declining with being on the jaffa council.

[JanusAncient]

I found that a tad confusing as well, not enough room for Carter, it's almost like saying there will not be a place for the Stargate. She's one of the main reasons, that Earth in the Stargate realm is where it is, you can't just remove her, because Vala Mal Doran needs room to what, breathe, stretch her arms, have a baby, what will she accomplish, that Carter has not, or cannot, seriously what?

[dmovies]

and i have to agree with you on that :) after rda left i probably wont watch it if sam goes, weve seen that we can go a year without MS (not that i dont like him) and CJ's character has been declining with being on the jaffa council.
Me too, if AT goes, I go. It was bad enough to lose RDA, but losing AT as a regular member of SG1 is just crazy.

[Madeleine]

I think there's a very good chance that Solutions is overestimating the magnitude of this TV role. A 'major' role could mean:

A regular role in a 22-ep show. Bye bye Dr Jackson.
A temporary role in, say, eps 5.12-5.16 of '24', or a patient-of-the-week in ER. Something nice to do in the hiatus, no need to leave SG-1.
The Voice-Over in a 12-part documentary. Something to spend a few days on in the hiatus.

Or it might not be as 'major' as any of those - remember, the info comes from the people who were making MS's apologies for missing their event, and they're hardly going to call it "a small-to-medium part which he really is interested in" when they can call it "a major part".

[Albion]

In addition, the producers of Stargate SG-1 may be hoping to add a new full-time cast member.

Tapping reportedly told fans that she spoke to SG-1 executive producer Robert Cooper after learning about the show's renewal, and about the fact that each of her co-stars had been approached about returning for Season Ten. Actress Claudia Black ("Vala Mal Doran") has also been approached about signing on, she said. Tapping asked if there was a problem, to which he replied, "No problem -- we just don't know what to do with Sam next season."

This (from Gateworld's front page - adding it in here, even though it's not about MS or the MS article, as the thread's about S10 cast changes) clearly implies that AT and Carter are being shoved out in favour of replacing Carter with Vala as the full time new team member. Now, I enjoy Vala, and would welcome her back as an irregular guest character, but if this little snippet turns out to be true, then that'll pretty much kill it for me as regards watching any more of Stargate. The jury for me is still out on S9 - and if they don't get back to showing us some real team in the second half I won't be watching any more anyway. But this would just kill my interest stone-dead.

As someone else said - all the changes we've suffered already aren't enough for them? They need to tear it apart even more? Have they never heard of 'if it ain't broke...' ?

Firstly, I wouldn't appreciate Carter being dumped in this way. She's been part of SG1 since the start and she's a vital part of the team. The thing which is currently bugging me the most about S9 is that since her return I've seen none of the team element that I was expecting and longing for by episode five. I want MORE of that back in the show if I'm going to keep watching. Not LESS!

Secondly, I just couldn't take Vala as a regular team member. As I say, I really like and enjoy the character. But she's a very, very strong presence and she did take over the first four episodes, eclipsing the other characters into the background, often. Even liking her as I do, I was relieved to see her go when she did. Like, I say, I thought then we'd get back to team. I think Vala is someone I could take very nicely in short doses, but who would very rapidly irritate me week by week.

Also more than a little irritated with this continuing theme from TPTB that if you watch SG1 you'll automatically watch Atlantis. I don't watch Atlantis - I gave up on it early in S1. So AT appearing on that show and not on SG1 isn't exactly a consolation prize for me, either.

All round, this is quite depressing news. If true, it seems even more clear to me that with RDA gone, TPTB seem hellbent on a mission to excise from the show not just Jack O'Neill, but every element that made the show special over eight years. :(

I think there's a very good chance that Solutions is overestimating the magnitude of this TV role. A 'major' role could mean:

Madelaine's right - I wouldn't make too much of this one, just yet. Major role could also mean a one off TV drama - those big 'events' US TV is so fond of. A role can be major without being longterm. It could also just be part of his agent's negotiating tactics for next season. ;) "Hey, you better start thinking about giving our boy a raise. Look - there are other people keen to get him. Think fast!" <g>



Albion :)

[KatG]

I seriously doubt MS is going to leave Stargate either. From all reports so far, it's going to be all about Daniel/Vala. Along with CB, he'll have center stage. Why would anyone leave in that situation.

I'm more concerned with the news coming out of Gabit. How can they not know what to do with Sam? She's been there for 9 years. She has experience. She's intellingent. Surely the writers can write a part for an intelligent, experienced, female soldier. Or do they lack the intelligence?

I just think it's really sad. AT stuck around when others didn't want to. She's been a team-player, she's been a positive voice and this is how she's rewarded. Guess there's no such thing as loyalty.

All I can say, is if AT goes, especially if she goes because she's nudged out by CB's character of Vala, then I most likely will go too.

[tony]

Hopefully people that work for stargate in the high spots will read this because they are obviously making a huge mistake... maybe they are thinking that after season 10 they plan to kill the show and want to keep the role of "Sam Carter" alive in the Atlantis show so they can still work with her? That’s a possibility. However if they are going to do that than DONT stick her out of it till the end of season 10 have her transferred to Atlantis or something toward the end of season 10 (since all I’m reading from the Actors, actresses thoughts on SG-1 seems to suggest they believe Season 10 will be the last season). I don’t mind Vala guest staring on a few SEASON 10 episodes I absolutely do not want her replacing SAM. SAM is the heart of the show.

[Gate Freak]

Okay, first thing i should say, i've been a Stargate fan right from the start. nearly a decade ago i sat and watched the first episode, Children of the Gods, when it premiered on Sky One here in the UK and from then on i've been hooked. Never missed a first run episode of either SG-1 or Atlantis right up to, and including, this week. Basically i'm a big fan!

Secondly, i love the original cast! RDA, Amanda, Michael, Chris and Don made the show the success it became and i have enjoyed every episode thery have been a part of. I missed Michael during the year he was not a part of the show, i missed Don last year and i'm missing RDA now that the new season has begun.

All that said, I LOVE THE CURRENT STARGATE!!!! I think Ben, Beau and Claudia have brought a freshness to a series that, after eight years, it really shouldn't have anymore. Not because i don't think the originals would have tried anymore, just simply because there are only so many stories you can tell about the same people or team.

This news about Amanda is currently uncertain at best. We have no idea about what is actually being said or considered behind the scenes with regard to the role Sam will play in the new seasons. However, if the writers are having a problem with what to do with the character, i really wouldn't be that surprised. After ten years Sam has done pretty much everything on the show and with Jack gone and Jacob dead her character arcs are going to be limited, especially if she stays in the position she currently has. Both Daniel and Teal'c have new responsibilities and storylines. Sam currently is there just for the technobabble. To me that is unfair and both Sam and Amanda deserve more.

If the producers think that they will have more for Sam to do as a part of both series then i say go for it! Amanda will still be employed for twenty episodes next year and she will have two great cast and crews to work with. Where is the bad? At a guess i would say that they are considering assigning Sam to the Daedalus, which would explain her becoming a cast member of both series. If not that then perhaps she will be called to Atlantis to help in a matter that only Carter can cope with. Basically, if this is the plan then to me it sounds like a positive thing and not the doom and gloom that people are making it sound to be.

Just give the changes a chance because Stargate, as a concept, has a lot of life in it yet!

[Coley]

Okay, first thing i should say, i've been a Stargate fan right from the start. nearly a decade ago i sat and watched the first episode, Children of the Gods, when it premiered on Sky One here in the UK and from then on i've been hooked. Never missed a first run episode of either SG-1 or Atlantis right up to, and including, this week. Basically i'm a big fan!

Secondly, i love the original cast! RDA, Amanda, Michael, Chris and Don made the show the success it became and i have enjoyed every episode thery have been a part of. I missed Michael during the year he was not a part of the show, i missed Don last year and i'm missing RDA now that the new season has begun.

All that said, I LOVE THE CURRENT STARGATE!!!! I think Ben, Beau and Claudia have brought a freshness to a series that, after eight years, it really shouldn't have anymore. Not because i don't think the originals would have tried anymore, just simply because there are only so many stories you can tell about the same people or team.

This news about Amanda is currently uncertain at best. We have no idea about what is actually being said or considered behind the scenes with regard to the role Sam will play in the new seasons. However, if the writers are having a problem with what to do with the character, i really wouldn't be that surprised. After ten years Sam has done pretty much everything on the show and with Jack gone and Jacob dead her character arcs are going to be limited, especially if she stays in the position she currently has. Both Daniel and Teal'c have new responsibilities and storylines. Sam currently is there just for the technobabble. To me that is unfair and both Sam and Amanda deserve more.

If the producers think that they will have more for Sam to do as a part of both series then i say go for it! Amanda will still be employed for twenty episodes next year and she will have two great cast and crews to work with. Where is the bad? At a guess i would say that they are considering assigning Sam to the Daedalus, which would explain her becoming a cast member of both series. If not that then perhaps she will be called to Atlantis to help in a matter that only Carter can cope with. Basically, if this is the plan then to me it sounds like a positive thing and not the doom and gloom that people are making it sound to be.

Just give the changes a chance because Stargate, as a concept, has a lot of life in it yet!

I Like your positivity but for me I don't like the changes that have occurred. I do not think the show has turned down another formula winning street and I'm afraid I'm not up for any more Vala. If we have to have new female characters lets have them fully clothed with a little less trite. I'm sure Claudia could bring a freshness to stargate with a much more applaudable character. If there is a new full time cast member I hope it is female and a great character - then I may take an interest again. The Daniel Vala show just didn't work for me - it is not what Stargate is about in my opinion. I want intelligent team adventures.

Being on Atlantis may be a good move for AT, only she can be the judge of that. I just think Stargate in now not Stargate. They should spin off again and create a new show. The people who want to watch it will and those that don't won't. I will be in the latter category I think

[yowo]

I don’t think anyone needs to be disrespectful of anyone (I have been reading that some fans are bashing people about all these rumors.) I think that would be the last thing that AT would want. Plus I think that you attract many more flies with honey than with vinegar as the old saying goes. I really think that the important thing is to get across to TPTB that we want Amanda to stay and have just as big a part as ever. I think if they can give CJ and MS new responsibilities that they can do that for Amanda also. It is TV and they can write any situation that they want. (What about Carters brother they can put him in danger. What about duplicate O’Neill, they could do a show with him coming to see Carter because he can’t live without her and he wants her to get the Asgard to clone her so he could have his own Carter). I don’t believe that every story has been told as far as Carter is concerned. I know she is good at techno babble but, she is much too good an actress to just do that. She is wonderfully funny and the best crier I have ever seen. Like one of the post said she stuck around through thick and thin and deserves respect. AT is why a lot of us watch Stargate. I’m glad that people are posting in favor of AT staying. In fact I hope they get so many post that they can’t do anything but beg her to stay!
It is insulting to woman for them to try to replace Carter with Vala. Carter is one of the only positive role models for woman on the show. She has been there for nine years, she CAN’T be replaced.
I watch the show because of AT. I won’t watch if she is gone and I know a lot of people that feel the same way.
Please PTB make the fans happy Keep Carter happy!

[TechnoWraith]

Having read the replies since my last post, all i'm going to say is this:

I'm not making any assumptions until i hear something official from a reliable source, such as GateWorld News or Sci-Fi.

[prion]

I think there's a very good chance that Solutions is overestimating the magnitude of this TV role. A 'major' role could mean:

A regular role in a 22-ep show. Bye bye Dr Jackson.
A temporary role in, say, eps 5.12-5.16 of '24', or a patient-of-the-week in ER. Something nice to do in the hiatus, no need to leave SG-1.
The Voice-Over in a 12-part documentary. Something to spend a few days on in the hiatus.

Or it might not be as 'major' as any of those - remember, the info comes from the people who were making MS's apologies for missing their event, and they're hardly going to call it "a small-to-medium part which he really is interested in" when they can call it "a major part".

In scooting back to the post, I believe it's the fan con who said 'major' and Solutions copied that word.

I'm sure though that 'major' does constitute an on-air role and not a voiceover role ;) But hey, I don't think any rational can fault any actor for bowing out of a convention for a paying job. After all, no roles, nothing to talk about at cons ;)

[Coley]

yowo, love your post but couldn't green

Communicating our support for Sam Carter would be a great way to show TPTB how strongly we feel. I will be doing this myself

However the contracts have been drawn up, so I'm afraid it is already a done deal. So I feel we will be just voicing our disaproval - still a worthy cause though

I will be more than happy to revel in my DVD seasons 1 to 8 as far as my Stargate fix goes and to follow Amanda if she decides to leave the show. She a class actor and better than a recurring character role in either show. She's been offered a lead part in a new canadian series and parts in 2 films, one a movie of the week and the other a film with Christan Slater playing his love interest.
If I was her I would be tempted to tell TPTB to shove it I'm afraid

[prion]

This news about Amanda is currently uncertain at best. We have no idea about what is actually being said or considered behind the scenes with regard to the role Sam will play in the new seasons. However, if the writers are having a problem with what to do with the character, i really wouldn't be that surprised. After ten years Sam has done pretty much everything on the show and with Jack gone and Jacob dead her character arcs are going to be limited, especially if she stays in the position she currently has. Both Daniel and Teal'c have new responsibilities and storylines. Sam currently is there just for the technobabble. To me that is unfair and both Sam and Amanda deserve more.

If the producers think that they will have more for Sam to do as a part of both series then i say go for it! Amanda will still be employed for twenty episodes next year and she will have two great cast and crews to work with. Where is the bad? At a guess i would say that they are considering assigning Sam to the Daedalus, which would explain her becoming a cast member of both series. If not that then perhaps she will be called to Atlantis to help in a matter that only Carter can cope with. Basically, if this is the plan then to me it sounds like a positive thing and not the doom and gloom that people are making it sound to be.


Right now as fans we're just stuck waiting on confirmation of this news, and it'll probably burn up fandom (if some of the more incidienary comments on JM's blog comments page are any indication).

The thing is that if you've got good writers, they can keept a series going on forever. If they've run out of idea with what to do with Sam, they definitely need to infuse some new writing blood on the staff. I do believe that the writers should stop sharing duty between SG1 and SGA (although keep each other informed with a simple flowchart of things like "oh by the way, we killed off so-and-so, so don't mention him in any more episodes). The two shows can be very independent. After all, if you work for a corporation, and you're in the NY office, you don't know what the folks in the LA office are doing unless they tell you and 99.9% of the time what they doesn't impact you.

But anyway, I'm not too thrilled with Sam popping up on Atlantis because as it is, the female characters on that show need their own development. Sam showing up just might detract from that. Unless of course, Sam is the only guest character and it would be interesting to see Sam and Elizabeth talk about ROdney. Now wouldn't that make him nervous? :p :D

In reading some fan comments, it was discouraging to see a bent toward 'must have Sam or else how else can we have Sam and Jack?' etc. A character should stand on their own and not just be part of a pair. I mean, I liked Daniel for himself, not just because he's friends with whoever, etc. However, that's not to say the character interaction isn't important. Without it, most of us might have left long ago (just blowing things up and having space battles gets boring quick).

I have no problem with RDA leaving; he wanted to. From all accord, MS wanted to leave after season 5 as well. I'd like to hear more info on AT and how the producers contacted her about season 10. There are so many variables involved in that business that I don't know what to think about why AT had to initiate a call (in this cellphone age, how can anybody not contact anyone who has a cell?)

I think the only way to really save Sam is to bolster her character: don't relegate her as 'somebody's girl" (who spends time pining about who to date/marry,etc) or a weak commander (her command skills need work, sorry to say) or just the technobabble geek (who's polite). I'd love to see her stand up more, really take charge for once (but not overkill, like a Rambolina).

[prion]

She's been offered a lead part in a new canadian series and parts in 2 films, one a movie of the week and the other a film with Christan Slater playing his love interest.
If I was her I would be tempted to tell TPTB to shove it I'm afraid

There are too many threads to dig through here. What films are those? Did she mention this at GABIT as I didn't see it on her site.

Thanks.

[Coley]

But anyway, I'm not too thrilled with Sam popping up on Atlantis because as it is, the female characters on that show need their own development. Sam showing up just might detract from that.

Good point


In reading some fan comments, it was discouraging to see a bent toward 'must have Sam or else how else can we have Sam and Jack?' etc. A character should stand on their own and not just be part of a pair. I mean, I liked Daniel for himself, not just because he's friends with whoever, etc. However, that's not to say the character interaction isn't important. Without it, most of us might have left long ago (just blowing things up and having space battles gets boring quick).

Yup I agree with that
I have no problem with RDA leaving; he wanted to. From all accord, MS wanted to leave after season 5 as well. I'd like to hear more info on AT and how the producers contacted her about season 10. There are so many variables involved in that business that I don't know what to think about why AT had to initiate a call (in this cellphone age, how can anybody not contact anyone who has a cell?)

No she went up to him and asked him if there was a problem (as she knew the other lead cast and cb had already been asked to return - she hadn't. That is when RC said there isn't a problem they just don't know what to do with Sam. Amanda certainly thought this was a problem (it is what she said at GABIT)

I think the only way to really save Sam is to bolster her character: don't relegate her as 'somebody's girl" (who spends time pining about who to date/marry,etc) or a weak commander (her command skills need work, sorry to say) or just the technobabble geek (who's polite). I'd love to see her stand up more, really take charge for once (but not overkill, like a Rambolina).

The chance is gone. I stupidly assumed a over a year ago she would become the permanent lead of SG1 and they would get back to some great team eps and have another great actor pick up another great character in the team. Then BB got signed!!!

[Coley]

There are too many threads to dig through here. What films are those? Did she mention this at GABIT as I didn't see it on her site.

Thanks.

she mentioned them at GABIT. I can't remember the names of the films. She is filming them when she gets back from england.
In the other film she plays sort of a bumbling detective who keeps messing up cases and has sortof a chip on her shoulder because of it. Amanda looked quite excited at the prospect of these film roles. The one with Christian Slater I think was a small role. It is mainly about 4 male friends who get together for a reunion.

[flippy18]

The Christian Slater film is called 'The Foursome'....but it's about golf ;)

[binkpmmc]

yowo, love your post but couldn't green

Communicating our support for Sam Carter would be a great way to show TPTB how strongly we feel. I will be doing this myself

However the contracts have been drawn up, so I'm afraid it is already a done deal. So I feel we will be just voicing our disaproval - still a worthy cause though

I will be more than happy to revel in my DVD seasons 1 to 8 as far as my Stargate fix goes and to follow Amanda if she decides to leave the show. She a class actor and better than a recurring character role in either show. She's been offered a lead part in a new canadian series and parts in 2 films, one a movie of the week and the other a film with Christan Slater playing his love interest.
If I was her I would be tempted to tell TPTB to shove it I'm afraid

Good post and yup - so would I. In a way I hope she does - it sounds like she has a few very good opportunities right now and Stargate, IMO, is dying a slow death. She should get as far away from it as she can so she is not dragged down with it.

[Coley]

The Christian Slater film is called 'The Foursome'....but it's about golf ;)

Yes! Thanks Flippy. I should have remembered that from the laughs the title got when she named it!!

[The Signal]

I cant see them leaving, this is all just worry that will end up as nothing. I wasnt here back then, but I have been told that this sort of thing has cropped up for the last 3 years, cast leaving, lessening parts, it all ends well. Its a year off yet, just dont jump to conclusions, we have mostly gossip and 2nd/3rd person info, nothing concrete yet.

[SierraGulf1]

I agree, nothing is set in stone. But if it's true...

I'm going to say right here that I am no fan of Robert C. Cooper, despite how much I enjoyed early Season 9. Well, I like his work, but not his attitude (now I in know way no for sure what goes on, so if I have been misinformed, my sincerest apologies to anyone offended).

When Michael Shanks wasn't happy because his character was being underused in Season 5, I read that he mentioned it, and Rob Cooper didn't care all that much. Michael Shanks ended up leaving. I know he loved the idea of Sam/Jack ship (which I'm not too keen on) and to me it's seeming like he doesn't believe Sam can exist without some man, as has been said. What makes me more suspicious is that it was him who mentioned that they can find a use for Sam.

Amanda Tapping is a very caring, loyal woman and if she is truly being treated like so, I'm hoping she tells whoever treats her as such where to shove their 20 episodes, regardless of which series they're on.

I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions, but that's how I feel.

[solar wind]

What do they mean "we don't know what to do with her"? I don't know what they could possibly do without her! Verry sad to lose Jack (though I hold nothing against RDA, I'm glad he did what he had to do) but when that happened I thought at least we still have sg-1. I for one loved seeing Sam command sg-1, the few short times they let us see it. She was a great leader and they still had the chemistry even without Jack.
Though I don't mind seeing Vala in an episode here and there, I can't stand the thought of Vala "replacing" the Sam character.
I hope it doesn't turn out as bad as it sounds.

[The Signal]

I agree, nothing is set in stone. But if it's true...

I'm going to say right here that I am no fan of Robert C. Cooper, despite how much I enjoyed early Season 9. Well, I like his work, but not his attitude (now I in know way no for sure what goes on, so if I have been misinformed, my sincerest apologies to anyone offended).

When Michael Shanks wasn't happy because his character was being underused in Season 5, I read that he mentioned it, and Rob Cooper didn't care all that much. Michael Shanks ended up leaving. I know he loved the idea of Sam/Jack ship (which I'm not too keen on) and to me it's seeming like he doesn't believe Sam can exist without some man, as has been said. What makes me more suspicious is that it was him who mentioned that they can find a use for Sam.

Amanda Tapping is a very caring, loyal woman and if she is truly being treated like so, I'm hoping she tells whoever treats her as such where to shove their 20 episodes, regardless of which series they're on.

I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions, but that's how I feel.


Dont appologise, I think you are right on the money. The treatment of MS during season 5 was out of order, and now he is doing the same to AT, it might not be set in stone but he is putting the show in jeapordy and he has no right to ruin a good formula. Claudia Black is good as a temp but with AT she isnt so appealing as a character. If AT goes MS may go as well (some rumer anbout another show) then SG-1 is Beau Bridges(WTF? bring back RDA) Claudia Black (shes no replacement for Sam and no good without MS) Ben Browder (good but might get boring) and Chris Judge(Who is being underused now). I meant dont jump to conclusions but something needs to be said, the show could be ruined by the end of Season 10 [mod snip].

[SG1TOM]

This whole conversation exists because this is what ALWAYS happens to actors when their hit show goes into it's unpteenth season. Actors want top dollar, and producers/writers/directors want to keep things fresh by jumbling the cast. But this then terminates the majic that the cast had together. This is another reason why top notch actors like RDA leave the show regardless of the offer. SG1 in it's current configuration is in it's twilight years. Expect another season, maybe 2. The interest and the money will shift to SGA. My advice to the original remaining cast members is to heavily explore other opportuniities, while they're still on a hit show.

HOWEVER. If TPTB have any business sense, they'd be writing a feature length movie with the ORIGINAL cast members. They'd better do it sooner rather than later, because the magic only lasts so long.

[SlightlyManiacalGater]

I'm hoping we won't have Sam Carter on either SG1 *or* Atlantis. If this were happening right after SG1's 2nd or 3rd season I'd feel differently, but I have had so much National Treasure and her feeeelings shoved down my throat that I'll be glad if AT doesn't come back to SG1. There's no role left there for her except to pine after whathisname. She turned from a great character in the early seasons to a self centered fool in the later seasons. At one point I wanted the character to be returned to her roots, but now I'm beyond caring. And I absolutely don't want her on Atlantis. Rodney's the resident science god over there, and I want it left that way.

[TracysTrails]

I've been watching SG-1 since season three was first aired, and I've grown tired of Carter. Her character was changed so much in order to promote the Sam and Jack ship that to many of us she's no longer a viable character. Especially now that Jack is gone. I can well imagine the writers sitting there, scratching their heads and trying to figure out how to fix this now, and figure out what to DO with Sam now. Who IS she now, anyway? I watch the show each week and own all the box sets and I'm not even sure who she is now. All I know is that I'm tired of her.

If she gets twenty episodes guaranteed, then how is that a bad thing for AT? Does it matter which show she'll be on? I really don't want to see Sam go to Atlantis, but I'd rather be bored with Atlantis than be bored with SG-1.

For me, the feelings of dislike for Sam don't have anything to do with the new cast members or season nine changes. The feelings have to do with the changes I've seen in Carter since season four, and even if BC and BB weren't in the cast now I'd still say that my fingers were crossed that AT takes takes that other series.

And, to go one point further, I feel that AT is a good actress, and has done all she can with Sam over the last nine years. Maybe creatively and professionally it would be a good thing for her to take the other offer. She can try something different. If the SG-1 is cancelled after season ten, then she won't have passed up something that could be fun and sustain her professionally for the next period of time.

[PG15]

Let's wait and see.

[fan457]

This is great news for AT and MS. They are smart to be looking at other projects. If I heard from the producers that they had no idea what to do with my character (Sam Carter) I would run for the hills, or at least as far from SG-1 as possible. It's pretty obvious the writers have no idea what to do with Sam Carter this season. It can only get much, much worse! I just wish we in the US could see AT's new series.

[david2708]

Bottom line: if CB is joining the cast full time, there is really no room for AT. The actress, I doubt would settle for being relegated and the producers would do anything to save a dollar and would be happy for her to go.
My money's on Tapping going for good if Black is in permantly as a fulltime cast member.

[the fifth man]

Like some have said before already, I'm going to wait for some official confirmation, one way or the other, on what's going to happen with AT. I know concerns have been raised in previous seasons only to turn out to be nothing at all in the end. Which I'm hoping is the case with this. Personally, I like CB and the character she plays. But I just don't see giving up AT to gain her. As for the buzz surrounding MS, I'm not too concerned. If CB does join the cast next season, SG-1 will focus on the two of them somewhat. I don't see any reason he would want to leave the show. So all in all, I'm just going to forget I read about this until I hear some sort of official word. But if you are reading this ptb, don't do something stupid and let AT go. You would piss way too many of us off.

[Gate Freak]

I suppose what this all boils down to, and forgive me for stating the obvious here, is whether you are a fan of Stargate as a concept or of the cast of the show.

If you are only watching the show for Daniel or Sam, then obviously their departures will have a very negative effect on your enjoyment of Stargate. That is fair enough. I personally am a fan of the show overall and believe that it has grown far larger than any one of the single characters. If Sam or Daniel aren't a part of the show next year then i will miss them but as long as there exists good actors and characters to tell the Stargate story around then i'm okay with that.

Now, as a seperate matter, i would hope that any cast changes that do occur are done in a way that is fair to all involved. I sincerely hope that whatever is decided about Amanda's character for the new seasons is to everyone's benefit, especially Amanda. She has been a part of the show from the start and deserves to be given the respect she has earned due to that.

I should point out that the producers of Stargate did go out of their way and wrote the entire first quarter of this current season of SG-1 to benefit Amanda due to her pregnancy. They could just as easily have made Sam a recurring character this year and brought Vala in fulltime. Instead they chose to keep Amanda and Sam as regulars. This shows a commitment to the character and actress, in my opinion.

My point being that, given the fact they had a lot more reason to remove Sam from the regular cast last year, then if they are deciding to do something different with her this year it must be for a very good reason. One that may help to improve the show (or both shows) overall.

[1DanielForMe]

Having read the replies since my last post, all i'm going to say is this:

I'm not making any assumptions until i hear something official from a reliable source, such as GateWorld News or Sci-Fi.I agree. I was getting worked up about the whole "Michael won't be part of season 10" thing, but I realised I'm most likely panicking for no reason, and I remembered why I'm not big on rumours.:rolleyes:

[KatG]

I suppose what this all boils down to, and forgive me for stating the obvious here, is whether you are a fan of Stargate as a concept or of the cast of the show.

If you are only watching the show for Daniel or Sam, then obviously their departures will have a very negative effect on your enjoyment of Stargate. That is fair enough. I personally am a fan of the show overall and believe that it has grown far larger than any one of the single characters.

I'm one of those who stuck with Stargate (the show) through various cast changes. When MS left and CN replaced him, I was willing to give it a chance and I still enjoyed the show. When CN was replaced with MS I still stayed and enjoyed the show. When I heard that RDA really wanted to quit and spend time with his daughter, I didn't have a problem as I felt the others could carry the show as long as there were good stories. And when I found out that RDA was really leaving, and that AT was not going to be in the first few episodes of S9, although I was a little leery I was still willing to give it chance.

So I tuned in to the first episode and instead of thinking it was the best Stargate I'd ever seen or the absolute worst Stargate I'd ever seen, I felt nothing. Still, it was the first of a two-parter, so I figured the second part would be better and it was, but I still just wasn't getting that thrill. While the next 3 episode improved it still didn't "grab" me the way it used to.

And to me it doesn't really matter what TPTB say, Mitchell has too many Crichton mannerisms and I just can't separate the two characters. I do agree that CB is nothing like Aeryn Sun, (I liked Aeryn Sun btw), but I don't like the Vala character. She just doesn't appeal to me in any way.

Maybe if they had done a spin-off, instead of trying to pass off S9 as SG-1 I might have felt differently. After all, I really like Atlantis and it doesn't have Jack, Daniel, Teal'c or Sam (at least not yet). If S9 had instead been S1 of "Stargate Command" then I wouldn't expect to see SG-1 and would have been more open to the possibilities of what TPTB were doing.

Like Cam said in Avalon 1 - he wanted to be a part of SG-1 (Sam, Daniel and Teal'c) not two letters and a number. That's what I want too, because without Sam, Daniel and Teal'c, that's exactly what SG-1 is imo.

[NowIWillDestroyAbydos]

I'm one of those who stuck with Stargate (the show) through various cast changes. When MS left and CN replaced him, I was willing to give it a chance and I still enjoyed the show. When CN was replaced with MS I still stayed and enjoyed the show. When I heard that RDA really wanted to quit and spend time with his daughter, I didn't have a problem as I felt the others could carry the show as long as there were good stories. And when I found out that RDA was really leaving, and that AT was not going to be in the first few episodes of S9, although I was a little leery I was still willing to give it chance.
Yeah, I think the series got better in Season 6 (when MS came back it got even better). But now with RDA gone, the episode are a little more duller, but The Fourth Horseman Part 1 gave me some hope that rest of the season may get a little less duller.

[Gate Freak]

Maybe if they had done a spin-off, instead of trying to pass off S9 as SG-1 I might have felt differently. After all, I really like Atlantis and it doesn't have Jack, Daniel, Teal'c or Sam (at least not yet). If S9 had instead been S1 of "Stargate Command" then I wouldn't expect to see SG-1 and would have been more open to the possibilities of what TPTB were doing.

Like Cam said in Avalon 1 - he wanted to be a part of SG-1 (Sam, Daniel and Teal'c) not two letters and a number. That's what I want too, because without Sam, Daniel and Teal'c, that's exactly what SG-1 is imo.

I actually was hoping that they would do exactly that! My feeling was, and still is to be truthful, that season 9 of SG-1 would have been better served as a transition period into a new show. Have this current year be an introduction to the new characters and concepts and then rather than renew Stargate SG-1 for a tenth season simply end it on a high and spinoff into a third series, maybe featuring Cam, Vala, Daniel and some new characters and centre it around the whole Camelot mythology that we are currently entering into. Maybe even call it Stargate: Camelot or Stargate: Avalon. Something along those lines anyway.

Maybe that is still a possibility for after Stargate season 10, i suppose that would depend on how the next year goes.

[The Signal]

Season 9 as a spin off would have been better, I never actually thought of it that way.

SG1 Cast: Amanda Tapping, Chris Judge, Michael Shanks and Corin Nemec (I really saw the two as completely different characters, so why get rid of him?)

SG Command Cast: Ben Browder, Claudia Black "Someone new" and "Someone else new"

With both having a new General. That would have been much better than it is now, and it is still fantastic as it is!

[SierraGulf1]

I know something is preventing Corin Nemec from returning. I've heard various reasons ranging from "busy with current projects" to "feuding with the producers." Whatever it is, I think if they're hurting for someone interesting, it would be good to bring back a former character who was underdeveloped. He wasn't around long enough to screw with his character (like poor Carter) and he'd be a nice familiar face. If Amanda were only transfering between shows and not permanent, I'd rather see Corin Nemec as a regular than CB. Cameron Mitchell, Jonas Quinn, Teal'c, and Daniel Jackson with well-written stories would be SG-1 enough for me. Not to mention some Jonas/Vala interactions would be very interesting.

Of course, like I said, I don't know if they even can bring Jonas back, and I know it's been said by a producer that they won't. But one can hope none the less.

EDIT: And now that we know Amanda is definitely willing to do 20 episodes, why bother having her go between Atlantis and SG-1? Jack and Pete are gone, and with no one to pine over we can get back to the old Carter that we enjoy.

[BlueCat...Gater]

I know something is preventing Corin Nemec from returning. I've heard various reasons ranging from "busy with current projects" to "feuding with the producers." Whatever it is, I think if they're hurting for someone interesting, it would be good to bring back a former character who was underdeveloped. He wasn't around long enough to screw with his character (like poor Carter) and he'd be a nice familiar face. If Amanda were only transfering between shows and not permanent, I'd rather see Corin Nemec as a regular than CB. Cameron Mitchell, Jonas Quinn, Teal'c, and Daniel Jackson with well-written stories would be SG-1 enough for me. Not to mention some Jonas/Vala interactions would be very interesting.

Of course, like I said, I don't know if they even can bring Jonas back, and I know it's been said by a producer that they won't. But one can hope none the less.

EDIT: And now that we know Amanda is definitely willing to do 20 episodes, why bother having her go between Atlantis and SG-1? Jack and Pete are gone, and with no one to pine over we can get back to the old Carter that we enjoy.

I couldn't agree more. Especially about Jonas. He seemed to get tossed aside once MS decided to come back on board.

[prion]

I know something is preventing Corin Nemec from returning. I've heard various reasons ranging from "busy with current projects" to "feuding with the producers." Whatever it is, I think if they're hurting for someone interesting, it would be good to bring back a former character who was underdeveloped. He wasn't around long enough to screw with his character (like poor Carter) and he'd be a nice familiar face. If Amanda were only transfering between shows and not permanent, I'd rather see Corin Nemec as a regular than CB. Cameron Mitchell, Jonas Quinn, Teal'c, and Daniel Jackson with well-written stories would be SG-1 enough for me. Not to mention some Jonas/Vala interactions would be very interesting.


"Busy with current projects" means that Corin is working. No actor hangs around hoping to get a role when something is in front of them, not unless they're financially secure or Tom Cruise... The 'feuding' thing is, like lot sof other comments, a rumor that probably started from one fan saying it and then it sprouted legs. However, if there are politics involved, we'll never know. Not our business.

The show is going to go with who sells the best, and Claudia Black is, at least to sci-fi fans, a more recognizable face than Corin Nemec (due to her years on Farscape) and quite honestly, they may be looking for a female character, not male. Yes, they cast by sex, height, hair color, you name it.

[the fifth man]

At least it's nice to know now that it appears we will still be having AT on Stargate. That something got posted to her website reassuring fans goes a long way to me. It just wouldn't be the same without her.

[SGVern]

Carter will be returning for S10, Vala is too hooked on our good doctor not to be part of the team and T...., I hate to say this, but with Gerak out of the picture as leader of the FJN, T might split his time. He has an allegiance to both Earth and the FJN, so expect CJ to be there 'til the end of the run. Speaking of hiatus, the actors can do pretty much what they want. If MS decides to take off, DJ might go Ancient on us again. However, it's up to the actors. AT is rooted to Stargate (thank God), for 20 eps. in S10.

OT: Over the last few years, I've grown to admire AT... And no, it's not because of her looks! We share two things in common: My birthday is the day before hers (I'm 11 years younger), and we're twinned (We both have an identical brother)

[Gate Freak]

Nice to hear that Amanda will be back and that she is happy with the situation, regardless of how it works out. Personally, i'm still hoping there is at least some transition for her character between SG-1 and Atlantis but 20 episodes split between the two or all on SG-1, either way works for me!

[prion]

Amanda will be back once the contracts are signed.... ditto with Michael Shanks.... so we have to wait till then.

[the fifth man]

.... so we have to wait till then.

I'm waiting!!!:D

[Hatcheter]

I'm waiting!!!:D

Maybe you should try holding your breath. :D ;) Not that that ever worked for me as a child, but you never know.

[Deevil]

Wow, I wonder when conclusion jumping will become a new sport. First, no one has signed any contracts yet, so whether or not AT will be appearing on both shows is still being hashed out, and to what extent (this could simply be she guest stars on one Atlantis episode) so there is no cause for panic.

I wouldn't count anyone out of the new season, I believe they will all sign on, no props whatsoever.

Next, yes they are trying to figure out a new direction for Sam, also not a bad thing. Them saying that they don't know what they are going to do with her acknowledges that they want to keep her and they want to make sure that they keep her to use her character as well as they can. This is great, it means Sam is going to once again have a large undertaking in the episodes. She is going to have more depth again, why are people panicking. TPTB admitting a fault in a charater or its development is not a death sentence, quite the oppisate actually.

Add to that if Amanda is happy with the situation (as she appears to be) why are people unhappy on her behalf? Me don't get it.

Seriously, I think the show has great potental. I love the new blood, I think it is working well as they have a new enemy aswell. I don't think it should have been another show, because it is still centrally about SG-1, so SG-1 fits (and lets face it, shows have continued with the same name when the show was named after an actor that leaves ie: Valerie never chnaged it's name when Valerie Harper was fired). I just think people have to give it a chance... And believe that the actors wouldn't sign on if there was nothing more to be told.

[prion]

Well, Michael will be busy at least this week as he landed a role on the popular CSI :Miami series. Yes! :) Talk about great exposure. It's one of the top 10 shows on US TV, so this will give him greater exposure to non-scifi fans.

From the wolf 10 message board (it's STILl not on the main page)

"To everyone attending SG-10, I want to extend my sincere apology that I have at the eleventh hour to cancel my appearance. This is not something I do lightly but it is unavoidable. I have spend most of today/night with Bryan on the phone trying to work out a plan but we have failed to find a way round my work commitment. After having to cancel the Expo last week I was so sure that there would not be a problem with SG-10.

I will be guest starring on the US hit series CSI Miami and was only booked yesterday and am required on set Friday.

Not the news I wanted you to hear but I do wish you all the best at the event and will be phoning into SG-10 to talk to you all on Saturday."

[the fifth man]

Yeah, I'm happy for Shanks. Hope the ep on CSI goes good. Then he can get his butt back here where he belongs.:D

[LuvsJonasQuinn]

I know something is preventing Corin Nemec from returning. I've heard various reasons ranging from "busy with current projects" to "feuding with the producers." Whatever it is, I think if they're hurting for someone interesting, it would be good to bring back a former character who was underdeveloped. He wasn't around long enough to screw with his character (like poor Carter) and he'd be a nice familiar face. If Amanda were only transfering between shows and not permanent, I'd rather see Corin Nemec as a regular than CB. Cameron Mitchell, Jonas Quinn, Teal'c, and Daniel Jackson with well-written stories would be SG-1 enough for me. Not to mention some Jonas/Vala interactions would be very interesting.

Of course, like I said, I don't know if they even can bring Jonas back, and I know it's been said by a producer that they won't. But one can hope none the less.

EDIT: And now that we know Amanda is definitely willing to do 20 episodes, why bother having her go between Atlantis and SG-1? Jack and Pete are gone, and with no one to pine over we can get back to the old Carter that we enjoy.
I'm glad Amanda is willing to do 20 episodes. While I like Claudia, I'd much rather see Sam than Vala. And I'd love for them to bring Corin back as Jonas and put him on the team.