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Indum'kra
August 30th, 2005, 03:23 PM
^Title.

6thMonolith
August 30th, 2005, 03:28 PM
I'm not sure. It's not in the Omnipedia...

Lord §okar
August 30th, 2005, 09:45 PM
At once point I personally believed that it was the class that Apophis/Sokars superbattleship (The Serpents Venom, Enemies, Exodus) belonged to but that is pure speculation. The truth is that there is no such thing as a Cheops class ship in the canon. It's a term invented by the fandom.

Crazedwraith
August 31st, 2005, 06:56 AM
its a 'fanom' (fan+canon) term for Apophsis' super mother ship. But i have also seen it applied to the original just a pyramid goa'uld motherships such as Ra and Her'ur used when visistin abydos.

Qasim
August 31st, 2005, 07:04 AM
A fandom fluff term its not real

HAL
August 31st, 2005, 09:49 AM
i always thought it was RAs ship to


Well the ships that can land on pyramids since the normal hatak ones cant

Jarnin
August 31st, 2005, 07:14 PM
Well the ships that can land on pyramids since the normal hatak ones cant
Yeah, the Ha'tak ships cannot possibly land on a pyramid, because the Ha'taks are tetrahedrons (3 sides), not pyramids (4 sides).

Kinda makes me laugh, because of Daniel's whole theory about pyramids being landing platforms for alien ships, and then the alien ships can't actually land on them...

Lord §okar
August 31st, 2005, 07:17 PM
A mark-II Ha'tak landed on a pyramid in Double Jeopardy and an inspection of its core reveals that it was actually square based... for that episode alone, the same Ha'tak two episodes later was tetrahedral again. :p

There are lander ships but they're not Ha'tak class, Ra and Heru-ur had one and they're mor like unarmed yachts.

Charles17
August 31st, 2005, 09:41 PM
goauld ships can land on pyramids. they can land on mountains. their landing pads dont need to fit their bottoms exactly. in 'the reckoning' you see motherships on i think pyramids

Lord §okar
August 31st, 2005, 11:57 PM
They do have to fit and if they don't the force of langding will rip a side off the pyramid. I wrote an article abou this for my website.


if this pyramid ship were now to land on a pyramid two or more edges of the landing pad would be applied to a face of the inner surface of the landing ship. Furthermore, since the pyramid has shallower internal angles than that of the ship (see image directly below), one third of the upward force exerted by the landing pad will be directed at what approximates a point. Instead of the weight of the vessel being borne equally it would now be applied to two extremely narrow areas resulting in the exertion of enormous pressures. In the process of landing the unequal distribution of force would tear the ship apart (two of the three sides receiving pressures roughly 23,000 times the yield strength of steel (assuming ship mass = 6 billion metric tonnes and a deformation of contact surface to a conveinent 1m2)). Evidently it is impossible for the standard triangular based Ha'tak ship to land on classic square based pyramid structures.

HAL
September 1st, 2005, 01:23 AM
The hatak didnt land on the mountain it hovered just over it

Lord §okar
September 1st, 2005, 01:44 AM
No, it landed on the mountain. The docking collar made contact, the whole mountain shook with the impact.

HAL
September 1st, 2005, 02:11 AM
i cant remember the episode problem but atleast it landed on top not not like go down on it

Lord §okar
September 1st, 2005, 03:15 AM
What? The episode is "There But For the Grace of God".

EternalAlteran
June 7th, 2008, 10:08 AM
Cheops-class is the one used by Ra in the film Stargate, Heru'ur also has at least one of them

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Cheops_class_warship

Mister Oragahn
June 7th, 2008, 01:20 PM
At once point I personally believed that it was the class that Apophis/Sokars superbattleship (The Serpents Venom, Enemies, Exodus) belonged to but that is pure speculation. The truth is that there is no such thing as a Cheops class ship in the canon. It's a term invented by the fandom.

Woah geez you're there?? :)

I was about to say the same stuff.

I think it was even applied to the super ships, which of course have nothing to do with Cheops-type pyramids.

If anything, the term would be most suited for the cruise ships used by Ra's lineage; but contrary to the wikia page up there, there's no canon to back it up.
I think I'll have to edit that page as well at some point, after some discussion. Trouble is that their standards for canon are incorrect.

immhotep
June 7th, 2008, 01:50 PM
I always thought it was the origional pre-anubis mothership. Anubis's ships seemed alot more powerful.

Palantir71
June 7th, 2008, 02:28 PM
^Title.

could it be the super duper ship Anubis had ??

Jarnin
June 9th, 2008, 09:25 AM
"Cheops" is the Greek translation of Khufu, who was a pharaoh in the old dynasty (Late 2500's BCE). He's also considered by many to be the builder of the Great Pyramid of Giza.

Based on that, I'd say "Cheops Class" refers to the type of ship Ra commanded in the movie, since it landed on the Great Pyramid in Giza as well as it's twin on Abydos.

FN-P90
June 9th, 2008, 09:27 AM
Ive never heard of it before

Maedhros_Sea
June 9th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Pure fan fic. That said:

The pyramids of the Giza plateau are all of different size. So, it should refer to a square pyramid ship sized to the Khufu pyramid. Which suggests a slightly different Khafre type, and smaller Menkaure, and Djoser types among others.

But, all ships that saw service millenia ago and now forgotten, abandoned, scrapped, or long since lost.

Mclean
June 11th, 2008, 04:19 AM
In the Stargate Wiki the Cheops class ship is the Pyramid ship that Ra and Heru-ur went to Abydos with. Heru-ur also sent three of them to Cimmeria in Thor's Chariot.

Mister Oragahn
June 11th, 2008, 06:00 AM
In the Stargate Wiki the Cheops class ship is the Pyramid ship that Ra and Heru-ur went to Abydos with. Heru-ur also sent three of them to Cimmeria in Thor's Chariot.

But they took that bit from RPG sources, which only a few consider part of the canon, albeit on a lower scale.

Gmandex
June 11th, 2008, 10:30 AM
^Title.

No idea, where exactly did you here that anyway?

Maedhros_Sea
June 11th, 2008, 06:27 PM
wiki isn't a good or reliable source. Ever. For anything.