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joshing123
July 7th, 2004, 01:55 PM
For those who are interested - I saw these on Trek Today.

It was time travel, dang it! :rolleyes:

http://www.trektoday.com/news/070704_01.shtml

After almost a season of taking a backseat to the Xindi arc, the Temporal Cold War will heat up again when Star Trek: Enterprise returns for its fourth season in September.

TrekToday sources today provided the first plot details for the premiere episode, reportedly entitled "Storm Front". Continuing from where "Zero Hour" left off, Archer is in the custody of the Nazis, who, as it turns out, are mostly human. When he is being transferred in a jeep with some Nazi soldiers, the vehicle is ambushed. He wakes up in the apartment of Alicia Silvers, a resistance sympathiser. The year? 1944. The place? New York City.

As it turns out, the Germans have made impressive in-roads into North America, as well as Africa and Russia. Washington, D.C., has fallen and the bombed-out White House is now in the hands of the Nazis. They are being aided by an alien commander, Vosk, who is equipping the Germans with weapons based on futuristic technology to aid their war effort.

The general populace remains ignorant of the alien masterminds behind the Nazi advance. When Archer tells Alicia about the figure he saw when he woke up in the tent — the alien with the piercing red eyes — she says that she has heard stories, nothing more. Through her contacts in the American resistance, Alicia promises to introduce Archer to someone who may know more concrete details.

Meanwhile, back on Enterprise, Daniels, the temporal agent, lies dying in sickbay. His body is in flux — some parts are aging, while other portions are regressing to a younger stage. Before he loses consciousness, Daniels manages to tell T'Pol that there is someone the crew needs to stop. This mysterious threat turns out to be none other than Silik, who steals an Enterprise shuttlepod and heads toward Earth...

Please note that these plot details have not yet been confirmed by Paramount Pictures or UPN and until such time you should treat this information as you would any other rumour from an unofficial source. The information comes from an early draft of the script and aspects of the episode may change before it goes to air.


also

http://www.trektoday.com/news/060704_02.shtml

Star Trek: Enterprise executive producer Rick Berman today said last season's cliffhanger will be resolved within the first few episodes of season four.

"We've already mapped out the first six or seven episodes, in a general sense," Berman said in issue 116 of Star Trek Magazine. "We've got a story beat out for the first episode. The Xindi arc will be resolved within the first three episodes.

"And when I say the Xindi arc I mean the predicament of where our characters now find themselves," he said, referring to last season's cliffhanger episode, "Zero Hour", in which Archer wakes up in the custody of an unknown alien wearing a Nazi uniform.

Instead of a storyline that unfolds over the course of an entire year, season four will be comprised of a series of "very high-concept mini-arcs", Berman said. "Just as when we did Star Trek: First Contact, we couldn't do a movie about Picard and company saving the future from being destroyed, we can't do another season-long on Enterprise that involves Archer and company trying to save humanity. On the other hand, we don't feel that we want to go back to the season one and season two concept of 'we're out there exploring space,' period."

Former Odyssey 5 writer Manny Coto, who joined the Enterprise staff as co-executive producer last season, will take a more active role in the creative direction of the series. Coto has been working with Berman and executive producer Brannon Braga to map out these arcs, which "will run two, three, maybe four episodes".

"We've got a couple of them that I think are going to have some big surprises and things that will hearken back to perhaps The Original Series. We'll bring in some actors, and possibly some characters, that are very familiar to our audience."

DownFallAngel
July 7th, 2004, 03:32 PM
It sounds awesome.

AgentX
July 7th, 2004, 03:58 PM
That does sound really good. I may just have to tune in to the first few episodes of Season 4.

David
July 7th, 2004, 04:31 PM
This is very exciting stuff. Thanks for reporting!

shinyredpants
July 8th, 2004, 01:21 PM
oooh!!!!

i didnt read it but from what the other responses are i'm sure its interesting!


hahahahahaha

rihannsu
July 8th, 2004, 01:45 PM
Well, I'm still not sold on the Space Nazi thing, but the mini- arcs thing sounds good. Sounds like the kind of thing that will allow you to jump in mid- season and try.

AgentX
July 8th, 2004, 01:56 PM
I've liked when they have done the Space Nazi thing in the past with Star Trek, so I'm hoping the trend continues. I remember watching the first season of Enterprise. I hope not too much has happened since then :)

DownFallAngel
July 8th, 2004, 02:03 PM
Just watch the last two episodes of season 2 and the entire season 3 and you will be right were season 4 starts.

shelsfc
July 8th, 2004, 02:12 PM
Ooh, I like the sound of S4! I hope it keeps up the same standard as S3!

David
July 8th, 2004, 02:32 PM
Any direction would be better than Pre-Season 3.

DownFallAngel
July 8th, 2004, 02:57 PM
Season 3 was the best season so far.

Jeff O'Connor
July 9th, 2004, 01:15 PM
Season 1 had promise, but became bad. Season 2 had promise, but became bad. This is of course my opinion but I know a lot of people agree with me. What's been wrong with those two years? Little to no character developing episodes and trite stories. Season 3 was absolutely fantastic. Now what they need to do with Season 4 is develop the characters above all else and the show will round itself out, in my opinion.

This mini-arc thing sounds great though. Very original. Well... sorta like Doctor Who in a very weird way.

joshing123
July 13th, 2004, 01:44 PM
Another Trek Today tidbit - guess who (not Shatner) is supposed to be on Enterprise next season...

http://www.trektoday.com/news/110704_01.shtml

Star Trek: The Next Generation actor Brent Spiner (Data) is reportedly set to make a series of guest appearances on Enterprise this season.

Spiner's TNG co-star Marina Sirtis (Deanna Troi) told fans at the Dallas Sci-Fi Expo yesterday that Spiner will appear in three episodes, according to a report submitted by TrekToday reader Jason Weingartner.

The actor, who will reportedly appear without make-up, won't be playing his most familiar character, the android Data, but the grandfather of Data's creator, Dr. Noonien Soong. Soong appeared in the fourth-season Next Generation episode, "Brothers", in which Spiner pulled triple-duty, playing Data, his brother Lore, and Soong.

Sirtis reportedly told fans Spiner's first episode will start shooting next month, with November sweeps the most likely air date. Production on Enterprise's fourth season is scheduled to begin this week, when the premiere episode, "Storm Front", goes before the cameras.

Discussing his plans for Enterprise's fourth season recently, executive procducer Rick Berman said there was a possibility the show could feature "some actors, and possibly some characters, that are very familiar to our audience" (story).

Please note that this information has not been confirmed by Paramount Pictures or UPN and until such time you should treat it as you would any rumour from an unofficial source. Thanks to Jason for sending this in!

joshing123
July 13th, 2004, 01:45 PM
More spoiler stuff.

http://www.trektoday.com/news/090704_04.shtml


The Romulan Wars are tipped to be the subject of the next Star Trek feature film.

Enterprise executive producer Brannon Braga reportedly told the Star Trek Communicator that the series may not be able to feature the Romulan Wars because of a possible clash with the upcoming movie.

"It's certainly one of the things that we've been discussing," Braga reportedly said. "But there's also a prequel feature in development regarding the Romulan Wars, so we might have to stay away from that." In the same magazine, franchise head honcho Rick Berman said Trek XI would be set before the time of Kirk, but would not be connected with Enterprise.

The first sighting of the Romulans came in the second-season episode, "Minefield", in which the NX-01 inadvertantly strayed into Romulan territory. According to established Star Trek lore, the Romulan Neutral Zone was established in 2160 after a long war between Earth and the Romulans. With "Zero Hour" taking place in 2154, the Romulan Wars could conceivably take place during Enterprise's run.

Braga also discussed the storylines in development for Enterprise's fourth season, including the return of the Temporal Cold War. "One thing we're discussing is possibly blowing the lid off the Temporal Cold War once and for all," he reportedly said. "That's probably something we'll do in this first storyline. I can't say that for sure, because we're just getting into it. But I'd really like to resolve that and put a cap on it. It would be a nice thing to do after three seasons of teasing it along."

The foundation of the Federation could also start to figure heavily in the series. "There are going to be some major interstellar events and conflicts happening that could involve the forming of the federation. We're going to see more of what's going on back at Earth. We might see something dealing with the Eugenics Wars."

To read the complete interviews with Rick Berman and Brannon Braga, pick up the latest issue of the Star Trek Communicator. Thanks to 'guyute03' for providing these excerpts!

Tom Servo
July 13th, 2004, 02:05 PM
Ohh, this season is gonna rock!!

Hopfully this romulan war movie isn't a roumor. If TPTB do it right, this movie could be very good. It will be interesting to see how they show the prequel-verse, like enterprise, or more like TOS, as everyone thought before enteprise came out.

shelsfc
July 13th, 2004, 02:54 PM
Ohh, this season is gonna rock!!

Hopfully this romulan war movie isn't a roumor. If TPTB do it right, this movie could be very good. It will be interesting to see how they show the prequel-verse, like enterprise, or more like TOS, as everyone thought before enteprise came out.
I have to admit, while I do love Ent, and am definitly looking forward to S4, I'm not too sure about a prequel movie. I have this nagging feeling that that might be taking it a bit too far...

joshing123
July 15th, 2004, 08:47 AM
I read on Zap2It that UPN has decided to put Enteprise on at 8:00 on Fridays instead of 9:00

No conflicts for us SG-1 fans! Yeah.

DownFallAngel
July 15th, 2004, 10:44 AM
So at 8 its ST:E
at 9 its SG1
and at 10 its SGA
11 is SG1 re-run
and 12 is SGA rerun!!

This is awesome!

Tom Servo
July 15th, 2004, 01:58 PM
Wow, fridays will be epic. We get to sit and watch, great, quality scifi for 3 hours!! Woohoo!! :D

DownFallAngel
July 15th, 2004, 02:08 PM
What happens if there is a two parter for Enterprise?!

joshing123
July 15th, 2004, 02:13 PM
What happens if there is a two parter for Enterprise?!


They almost never run new shows in the 9:00 hour now. Two parters would be 2 separate weeks. They may have reruns at 9:00 like they do now, but that's different.

Tom Servo
July 15th, 2004, 02:50 PM
If there was a two parter...mmm. I would probably tape SG-1 and watch enterprise, just so I could see the ending of the first part. Then I could watch the singe episode of SG-1 later. It would still be hard to decide though... :D

Major Tyler
July 15th, 2004, 03:24 PM
I hope the Terran/Romulan War isn't made into a movie. I hope that it becomes a late-DS9-esque season-long war. A two-hour movie wouldn't be long enough to feature the entire war without rushing things.

DownFallAngel
July 15th, 2004, 03:37 PM
They almost never run new shows in the 9:00 hour now. Two parters would be 2 separate weeks. They may have reruns at 9:00 like they do now, but that's different.


They just said, that ST:E was moved from 9pm to the 8pm slot. Thats why i gave the break down of:

8: ST:E
9: SG1
10: SGA

-Major Woody
July 15th, 2004, 05:47 PM
What happens if there is a two parter for Enterprise?!Shouldn't be a problem since SG-1 will be in reruns by the time season 4 of Enterprise starts. The possibility of conflict comes in January when both series resume first-run episodes.

David85
July 15th, 2004, 08:54 PM
Wow, fridays will be epic. We get to sit and watch, great, quality scifi for 3 hours!! Woohoo!! :D


If you consider Joan of Acadia Sci-Fi then you have fine TV. But there is no way Enterprise will ever be considered epic, or quality. This is it people, if it fails this season it's over, and Friday is the day people move shows to so the ratings drop and they can cancel it quitely.


BTW- It's on at the same time as Stargate SG-1....

Paramount Television has announced that production on the fourth season of STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE has commenced this week. All of the show's seven principal cast members are returning for more missions while the series will be changing its orbit from Wednesday to Friday evenings at 9 PM starting this fall. The fourth season's first episode is entitled "Storm Front Part I".

Here's the official release from Paramount Television:



STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE, the most recent installment and fifth television series from Paramount's long-running and ever-popular Star Trek franchise, begins production on its fourth season this week. The series is moving to Friday nights at 9:00PM (ET/PT) and will resume with the episode entitled, "Storm Front Pt. I" (airdate TBD).


Last season, STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE took a startling new direction, which presented some of the most spectacular action and visual effects in Star Trek history. It was the first time a Star Trek series followed a season-long story arc, which chronicled the crew as they were confronted with their greatest challenge: saving Earth from a new race of threatening time-traveling aliens, the Xindi. These aliens, first seen in the second season finale, launched a preemptive strike against Earth, killing millions. At the conclusion of the third season the crew successfully stopped the Xindi's super weapon from destroying Earth. However, in the process, Captain Archer (Scott Bakula) was seriously injured and transported to what appeared to be World War II-era Nazi Germany.


Over the course of the third season, Archer conjured a greater decisiveness and toughness that was necessary to lead his crew into the dreaded Delphic Expanse and destroy the Xindi's super weapon. T'Pol (Jolene Blalock) left the Vulcan High Command and consequently shed her Vulcan hair and clothing. Though the Xindi weapon has been destroyed, she remains unconvinced that those traveling in space and the Earth itself are safe.


In addition to Scott Bakula and Jolene Blalock, the cast members include: Connor Trinneer as Chief Engineer Charles "Trip" Tucker III, Dominic Keating as Lt. Malcolm Reed; Anthony Montgomery as Ensign Travis Mayweather; Linda Park as Ensign Hoshi Sato and John Billingsley as Dr. Phlox.


Manny Coto, co-executive producer of STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE, joins the ranks of show runner alongside Rick Berman and Brannon Braga this season. Shortly after graduating from the American Film Institute, Coto wrote and directed an episode of TALES FROM THE CRYPT. He went on to direct the feature film, DR. GIGGLES and the children's film, STAR KID. He was also a writer and producer on the series OUTER LIMITS and created the series ODYSSEY 5 for Showtime. He joined the writing staff of STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE in 2003.


Rick Berman and Brannon Braga are the executive producers and creators of STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE, which is based on Star Trek created by Gene Roddenberry. STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE is produced by Paramount Television for UPN. Paramount Television is a unit of Viacom Inc.

Bast
July 16th, 2004, 12:44 AM
Most trekies has accepted that its the last season just crossing their fingers with just a little bit of hope it wont fail, But I guess after being urinated on by B&B for so long how much more punnishment can it take?

The Writing on Enterprise could be such much better if they would let the trekies have more say.I think Berman has realized the TCW is a dead horse and its time to wrap it up this season, People are already calling the Show Time Trek Enterprise.

As for his idea of a prequeil trilology I hope its for TV, Cause its clear after Nemesis Startrek cant win anymore at the box office the Motion picture features is over now.

Startrek is oversaturated and its just to old now, It needs a break for a few years then it can come back.

Whitster
July 16th, 2004, 02:09 AM
Actually I think the idea of prequal movies is a decent idea. And from what i remember Nemesis didn't do that badly in the cinema. It grossed quite highly in the UK aswell as being the best thing to do with ST that happened in years, then we got ENT:season 3 and that was top so maybe we're seeing ST start to get back on form now?

Bast
July 16th, 2004, 02:41 AM
Startrek Nemesis Bombed in the U.S.A their primary market, It got beaten by a crappy JLO flick just a day after being released, They werent smart bring it out a week before the Lord of the rings Two Towers arrived.

Startrek Nemesis is the lowest grossing startrek Film ever, The movie sales keep steadily declining after each release, Insurrection before Nemesis was ranked the lowest grosser. Startrek Nemesis worldwide just breaked even with production costs and only made 7 million profit after months of being out, But it was very close. Some didnt even expect Nemesis to even break even with costs some predicted it would be a loss.The critics and reviewers gave Nemesis a bad ***** slaping too.Sadly Nemesis did so badly the stars like Patrick stewart swore not to make another startrek movie again.
I would see the prequeil movies if released, But to me Berman is just following another Gimic, "Since everyone like Starwars to Cronicles of Riddick is making prequeils why not make one of our own".I dont think Paramount will be happy to release 3 bombs or make barely almost no profit.

The problem with his prequeil idea is that it might not be the Enterprise cast,But a hole new unkown cast we never seen before, I dont think trekies will go for that.

Another thing about Enterprise , Unfortunately they dont give a rats ass about how well it does in the UK and Canada, UPN is the deciding factor if it does bad on UPN all of us suffer, Concidering that Enterprise was almost canceld and was only renued because they lowerd the price per episode and moved to friday and reduced the season to four episodes less then last year, Clearly to me they just want the 100 episodes for Syndication rights and dont plan to go even for season 5.

DownFallAngel
July 16th, 2004, 06:31 AM
Bast you are 100% correct. UPN bases all of its decisions off how well a show does in the US. I really like ENTERPRISE, I hope it does well come season 4. Season 3 was a great season, and I hope the best for Season 4.

Tom Servo
July 16th, 2004, 07:04 AM
If you consider Joan of Acadia Sci-Fi then you have fine TV. But there is no way Enterprise will ever be considered epic, or quality.

There will always be a basher. I don't get why people like yourself, have the nerve to bash enterprise, even when you know if will get the fans mad. Enterprise is as good as SG-1, and is leaps and bounds over Joan of Arcadia(yes I've watched an episode). I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I hate it when people do what you did, just to make us mad. :mad:

David85
July 16th, 2004, 07:28 AM
There will always be a basher. I don't get why people like yourself, have the nerve to bash enterprise, even when you know if will get the fans mad. Enterprise is as good as SG-1, and is leaps and bounds over Joan of Arcadia(yes I've watched an episode). I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I hate it when people do what you did, just to make us mad. :mad:


Aww... it makes you mad... aww...


Sorry the truth hurts. I wish people Like you wouldn't watch Enterprise anymore then it would be canceled and hopefully B and B would be fired and replace them with good people, like the Odyssey 5 guy, and the DS9 guys. I love Trek, but the trash that they call "Star Trek" now needs to fail and fail badly then maybe, finally they will fire the two loses and begin to save Trek. But it might be too late for that. :(

Tom Servo
July 16th, 2004, 07:40 AM
^^Know what, if you don't like enterprise, don't watch it, change the channel. There are people who do like it. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean I have to. There are people who will watch the show weather you like it or not, including myself. Buddy, the truth is a quality show and most of us here enjoy it.

David85
July 16th, 2004, 07:53 AM
Most of you are destroying Star Trek by watching that **** they call Enterprise.

joshing123
July 16th, 2004, 08:52 AM
Friday evenings at 9 PM

Pardon me, Mr. Negative, but as of yesterday you are in fact incorrect.

http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|89370|1|,00.html

<snipped>

"The netlet has moved new episodes of "Star Trek: Enterprise" up to 8 p.m. ET on Friday nights and slipped rebroadcasts of the third season of "America's Next Top Model" to the 9 p.m. slot.

UPN plans to acclimate Trekkies to the new time slot with summer rebroadcasts of "Enterprise" moving to 8 p.m. starting on Aug. 6. "


If you don't like the show, why come to a spoiler thread about it? Do you just enjoy pissing people off? I hate to disappoint you, but your wishes mean squat to me and your attitude actually creates the opposite affect of what you intend. Just for you I am not only going to keep watching it, I am going to continue to promote it here and elsewhere as much as I can!

David85
July 16th, 2004, 09:18 AM
Your "news" is from Wednesday, July 14 12:52 PM, today is the 16th so thats two days not yesterday.

Mine is from July 14, 2004 - 7:19 PM, which is newer in case you couldn't tell and is from a Star Trek site.

So who am I going to believe, some site that looks like someone made in 5 minutes or a Star Trek site?

Slainte
July 16th, 2004, 09:30 AM
Most of you are destroying Star Trek by watching that **** they call Enterprise.
1. Enterprise is not ****.
2. People who like Enterprise are not destroying Star Trek.
3. You might want to avoid pro Enterprise threads.

I am an old, old trekker. 38 years ago this month I was getting excited by what I read about the new scifi show, Star Trek, that was premiering in September. Take it from me, the Star Trek franchise is not going to be destroyed by Enterprise.

Enterprise is a good show. It just hasn't found it's center yet, that spark that makes it great.

aAnubiSs
July 16th, 2004, 10:44 AM
I don't think Enterprise is the best, but I still think it's better then voyager. So while I don't crave for Enterprise, it's still watchable.

DownFallAngel
July 16th, 2004, 11:57 AM
My order of Trek would go....

1. DS9
2. Voyager (Season 4-7)
3. Enterprise
4. TNG Movies (Not including Generations (TNG Movie 1))
5. TNG (Season 4-7)
6. Star Trek (Original)

langdonboom
July 16th, 2004, 12:07 PM
Its amazing how virulent Star Trek discussions can get so quickly. One of the things I like better about SG-1, a lot less proprietary fans who think they own the show.

Tom Servo
July 16th, 2004, 12:10 PM
^^There is a lot of turmoil between trek fans, espacially around enterprise. Some like it, some don't. It's their own opinion.

joshing123
July 16th, 2004, 01:37 PM
Your "news" is from Wednesday, July 14 12:52 PM, today is the 16th so thats two days not yesterday.

Mine is from July 14, 2004 - 7:19 PM, which is newer in case you couldn't tell and is from a Star Trek site.

So who am I going to believe, some site that looks like someone made in 5 minutes or a Star Trek site?


Are you kidding?

First of all Zap2it.com is a very well known web site and, as far as I've seen in the year+ I've been visiting it, has always been accurate.

Secondly, the same information is on at least 3 other web sites that I've seen, including trektoday.com

Third, these articles were based on an announcement by UPN. You know, the network that airs the show. I think they know a lot more about their own schedule. That press release you cited was probably written weeks ago before the change was made, even if it was posted a whopping 6 hours later.

And last, but most definately not least - Fourth, may I direct you to http://www.upn.com/shows/fall_preview_2004/
This is the UPN web site with the UPN schedule which - drum roll - shows Enteprise on at 8:00 on Friday!

What do you care anyway? You won't be watching.

LordAnubis
July 28th, 2004, 03:53 PM
I hope the Terran/Romulan War isn't made into a movie. I hope that it becomes a late-DS9-esque season-long war. A two-hour movie wouldn't be long enough to feature the entire war without rushing things.
I like your idea about "Hide and Seek", but I almost felt bad for the poor Wraith! They are only trying to get a well balanced meal like us, is that so wrong? heh.

DownFallAngel
July 28th, 2004, 04:11 PM
SciFi Wire has just posted a new interview with Jolene, were she talks about her role of T'Pol on Enterprise. She said her character would be getting married.....

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2004-07/28/12.00.tv

Major Tyler
July 28th, 2004, 05:10 PM
I like your idea about "Hide and Seek", but I almost felt bad for the poor Wraith! They are only trying to get a well balanced meal like us, is that so wrong? heh.LOL, thanks, LordAnubis. I'm just curious...what does this have to do with the quote you quoth me on? :p

Teal'c
July 28th, 2004, 05:43 PM
LOL, thanks, LordAnubis. I'm just curious...what does this have to do with the quote you quoth me on? :p
I think he's confused :P

My order of Trek goes:

DS9
TNG
Voyager
Enterprise

I've only seen the odd episode of TOS, but it didn't really appeal to me though...

pjrocko2003
March 2nd, 2005, 03:38 AM
sound pretty cool now that Stargate is coming to an end for a while i need some sci-fi to do me until stagate comes back again. Saw "zero hour" and it was class! Looking foward to next week already!