vBulletin 3.5 and AJAX

[Greg]

The Gateworld Forums have now been upgraded to vBulletin 3.5, which uses AJAX for inline quick replies and edits, making it easier and faster to post/edit replies - and you dont need to refresh!

For AJAX to work for you, you will need a compatible browser, such as

- Firefox 1.0.7, or Firefox 1.5 Beta 1
- Opera 8.0.1 or later

Internet Explorer does NOT support AJAX.

Enjoy!

[SilverRider]

Ah bummer I use IE :(

But loving the new upgrade :D

[walterIsTheMan]

not liking it so much, i use MSN explorer which i guess it isnt compatible with:(

[mazzmatazz]

I can see you're probably still working on tweaking it right now, but I just thought I'd say I noticed the columns are in the wrong order (ie under the wrong headings) in the forums. The last post box is two columns to the left, shifting the views and replies out to the wrong place.

[Greg]

Just because you use IE, it doesnt mean you CANT use Quickreply. It just means you cant use the AJAX functions (i.e. when you post a quickreply, the page will refresh).

Avatars have been fixed.

[Greg]

I can see you're probably still working on tweaking it right now, but I just thought I'd say I noticed the columns are in the wrong order (ie under the wrong headings) in the forums. The last post box is two columns to the left, shifting the views and replies out to the wrong place.

Thats a feature, not a bug :)

[bioevilfan]

And all threads say they are locked with the stargate pic

[GateWorld]

We'll continue to fix template issues in the hours and days (hopefully hours!) ahead. Thanks!

Darren

[SlytherinGal]

Woot! guess i kinda got worried there for nothing...kinda jumped the gun...i was getting worried there for a sec..i was unable to post using post reply and everything. I downloaded firefox just to see what it is like...i use it at school...and it has no pop-ups :D

[Greg]

And all threads say they are locked with the stargate pic

If you arent logged in, the forums will display with the Iris closed.

[SlytherinGal]

this is cool...i am now trying it with my other browser not firefox and it seems to be working fine :D

hey greg, any reason why my last link in my siggy isn't popping up like it used to

[purpletoo1]

The User names have changed colors and they are very light now and difficult to see. Will this get fixed? thanks, Purple

[GateWorld]

Yep, that's high on the fix list.

I know that everyone who is on right now has a list of fixes for us. Please give Greg some time to nail down the obvious ones -- then we'll ask for any others people have spotted that we may have missed.

Thanks!

Darren

[bioevilfan]

Yeah the white is very hard to read.

[SlytherinGal]

yes, white bad..i don't mind the gray color but the white..get rid of

i have to hand it you mods and creators, you guys do a great job at tackling gw problems :D

[Bagpuss]

Looks cool to me,so far .Thanks,Darren & Greg .Nice upgrade !:)

[Stricken]

Why the change again after the last one?

Also im noticing a distinct lack of "My Controls" at the top under the menus!!

[SlytherinGal]

look over on the left side sgc, it has been moved :D

[StevetheWraith!]

Why the change again after the last one?

Also im noticing a distinct lack of "My Controls" at the top under the menus!!


The My Controls seem to now be on he far left of the menu! The menu bar seems to be reorganized with the My controls preceding the FAQ... :)

I seem to be having problems though with some stuff like smilies and the quick reply button using Safari 2 on OS X. I hope that these bugs will be squashed!

[Stricken]

So it is thanks Steve and Potions Mistress!!!!

I have IE but i sem to be able to use the new functions described?


The In thread Edit is great!!! I am wirting this now after posting!! Whooo

[SlytherinGal]

yea, altho some bugs need to be worked out...like colors, links, etc. but i think it will work out fine until new software becomes available.

[Stricken]

Page Numbers being one of them!!! there white, like the user names, but the User Names i can live with as its easy to tell who everone is anyway by their sig/avatar

[CKO]

white is very bad...Hey Greg/ or Darren is there any reason why i have an error msg that says on my page 'Done, but with errors on page.'

[Arlessiar]

I'm wondering: Is it a bug or a feature that the threads which had new posts since my last visit and were shown under "my controls" now vanish completely from that list (and are not only untagged) once I visited them again, and can only be seen again if I click on "view all s. threads"?

And I also hope that the white color for the links or page numbers will be changed again, but I understand that this isn't top priority! :)

I think it's funny that you can see who is viewing a thread now! :)

Bye, A.

[Bagpuss]

I know Darren and Greg said to wait till they get round to asking us,but I notice that the "Pm this user" feature isn't currently available.

(We can still send e-mails,but if users have that option switched off,then there's no way to contact each other off-forum presently.)

Sorry,D & G if this is actually part of the new upgraded forum,or if it's because I use IE ! :)

[Jynjyr]

this is cool...i am now trying it with my other browser not firefox and it seems to be working fine :D

hey greg, any reason why my last link in my siggy isn't popping up like it used to
The link is there. It's just white right now. :( I've got the same thing going on. I've a link to Kym's bio at the bottom of mine.

I'm liking the new formatting controls. Even with IE.

[Carbito]

Apart from a few colour compadibility issues it looks nice.

Also, what version of vBulletin was GateWorld running previously?

[Bagpuss]

Version 3.0.9 :)

[Stricken]

Loving all the changes again :D:D

[SilverRider]

Loving all the changes again :D:D

I second to that :D :D

[ChopinGal]

Hi Guys ... thanks for all your hard work! I'm kinda PC challenged and have IE, but so far, so good ... glad someone told me where to find My Controls! :D

Just adding to the comments above ... the new color of the links in posts does seem a bit whitewashed and harder to read. You may want to revisit that and fine tune a bit more.

Good luck! ;)

CG

[Erised]

Hehe everything's white!
Making forum look ugly too.

[ShadowMaat]

If you arent logged in, the forums will display with the Iris closed.
I'm getting the closed iris icon on the episode sub-forums of the various section. They're still post-able, though, it's just the icon that hiccupped.

Also, if there's any chance to get "My Controls" put back on the right-hand side of the screen... *wistful sigh*

OK, got the AJAX thing, now. Wasn't understanding the description. ;)

[StevetheWraith!]

Hi guys. Congratulations on the upgrade because the new features look sweet indeed. Once the "bugs" , like the white texts, get resolved then this will really improve Gateworld :)

[Egeria]

Nice work on the upgrade.:)

Not being picky but I'm noticing that some threads aren't showing up in 'New Posts' and 'My Controls'. I know you're working out the bugs, but I just thought I'd post this one.

[NowIWillDestroyAbydos]

Hey where are the extra post icons, you know the SGA ones (to add to the one that there already).

[Purpleyin]

look over on the left side sgc, it has been moved :D
Now it's next to the FAQ... ;) Is that a ploy to get more people to notice (and hopefully read it too!)...? :D

[MartoufMarty]

... Not compatible with IE?

Damnit...

Wait a minute...

Testing testing...

Everything seems so weird...

[Major Tyler]

All the hyperlinks are white so I can barely (if at all) read them. :S

[blingaway]

So what kind of kickback did y'all get for encouraging us all to switch browsers? :P Just kidding of course, everything looks great! :)

edit to add: I can't submit from the preview. The submit under the text box works though.

[greytop]

edit to add: I can't submit from the preview. The submit under the text box works though.Same here.

[Stricken]

Everything works fine for me, if not better!!

[Seshat]

Liking it so far...I was thrown by the menu bar order being changed as well :o . I see that the Members List has been disabled for the moment...hope that comes back.

[Arlessiar]

I see that the Members List has been disabled for the moment...hope that comes back. Were you able to view it before? I got the "disabled" message since I joined GW in June. :(

Bye, A.

[Jeffer]

are there still bugs to be worked out because some of the lettering and wording dosen't apper to be there but when i scroll over it its there and yes i am useing Firefox

[CatGoddess]

Same here. Hyperlinks are white. I've also noticed that all posts since around 9/24 are being flagged as new posts for me, even though I was logged in yesterday. I'm using Firefox 1.0.7.

Thanks for all the hard work. :)

[Seshat]

Were you able to view it before? I got the "disabled" message since I joined GW in June. :(
I know it gets disabled from time to time, but I believe that I've accessed it since June. I'm assuming that since it's still in the menu bar we will get this feature back eventually. *keeping fingers crossed* :)

[Greg]

The members list has always been disabled. Some more bugs/issues fixed, some more to go :)

[Jeffer]

cool Lets here it for the Mods and all there great work

[CKO]

lookin' good so far... course those buggys are bound to pop up from time to time. (at least our names arent a blindin' white now)

[blingaway]

Is there a way to get back to the thread listing from the bottom of the page? There's one at the top of the page, but I typically read from top to bottom and it's a pain to have to scroll all the way back up to get the link to thread listing. Or am I missing something as usual?

[Wass]

Could upgrades great job guys keep up the good work.

[Wass]

Wow that was fast cool

[Seshat]

The members list has always been disabled. Some more bugs/issues fixed, some more to go :)
Perhaps I was thinking of the "View Forum Leaders" list available from the main forum page, which is really the members list, just sorted into categories...THAT works okay if you want to look up membership. :)

[Seshat]

I've been wondering how the "New Posts" link (in the Menu Bar) and the "Today's Posts" drop-down link (under Quick Links) are different??

[mazzmatazz]

Thats a feature, not a bug :)

A short lived feature I see :p Shame, I was enjoying the confusion the change had thrown everyone into :rolleyes:

This is NOTHING compared to the forums my friend and I run. I've managed to accidentally ban my own IP before, and he's accidentally deleted the whole database about, what, three, four times now? :D

[ToasterOnFire]

Running Firefox 1.0.5 and everything seems to be fine so far...
Oh, I agree that the first "submit message" button in the reply page isn't working. Seems to be a dead link? The lower button next to the "preview post" button works fine.

LOVE the in-thread edit feature!!

Thanks guys for all the hard work! You're the best! :)

[Seshat]

Is there a way to get back to the thread listing from the bottom of the page? There's one at the top of the page, but I typically read from top to bottom and it's a pain to have to scroll all the way back up to get the link to thread listing. Or am I missing something as usual?
I was actually hoping that we might get the Menu Bar at the bottom of the page as well as across the top...I prefer reading from top to bottom as well and hate having to scroll back up all the time to go to New Posts or Quick Links. Maybe someday...;)

But my name has gone back to its beautiful BLUE, for which I am very grateful. :)

[Anubis69]

I don't want to complain or point out any mistakes or anything, I just wanna say thanks!! You guys put in a lot of effort into this place, and i for one really appreciate it. It's a bit like a second home these days!! Anyway, cheers! :D

[blingaway]

I was actually hoping that we might get the Menu Bar at the bottom of the page as well as across the top...I prefer reading from top to bottom as well and hate having to scroll back up all the time to go to New Posts or Quick Links. Maybe someday...;)

But my name has gone back to its beautiful BLUE, for which I am very grateful. :)

You look good in blue. :)

I just discovered the 'top' link, there under the forum jump. I knew I was missing something! :P This is like getting a new gadget and playing with it to find all the features! :D

[Seshat]

You look good in blue. :)

I just discovered the 'top' link, there under the forum jump. I knew I was missing something! :P This is like getting a new gadget and playing with it to find all the features! :D Aha! I knew if I whined a little someone nice would point me in the right direction. :D I've been talking to non-helpful software customer support people all day which is tending to make me a little impatient (and testy)...:rolleyes:

Thank you, Bling!!

[Merentha]

Also, if there's any chance to get "My Controls" put back on the right-hand side of the screen... *wistful sigh*
I won't make any other complaints... but I'm begging on this one, lol :rolleyes:

Did the link back to Gateworld home disappear or did it move somewhere I'm not seeing?

[ShadowMaat]

Did the link back to Gateworld home disappear or did it move somewhere I'm not seeing?
LOL! I was just popping in to mention it was missing. ;) I didn't realize how much I used it...

And I keep clicking on quicklinks, dammit.

And are threads not updating properly? 'cause I logged off and back in and that usually clears the "unread threads" thing, but now they're still showing up as unread. Not a HUGE thing, but it's distracting.

If I had to pick, though, getting My Controls back where it belongs ranks as more important. :D

[Qasim]

When I click on QR the box doesnt activate and all the clickable things in the reply boxes such as the font, font size selection stuff etc. doesnt work

I have tried firefox and IE

[Naeara]

I won't make any other complaints... but I'm begging on this one, lol :rolleyes:

lol yeah me too. I keep clicking on Quick Links. :rolleyes: :p

[Jeffer]

works fine for me and i am running Firefox 1.0.7

[Qasim]

Fixed the quick reply problem - had to do ctrl+f5 (hard refresh)

[Qasim]

I know that theres a thread for problems but it will be easier for people to find this in a new thread

If the quick reply box is not activating when you click on QR - press ctrl+f5 to do a hard refresh should fix it

[blingaway]

Did the link back to Gateworld home disappear or did it move somewhere I'm not seeing?

'Gateworld Home' is under Forum Jump too.

[MartoufMarty]

I'm not having any trouble with Quick Reply or anything.

I did notice that when I go to a person's profile it doesn't have 'Send a Private Message to this user'...

[parsifal]

When on a forum index and clicking the link for the last page of a thread, it now takes you to the top of the last page instead of the last post. Could you restore its previous function?

Thanks!

[Lord Zedd]

Is vbulletin 3.5 stable now? Last time I checked it wasn't stable just yet !;)

[Qasim]

Doesnt seem stable - hopefully just initial hiccups

[Qasim]

PM's are back

[SaberBlade]

i'm a staff member on two forums which use Ajax and i have no problems using the Ajax features on those

however, on this site i can't use quick reply, pick any of the message options (such as font, bold, italic or smilies) and when i click on post reply, i still can't use these features.

i have no problems one of the sites, but the other i did have some of the same problems for a while. the only difference was i was could use quick reply (but couldn't use any of the options) and no matter who i tried to post, kept getting an error about character limits so couldn't post.

not sure how it was fixed but the admin on the site which i had trouble with thought it may have been a skin problem (not a coder, so i can't explain it)

[ShimmeringStar]

I did notice something cool.... Log Out actually logs you out first try now instead of getting the error message....:) :D

(And that hadn't happened for me since I joined the forum in 5/04....)

[ShadowMaat]

Forgot if this was mentioned, but it'd be nice to have the linkbacks at the bottom of the page again. You know, Forum> Office> Announcements.... I'm lazy and I don't like having to scroll all the way back up to the top. And I hate that drop down menu thing. Forum jump? I prefer links I can actually see without having to dig around for them. :P

[x_sid]

I was just wondering what you mean by AJAX. Is it the javascript xmlrequest DOM object that google maps uses or is it something else. We use the AJAX model for many of our apps at work, and we require all our users to use IE. I know this is kind of a strange question, but I just want to be sure I understand.

What does IE not support that your implementation of the AJAX model require?

[MartoufMarty]

Spiffy! The menu was back how it was!

*big hug*

I have no problem with the quick reply and I'm using IE. :D

[Greg]

I was just wondering what you mean by AJAX. Is it the javascript xmlrequest DOM object that google maps uses or is it something else. We use the AJAX model for many of our apps at work, and we require all our users to use IE. I know this is kind of a strange question, but I just want to be sure I understand.

What does IE not support that your implementation of the AJAX model require?

IE 6 (and 7) do not support AJAX whatsoever. (Stands for Asynchronous Javascript something something)

[SlytherinGal]

would you guys make up your mind where to put the 'my controls' it is driving me bonkers (short drive i know)

cool upgrade!

[SaberBlade]

not sure if this is just a problem with me, but when you go to preview a signature change, the save button underneath the preview doesn't work.

is there a thread with a list of known problems or something?

[SlytherinGal]

yea, i noticed that one too myself saber...when i previewed my siggy i could not save it by the save button under the preview, i had to use the other save button

[TechnoWraith]

Are You using the right version of Firefox (or that other browser that was listed)? The new reply features don't work with Internet Explorer, Netscape, etc. Only the right version of Firefox and the other browser will work. ;)

[SlytherinGal]

yup, i have the firefox browser that was listed

[Darren]

OK gang,

We've obviously made progress since the install less than 24 hours ago. Just to be clear, the first thing we are doing is reapplying our customizations to the forum template, so that everything looks just like it did before (plus the new functionality).

If you see a font color that looks wrong, a button in a different place, a missing or misplaced page item or function, it's probably still on our to-do list. We're working to make everything as it was -- menu bar, breadcrumb navigation in the footer, etc. etc. (The reason we have to do this is because the 3.5 upgrade is so significant. The smaller incremental upgrades do not affect the templates themselves, which were customized fairly significantly before this forum launched in May 2004.)

Then we'll entertain suggestions on what to actually change.

If you are having vBulletin functionality problems (like a "Submit" button doesn't submit), the first thing you should do is clear your browser's cache and restart. If the problem persists and it actually turns out to be a bug in the new version of the software, we'll wait patiently for vB to release a fix.

Thanks! Stay tuned.

[SaberBlade]

honestly, i don't accept AJAX not being compatible as a good reason. i've used it with IE6 on other forums and currently having no problems and strangely enough, the one site i did have trouble with was fixed with a new skin was added.

maybe the template upgrades that need to be done are causing problems because i've no plans to use firefox because one site won't work right, even if it is a good site like this.

also, tried deleting the cache, didn't help at all

[Arlessiar]

Perhaps I was thinking of the "View Forum Leaders" list available from the main forum page, which is really the members list, just sorted into categories...THAT works okay if you want to look up membership. :) Hm, I've tried to take a look at that list yesterday and today, but whenever I try the site freezes/hangs up. :(

Is anyone else having problems to subscribe to a thread via the thread tools? It only works when I'm also submitting a message, not when I try to subscribe directly (I cleared the cache). But I'll wait patiently, just as Darren said, maybe there'll be a fix released soon. :)

But it's great that many changes, like the link colors, happened so quickly, thank you!

Bye, A.

[Qasim]

Hm, I've tried to take a look at that list yesterday and today, but whenever I try the site freezes/hangs up. :( Best not to look at that it takes ages even on adsl to load up

[Wass]

Ok I did not get the chance to read all the thread yesterday (RL) but I read that these new updates will not work IE but I have IE 6.0.2 I have noticed a lot of changes they seem to be working on IE.

[Three PhDs]

Biggest most annoying problem is read threads. Threads I have read and posted in, then come back the next day... are highlighted as new, even though there's nothing new in them. Also, decrease size, increase size and switch editor mode of the reply thing are broken images.

[FoolishPleasure]

I have nothing to complain about. :eek: :D

[Qasim]

Of course you dont - Droops is gone

[Celestial]

Great job on the new look! Love the changes! GW just got better! :D

Now if only I can visit more often :o :(

[Jynjyr]

You look good in blue. :)

I just discovered the 'top' link, there under the forum jump. I knew I was missing something! :P This is like getting a new gadget and playing with it to find all the features! :D
*tiny little voice* It's always been there.

[Vee]

Biggest most annoying problem is read threads. Threads I have read and posted in, then come back the next day... are highlighted as new, even though there's nothing new in them.
I had that problem as well. Have you tried clicking on "mark forums read" once you're done browsing the forum? I came back after having done that and I no longer had the same problem. Now only new posts since I last visited are highlighted.

[ShadowMaat]

I had that problem as well. Have you tried clicking on "mark forums read" once you're done browsing the forum? I came back after having done that and I no longer had the same problem. Now only new posts since I last visited are highlighted.
Yeah, I've had to resort to doing that, too. But it's tough picking up new habits. ;)

Is this a permanent change to the system, or is it something that can be "fixed" to revert to the old way?

[Qasim]

How come PM's sometimes work and sometimes dont?

[Sue_Jackson]

Dear Mods:

I don't know if you can see it. But, I'm getting this huge space in my sig space. Is there anyway you can get rid of it? It's driving me crazy. :S

Thanks :)

[x_sid]

IE 6 (and 7) do not support AJAX whatsoever. (Stands for Asynchronous Javascript something something)

AJAX, or at least the AJAX design model we use can be used on four of the major Browsers, Mozilla, Firefox, Safair, Netscape and IE6. However IE6 is a bit finiky in how you use it. Here is some sample code if anyone cares that will allow you to allow AJAX to run on IE6.

<script type="text/javascript">
var xmlhttp

function loadXMLDoc(url)
{
// code for Mozilla, etc.
if (window.XMLHttpRequest)
{
xmlhttp=new XMLHttpRequest()
xmlhttp.onreadystatechange=xmlhttpChange
xmlhttp.open("GET",url,true)
xmlhttp.send(null)
}
// code for IE
else if (window.ActiveXObject)
{
xmlhttp=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP")
if (xmlhttp)
{
xmlhttp.onreadystatechange=xmlhttpChange
xmlhttp.open("GET",url,true)
xmlhttp.send()
}
}
}

function xmlhttpChange()
{
// if xmlhttp shows "loaded"
if (xmlhttp.readyState==4)
{
// if "OK"
if (xmlhttp.status==200)
{
// ...some code here...
}
else
{
alert("Problem retrieving XML data")
}
}
}
</script>

this example can be found at
http://www.w3schools.com/dom/dom_http.asp
Now it's entirely possible that I'm thinking of a different AJAX, but if not I hope this helps.

[Darren]

There you go, Sue! There was a bunch of unused BB code tags, a la:

[ center][ font][ size][ /center][ /font][ /size]

[ShadowMaat]

Thread subscription seems to be on the fritz. I click "subscribe to thread" and it pops up with Notification Type and I select "no email" and hit the submit button... and it pops me back to Notification Type.

[knocknashee]

AJAX, or at least the AJAX design model we use can be used on four of the major Browsers, Mozilla, Firefox, Safair, Netscape and IE6. However IE6 is a bit finiky in how you use it. Here is some sample code if anyone cares that will allow you to allow AJAX to run on IE6.

Someone care to explain this AJAX thing???

Cos contary to what Greg said, my IE does support inline replies and edits...and the reply just appears at the bottom of the thread I'm posting in, without refreshing the rest...

[Greg]

Ok, maybe IE does work :)

[SlytherinGal]

yea, cuz when i used IE (before i d/led firefox) i still had use of the quick replies and such that i am also getting with firefox :D

[Willow'sCat]

Ok, maybe IE does work :)Well I am using IE6 and some things don't seem to be working or at least I am getting boxes with crosses in them on the posting page and my posts are not very fast to be, well posted.

Not happy.:(

[Bagpuss]

The only snag I'm still getting (I'm on IE6),is that to pm someone,I have to go to any post I can find by them ,click on their name, then go to "send a personal message".Then the box comes up fine.
(Or go into my control panel, go to "Send new message" and type their name into the space provided.)

If I go to their profile on the Forum Index page,if the poster's logged in, it just shows the link to e-mail them at the right side,but just click on "find all posts by".It works.

Otherwise no worries,but good luck to all who are currently having problems.:)

[Greg]

Well I am using IE6 and some things don't seem to be working or at least I am getting boxes with crosses in them on the posting page and my posts are not very fast to be, well posted.

Not happy.:(

The post page hasnt changed at all, it is only the quick reply function(s)

[SilverRider]

The post page hasnt changed at all, it is only the quick reply function(s)

I believe that's what Drwho'srose is refering to. :)

[Willow'sCat]

The post page hasnt changed at all, it is only the quick reply function(s)When I click on the Quote page like I am now I have things in boxes with crosses what are they meant to be? I haven't tried to PM anyone yet so I don't know if that is affected.

Small things have changed too to do with my toolbar (must be IE6), spellchecker being one and right clicking to delete a line isn't working now either.

Like I said small things but well annoying.

I will have to change my browser. :(

[Qasim]

Ok, maybe IE does work :):D

[Sue_Jackson]

There you go, Sue! There was a bunch of unused BB code tags, a la:

[ center][ font][ size][ /center][ /font][ /size]

Thanks, Darren! :D It's all fixed! You're awesome! :)

[Stricken]

*Wonders why alll seem to have problems whem < hasnt has any*

[x_sid]

Someone care to explain this AJAX thing???

Cos contary to what Greg said, my IE does support inline replies and edits...and the reply just appears at the bottom of the thread I'm posting in, without refreshing the rest...

AJAX is just a way of doing web page content. It puts Javascript on the browser that does communication with the webserver. This allows for load to be pushed off of the usually overloaded Server, and onto the less loaded client (Which is your computer). This allows for faster and richer webpages, because they are no longer static, and there isn't a big investment in other third party technologies, because the three technologies that are involded. On the Server side computing, using a standard programming language, Java, or a server side scripting language. And on the client you use Javascript to generate the content of the HTML page that shows up on your computer. The third technology is XML that is used to comunicate between the two. So in short AJAX isn't a new technology, just a new way of thinking. Sort of like the Blackbird in Galactica. There all the stuff they used was standard stuff, but when they were all put togther you get a new kind of fighter.

Hope that helps. If you have a headache don't fear I still have one and I've been doing this stuff at work for 2 months now.

[Three PhDs]

Same problems as I posted before, ah well.

[blingaway]

*tiny little voice* It's always been there.

Bwa! It always takes extraordinary events to clue me in. :o

[Erin Olenko]

Very good updates!
I use Firefox and it rocks!
Thanks!

[ShadowMaat]

I still can't subscribe to threads, not via IE and not via Firefox. *sigh*

Is it safe to assume the graphics for "attachments", "check spelling" and "switch editor mode" will be coming along eventually?

[Bagpuss]

I can't subscribe to new threads,either,via IE ,atm,Shadow,so I'm doing it the old fashioned way...pen and paper and writing down the thread titles ! :o

(Of course,then I'll probably lose the slip of paper..*head/desk*)

[ShadowMaat]

Oh, I can do that easily enough, but I like subscribing to threads of interest because they show up under my controls whenever there are new messages in them. And if I'm scrolling through a big section like Gen Disc, I might miss something. :D

[Bagpuss]

Lol !:D It's entirely possible to miss threads completely in GD in particular,due to the fast turnover....so it's back to tracking down those pesky threads for me ! ;)

(Pesky threads..I sound like Elmer Fudd !)

No problem with the threads I already had on my subscribed list ,but the others I tried to subscribe to the past few days just won't co-operate.

[Stricken]

There still a fw things Darren and co have to work out, they going as fast as they can!! :D

[Bagpuss]

Of course they are,S,G.C.,and I admire how hard they've worked on this site/forum,as they have real lives,jobs,families and interests too.:)

These small problems are a mere trifle, in the overall running of the software and hardware of GW ,but if there are any glitches,then they're best reported,just in case they form part of a bigger problem.

JMO ! :)

[Mio]

I hate it.

You cant use keys like Home and End, or the arrow keys, or the shift key (I use shift-arrow keys, etc. to select things all the time)

Plus, in firefox, whenever I try to use the quote key, it brings up search rather than appearing in the quick reply box.


Edit:
Damn you fickle vBulletin! It works now. But before it didn't, on three seperate posts (and one reboot) that I tried.

[Stricken]

Maybe it was picking on you!

[Seshat]

No problem with the threads I already had on my subscribed list ,but the others I tried to subscribe to the past few days just won't co-operate.
I am having this same problem. :( I hope it's getting near the top of the "fix me please" list. ;)

[knocknashee]

AJAX is just a way of doing web page content. It puts Javascript on the browser that does communication with the webserver. This allows for load to be pushed off of the usually overloaded Server, and onto the less loaded client (Which is your computer). This allows for faster and richer webpages, because they are no longer static, and there isn't a big investment in other third party technologies, because the three technologies that are involded. On the Server side computing, using a standard programming language, Java, or a server side scripting language. And on the client you use Javascript to generate the content of the HTML page that shows up on your computer. The third technology is XML that is used to comunicate between the two. So in short AJAX isn't a new technology, just a new way of thinking. Sort of like the Blackbird in Galactica. There all the stuff they used was standard stuff, but when they were all put togther you get a new kind of fighter.

Hope that helps. If you have a headache don't fear I still have one and I've been doing this stuff at work for 2 months now.
Thanks for the explanation x_sid...it all becomes clear now... :)

[Hywel]

Hi, I don't know if this problem is related to the recent update, but the first posts of episode threads look like this:


http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6838/thread4au.th.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thread4au.jpg)

I can't see anyone else talking about this problem - surely it's not just me?

[ShadowMaat]

It looks as if the logout error is back. Any chance it can be repaired, or should we just be grateful for the respite while it lasted?

[Darren]

Hywel, I thought I'd fixed that problem several days ago. It's showing correctly for me.

Is anyone else still seeing the HTML code in the first post of episode threads?

[SlytherinGal]

yes, i am darren...i just went to one of the eppy threads and looked at the first post...and all i got was the HTML codes :S

http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=1143&postcount=1

[LoneStar1836]

Hywel, I thought I'd fixed that problem several days ago. It's showing correctly for me.

Is anyone else still seeing the HTML code in the first post of episode threads?I am.

I'm using Firefox version 1.0.7 if that makes any difference.

Another glitch with the upgrade. When you hit "preview post" and your preview pops up, the "Submit Message" button under the preview is dead. Not that it's stopping me from posting, so it doesn't really matter, but thought I'd mention it anyway even though y'all probably already know about it.

[ShadowMaat]

Yup. Still seeing the code. And I still can't subscribe to threads unless I use the additional options when replying.

[Seshat]

yes, i am darren...i just went to one of the eppy threads and looked at the first post...and all i got was the HTML codes :S
http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=1143&postcount=1 Yes, I am also having that problem, and this problem:

When you hit "preview post" and your preview pops up, the "Submit Message" button under the preview is dead.
AND this problem still:

And I still can't subscribe to threads unless I use the additional options when replying.
I get all the same problems above whether I use Netscape, IE and Firefox. No diff. :(

[FoolishPleasure]

Hywel, I thought I'd fixed that problem several days ago. It's showing correctly for me.

Is anyone else still seeing the HTML code in the first post of episode threads?
"LOST" - season two. ."Orientation" episode thread. Starts with HTML gobbledygoop.

[Qasim]

Is anyone else still seeing the HTML code in the first post of episode threads?A few weeks ago before the upgrade I saw html code in one of the season 5 ep threads

[VirtualCLD]

You cant use keys like Home and End, or the arrow keys, or the shift key (I use shift-arrow keys, etc. to select things all the time)

Plus, in firefox, whenever I try to use the quote key, it brings up search rather than appearing in the quick reply box.


That's a bug in Firefox, one I've been following for some time becasue I've always had that bug on my lab computer. It pops up only on certain computers whenever you try to ype in a textbox with Firefox. When you start Firefox up, at first it works fine, but after a while, the arrow keys don't work, the home/end doesn't work, the copy/paste isn't behaving correctly, and finally when ever you hit \ or ', the FastFind pops up. My two home computers don't experience this problem at all, but my lab computer has had this problem throughout every version. Other people have posted this in the Mozilla forums, but no one can consistantly re-create the problem on any computer. The only known "fix" is when you notice that ' brings up Fastfind, or the arrow keys stop working, or copy/paste acts funny, etc.... you can open up a new window (Ctrl-N, not a new tab) and it will stop, for a time.

EDIT:
I'm also seeing the HTML code for the Lost Seson 2, Ep 3 Orientation Thread.

[Mio]

That's a bug in Firefox, one I've been following for some time becasue I've always had that bug on my lab computer. It pops up only on certain computers whenever you try to ype in a textbox with Firefox. When you start Firefox up, at first it works fine, but after a while, the arrow keys don't work, the home/end doesn't work, the copy/paste isn't behaving correctly, and finally when ever you hit \ or ', the FastFind pops up. My two home computers don't experience this problem at all, but my lab computer has had this problem throughout every version. Other people have posted this in the Mozilla forums, but no one can consistantly re-create the problem on any computer. The only known "fix" is when you notice that ' brings up Fastfind, or the arrow keys stop working, or copy/paste acts funny, etc.... you can open up a new window (Ctrl-N, not a new tab) and it will stop, for a time.

EDIT:
I'm also seeing the HTML code for the Lost Seson 2, Ep 3 Orientation Thread.

Interesting. That's what I started to think when It happened again yesterday.

[ShadowMaat]

I've lost track of the thread about not being able to subscribe to threads (a feature which is STILL not working properly) and wanted to add an addendum.

In addition to being able to subscribe to threads when you reply to them (they're in the options box below your post) you can also do the same thing by going in to edit an existing post. Just click on "go advanced" or whatever it is and subscribe that way. Iff'n you don't have anything new to post and don't want to waste space. :)

[Major Tyler]

Is anyone else still seeing the HTML code in the first post of episode threads?I'm using FireFox 1.0.5 and I'm still seeing the HTML code. Mighty strange.

[Darren]

Working on the HTML code issue. This is an add-on plug-in for vBulletin 3.5 which apparently doesn't have all its issues ironed out yet, so we're waiting on the plug-in author to provide a working version.

Till then just ignore it, with my apologies.

[Mainer82]

Greg, just because you are anti-IE does not mean you need to lie about the browser. IE 5.5+ supports AJAX...

[Jynjyr]

Greg, just because you are anti-IE does not mean you need to lie about the browser. IE 5.5+ supports AJAX...
That's a little harsh. :(
If he doesn't use IE and the documentation says a version of IE doesn't support it, that's the info he can give.

I was very pleasantly suprised to find that IE 6 supports the enhancements of AJAX.

Loving the in-line editing. :D :D Keep up the good work.

[Qasim]

the documentation says a version of IE doesn't support it, that's the info he can give.Why would it say that when it does?

Plus isnt it the job of a forum admin (or any person with a website) to test in different browsers?

[Greg]

Greg, just because you are anti-IE does not mean you need to lie about the browser. IE 5.5+ supports AJAX...

who said i lied? I misread the vBulletin documentation and corrected myself once i tested it in IE6 and IE7.

And yes, i do dislike IE, since i spend most of my day fixing computers that have been infected through IE exploits. Out of all the Firefox/Mozilla exploits, i've never seen a computer actually infected or hacked through one.

[Qasim]

And yes, i do dislike IE, since i spend most of my day fixing computers that have been infected through IE exploits. Out of all the Firefox/Mozilla exploits, i've never seen a computer actually infected or hacked through one.I have seen lots of FF pc's hacked

It just so happens that more people use IE and that the people who use FF are usually the ones who can take care of themselves

[Greg]

I have seen lots of FF pc's hacked

you clearly lack pants.

[NowIWillDestroyAbydos]

who said i lied? I misread the vBulletin documentation and corrected myself once i tested it in IE6 and IE7.
I think IE7 hasen't been release yet, I think. Or has Microsoft released a Beta version of IE7.

[Greg]

a Beta of IE7 was released to TechNet/MSDN subscribers.

[Qasim]

You can also get it through 'alternate means'