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The Forrunner
July 30th, 2005, 07:53 AM
The pistol that Ronon uses to stun sheppard and teyla in the episode Runner does not appear to be anything that his people could have made. Is it an Ancient weapon or was it created by the race that created the virus in Hot Zone? ( i think that because of the red color theme). Or was it created by yet another advanced alien race? any ideas?

AGateFan
July 30th, 2005, 07:55 AM
The pistol that Ronon uses to stun sheppard and teyla in the episode Runner does not appear to be anything that his people could have made. Is it an Ancient weapon or was it created by the race that created the virus in Hot Zone? ( i think that because of the red color theme). Or was it created by yet another advanced alien race? any ideas?

Not sure but we need more, that was way cooler then the wraith stunner.

Cycrow
July 30th, 2005, 08:16 AM
maybe he created it himself from a wraith stunner or something, he was on the for 7 years, so he had planety of time to do it

Calicto
July 30th, 2005, 08:17 AM
Wait, why not his people?????

They seemed pretty advanced from their cities and they had enough soldiers to make their military look threatening.

I'm sure that it is his own technology... though... he would have been stripped of his weapons after the cull and I doubt he could have found another of his race's gun while on the run.

AGateFan
July 30th, 2005, 08:26 AM
Wait, why not his people?????

They seemed pretty advanced from their cities and they had enough soldiers to make their military look threatening.

I'm sure that it is his own technology... though... he would have been stripped of his weapons after the cull and I doubt he could have found another of his race's gun while on the run.

His peoples guns looked like Genii weapons... projectile based weapons. The handgun he had was definitly energy based.

TheCorpulent1
July 30th, 2005, 10:35 AM
His peoples guns looked like Genii weapons... projectile based weapons. The handgun he had was definitly energy based.
The fact that his gun looked like a projectile weapon (we don't even know whether it was or not for sure) doesn't mean that his people were incapable of making energy weapons. His planet seemed more advanced than Earth to me, so it's possible he could've just taken an experimental energy sidearm or something. I think it's more likely that he scavenged it off some other planet while he was running, but that doesn't necessarily preclude the possibility that his people could've made it.

Lida
July 30th, 2005, 10:40 AM
The fact that his gun looked like a projectile weapon (we don't even know whether it was or not for sure) doesn't mean that his people were incapable of making energy weapons. His planet seemed more advanced than Earth to me, so it's possible he could've just taken an experimental energy sidearm or something. I think it's more likely that he scavenged it off some other planet while he was running, but that doesn't necessarily preclude the possibility that his people could've made it.

As Ronon Dex was a weapons specialist and as he has been on the run from the Wraith for past 7 years, it makes perfect sense, he would have "acquired" more than one type of weapon, both projectile and energy based. I have no doubt he traded with many poeple on many worlds and may, in this way, have come into contact with the Genii.

Also, as was already staed, his own homeworld, Atteria, looked very advanced technologically, so I'm sure he received training, not only in the use of weapons, but also their construction.

Just an idea...

TheCorpulent1
July 30th, 2005, 10:47 AM
From the fact that he's survived being hunted by the Wraith for 7 years and the way he kicked just about everyone's ass in this episode, I think it's safe to assume that he had a lot of training. It's nice that the Atlantis crew has its own bona fide badass now, so long as they keep it up. I'd hate to see Dex fall into the Worf trap. Worf started out as a badass, but after a while he was almost always the first one to rush in like a moron and get his ass kicked right off the bat.

Anyway, that's an interesting theory on the gun, that maybe he scavenged parts and built it himself with whatever training and ingenuity he had. It'd add another dimension besides just being the obligatory hardcore fighter, if he was also a master weapons expert, capable of building his own stuff. And he did seem to figure out the P90s rather quickly, didn't he? I like that theory a lot, actually. :)

Qasim
July 30th, 2005, 10:54 AM
I think its a modified wraith gun

macktheknife
July 30th, 2005, 11:05 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/davidbowieWAU/atlantisweapon1.jpg
From The Brotherhood.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/davidbowieWAU/atlantisweapon2.jpg
From Runner

I think someone asked a question about his rifle gun used in the flashback on his home planet. Same gun. At first I thought they were shotguns, but he fires it like a mini gatling gun, fires one barrell, then the next then the 3rd.

His Pistol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/davidbowieWAU/AtlantisPistol.jpg
The part with the trigger etc, and the glowly thing, looks like a revolver, whilst the end looks more like some sort of micro SMG.

TheCorpulent1
July 30th, 2005, 11:24 AM
Thanks for the pics, mack. Maybe the Atterians imported weapons from the Genii for mass distribution and developed their own specialized energy weapons?

Calicto
July 30th, 2005, 11:46 AM
Did anyone notice the smaller Wraith pistol? The one that looked like a "Wraith Stunner Pistol"???? That was cool. (The Wraith chasing Ronan had one and later Ford takes the Wraith's).

Also, Ronan used a projectile weapon in the siege against Atteria because they are much more effective against darts than small energy. In a one on one fight, lasers a so much better.

TheCorpulent1
July 30th, 2005, 12:05 PM
The Wraith drones that corner McKay in "The Siege III" also had the smaller stunners. I don't understand why they don't just use the handheld stunners all the time instead of the massively oversized stunners introduced in "Rising," myself. Maybe the larger stunners deliver a more powerful charge or something. Though the larger ones are still ineffective against Ford and the smaller one was almost worthless against Dex, so it seems the Wraith's weapons all just suck in general. :p

Qasim
July 30th, 2005, 12:39 PM
We seriously need to find a weapon to use against Ford

jons242
July 30th, 2005, 01:18 PM
I think Ronons gun is a mix of Wraith tech and some from his home planet. I find Ronons planet looking more advance doesn't make sense. I am assuming the Wraith feeding ground is the entire Pegasus galaxy. They are supposed to cull the humans everyone 100 years. This allows the humans left from the last cull to reproduce back to sufficient numbers for the next feeding. So if that's true then every planet would never advance beyond 100 years after each cull. There society would have been so devastated who ever survives the cull will have to start all over again.

Peoples_General
July 30th, 2005, 03:11 PM
It seems that Dex can go toe-to-toe with Ford. And if you look at one part while the wraith was beginning to feed on him, the wraith stopped. Is it possible he was also given a little bit of Wraith enzyme? Not as much as Ford, but enough to give him strength to fight Ford.

Qasim
July 30th, 2005, 03:15 PM
Its possible but the wraith scowled so maybe he couldnt feed on Dex for some reason

LoveYouBaby
July 30th, 2005, 03:24 PM
We seriously need to find a weapon to use against Ford

Just as well "Super-Ford" isn't one of Anubis' Super-soldiers

prion
July 30th, 2005, 03:41 PM
The Wraith drones that corner McKay in "The Siege III" also had the smaller stunners. I don't understand why they don't just use the handheld stunners all the time instead of the massively oversized stunners introduced in "Rising," myself. Maybe the larger stunners deliver a more powerful charge or something. Though the larger ones are still ineffective against Ford and the smaller one was almost worthless against Dex, so it seems the Wraith's weapons all just suck in general. :p

Well, not sure where the gun came from, but it apparently has more than one setting (remember, Ronon told Sheppard that he was lucky it was set on stun). Anyway, Ronon's stunner sure looks a hecukva lot more painful if you're hit. Both Shepaprd and Major Lorne looked like they were in a lot of pain before they finally stopped seizing up and passed out. Poor Teyla looked like a rabbit hit by a car.

The Wraith guards look a bit silly with the hand-held stunners; the big guns just fit them better, and no matter, each one requires aiming and they're all single-shot, although maybe the big ones last longer. Gotta admit, alien weapons NEVER seem to run out of power while our heroes can run out of bullets (well, tough to do with a P90).

KundiSmack
July 30th, 2005, 04:24 PM
Well, regardless, I loved his weapon handling! It was great...especially his fighting skills against Ford! I was like damn! Especially since Ford has that Wraith power leverage...they were pretty evenly matched. Any clues on how Ronan managed to stop the Wraith from feeding on him? It seems as though there are genes that make a person immune to Wraith feeding...biological enhancement or was it that he was just a little more evolved?

john82410
July 30th, 2005, 09:50 PM
the prop at least looks like a modified revolver. maybe he has to load it with energy rounds or something. that would be cool.

Avenger
July 31st, 2005, 12:13 AM
I find Ronons planet looking more advance doesn't make sense. I am assuming the Wraith feeding ground is the entire Pegasus galaxy. They are supposed to cull the humans everyone 100 years. This allows the humans left from the last cull to reproduce back to sufficient numbers for the next feeding. So if that's true then every planet would never advance beyond 100 years after each cull. There society would have been so devastated who ever survives the cull will have to start all over again.

The planet might be off the charts, or in a less traveled part of the galaxy. The Wraith just might not have known about the planet.

White Knight
July 31st, 2005, 01:58 AM
You can deduce from Ronan's gun that he's been in skirmishes with ordinary humans, and expects to be in more;
If he's only fighting Wraith, then there'd be no reason for him to carry a weapon with a stun setting. But when he meets F.A.R.T. out in the forest, he's already got the equipment to take them down non-lethally. Which says that he's had to do so in the past.

davicta
July 31st, 2005, 03:05 AM
Maybe the wraith feeding on Ronon sense that he was more 'fit' to be runner. Because the wraith can sense the strength of a character before feeding upon them.

Hatcheter
July 31st, 2005, 03:25 AM
Any clues on how Ronan managed to stop the Wraith from feeding on him? It seems as though there are genes that make a person immune to Wraith feeding...biological enhancement or was it that he was just a little more evolved?

I believe 'Poisoning the Well' layed the groundwork for that. Perna discusses a man who was found to have a natural immunity to the Wraith feeding process. It was based on certain proteins in his system which, according to Beckett, prevented the wraith from releasing chemicals into the victim before feeding. I'm guessing that Ronan has the gene that produces the protein, and that it probably negates the strengthening enzyme, along with whatever else the Wraith try to do when feeding.

As Dex was obviously fit and capable, the Wraith decided to make him a Runner. Obviously, he was a very difficult one, killing Wraith who hunted him.

Blue007
July 31st, 2005, 03:44 AM
:D LOL! I knew there would be a gun thread appearing at some point...very cool, maybe I'll learn something here....clueless on guns except to know I could not shoot the broad side of a barn..no matter how big the gun was!!

Blue007
July 31st, 2005, 03:48 AM
I believe 'Poisoning the Well' layed the groundwork for that. Perna discusses a man who was found to have a natural immunity to the Wraith feeding process. It was based on certain proteins in his system which, according to Beckett, prevented the wraith from releasing chemicals into the victim before feeding. I'm guessing that Ronan has the gene that produces the protein, and that it probably negates the strengthening enzyme, along with whatever else the Wraith try to do when feeding.

As Dex was obviously fit and capable, the Wraith decided to make him a Runner. Obviously, he was a very difficult one, killing Wraith who hunted him.
Good to know. I was wondering too.

Unamed
July 31st, 2005, 03:55 AM
On the rifles used in the Seige of dex's planet, perhaps his planet fell into the domain of the Genii empire?? That would explain the weapons..

aAnubiSs
July 31st, 2005, 03:57 AM
Or the props department decided to save a few bucks for future episodes =)

valha'lla
July 31st, 2005, 07:00 AM
The planet might be off the charts, or in a less traveled part of the galaxy. The Wraith just might not have known about the planet.
Like the Gouald they cant keep an eye on the whole of their domain or feeding grounds and so planets could be left alone for more than one culling and people can move onto differnet plannets that the wraith think are uninhabitted. As for the rifle weapons mabey they are the klashnikove of the PG cheap and readly avialable that or one of the surivours of the Wraith attack on his home world moved to the genii plannet. That or when the surviours formed the genii some of thoes surviours went their own way and bumped into Ronan's civilisation.

TheCorpulent1
July 31st, 2005, 10:19 AM
Well, regardless, I loved his weapon handling! It was great...especially his fighting skills against Ford! I was like damn! Especially since Ford has that Wraith power leverage...they were pretty evenly matched. Any clues on how Ronan managed to stop the Wraith from feeding on him? It seems as though there are genes that make a person immune to Wraith feeding...biological enhancement or was it that he was just a little more evolved?
Yeah, that was pretty sweet. From what I understood, Ford probably had the physical advantage (despite the fact that JM looks like he's probably got about 30 lbs. on RSF) because of the enzyme, but Dex is so good from having to fend off Wraith for 7 years that his skills made up for it, making them roughly even.

As to why the Wraith couldn't feed on him, I still don't know. The preview for the next episode made it seem like Shep's gonna spend a good portion of it getting acquainted with Dex, so maybe we'll learn about it then.

Tnarg
July 31st, 2005, 11:29 AM
regarding the weapons he used on his homeplanet during the attack...

when shep and his team encountered the true Genii people they told him that before the wraith cullings the genni were a powerful empire of several planets linked via the stargates, I don't see why his planet could not ave been part of this geni domain, thus explaining the weapon.

and does anyone else notice that the genni pistols are the pistols used quite often on "the Outer Limits' which is also filmed in vancouver!

TheCorpulent1
July 31st, 2005, 12:28 PM
Well, they look cool and it saves money, so hey, why not? ;)

Unamed
July 31st, 2005, 03:43 PM
regarding the weapons he used on his homeplanet during the attack...

when shep and his team encountered the true Genii people they told him that before the wraith cullings the genni were a powerful empire of several planets linked via the stargates, I don't see why his planet could not ave been part of this geni domain, thus explaining the weapon.

and does anyone else notice that the genni pistols are the pistols used quite often on "the Outer Limits' which is also filmed in vancouver!
Exactly, and just as I said above! :D

Ancient 1
July 31st, 2005, 04:31 PM
Ronon's gun seems to be based on wraith tech, at first glance. :o He reminds me of the superior warrior race on Andromeda. (sorry, didn't watch that show enough to recall their name, but I remeber that this race originally betrayed Hunt, and he tool one on later on as a friend...in the salvage team...) Anyone? Oh, well. :o

AGateFan
July 31st, 2005, 06:36 PM
Ronon's gun seems to be based on wraith tech, at first glance. :o He reminds me of the superior warrior race on Andromeda. (sorry, didn't watch that show enough to recall their name, but I remeber that this race originally betrayed Hunt, and he tool one on later on as a friend...in the salvage team...) Anyone? Oh, well. :o

Nietzchean. The specific Niechian is TYR ANASAZI. But I think he actually took a shower once in a while. I dont think Dex has had much time with that.

Note the rifle used by the Genii and Dex was also used in the "Sci Fi orginal movie" Bloodsuckers.....so I guess Vancouver only has one prop department :p

KundiSmack
July 31st, 2005, 06:47 PM
Well, I'm sure the Wraith leave some planets out of the 100 years feeding routine to insure that they have food for the future. They let worlds develop for a couple hundred years and then they take the civilization developed on the cull. In between they probably just feed on the 100 year cull on designated planet.

Cycrow
July 31st, 2005, 07:04 PM
the refiles were also used in brotherhood, and they wern't part of the genii either

Xanderic
July 31st, 2005, 09:30 PM
I think Atteria created a weapon that could take out the Wraith. They sent a team to test out the weapon and that team wiped out the Wraith on another planet. However, the Wraith found out, culled them and found out that they were from Atteria and culled Atteria and left it in ultimate ruin. The Wraith-killing weapon was probably not in production yet.

As for Ronan's weapon, seeing as he is a weapons specialist and basically killed the Wraith hunting him, I'm pretty sure his gun is a mix between his world's technology and the Wraith's stunning technology. He probably knew about the Wraith-killing weapon but wasn't in the loop as to how to make it.

Lida
July 31st, 2005, 09:44 PM
Nietzchean. The specific Niechian is TYR ANASAZI. But I think he actually took a shower once in a while. I dont think Dex has had much time with that.

Note the rifle used by the Genii and Dex was also used in the "Sci Fi orginal movie" Bloodsuckers.....so I guess Vancouver only has one prop department :p

First, It's nice to know I wasn't the only idiot to watch that crapola movie Bloodsuckers! :D

Second, well, they recycled "stars" (Michael DeLuise and Aaron Pearl) from SG-1.

Third, Dex having been on the run for the past 7 years, has most surely "traded" with many cultures and probably acquired his gun from the Genii that way OR they acquired one from him, and used it as their prototype.

Fourth, I'm certain Dex will now shower regularly, as he no longer is being tracked by the Wraith and can stay in one place, without constantly having to be ready to "run" on a moments notice. In fact, at the end of the episdoe Runner, it looked like he had already cleaned up a bit. But check him out next week, same Dex time, same Dex channel! ;)

Oh, and Fifth, I believe it's spelled Nietzschean, after the German philosopher, critic and poet, originator of the doctrine of the superman. (not the comic :p )

immhotep
August 2nd, 2005, 03:47 AM
ronans gun is an intar, the crystel is like the thing on the bottom of the rule of engagment things.

TheCorpulent1
August 2nd, 2005, 06:34 AM
Hmm... maybe there are some Goa'uld or Jaffa floating around the Pegasus galaxy trading intar tech. Or maybe it's another case of parallel development.

White Knight
August 2nd, 2005, 11:36 PM
If you go to Pegasus Galaxy (http://www.pegasusgalaxy.com), and watch the preview of Duet, you can see Ronon using what appears to be the weapon's 'kill' setting; it fired a red energy blast - similar to the stun blast - and smashed through a target on the Atlantis firing range. Its probably also worth mentioning that he hit the target smack-bang in the chest area.

Xanderic
August 3rd, 2005, 01:38 AM
I think that's how powerful the gun is... powerful enough to stun and kill the Wraith

whatswiththehairtealc
August 3rd, 2005, 07:34 AM
Or the props department decided to save a few bucks for future episodes =)

lol, i think your correct. do you guys ever wonder if the producers get in to the shows ins and outs like we do. i mean do you ever think one of the producers or continuity guys is like," uh no no, we cant use that here. that was in ep 3 scene 5 and if we use it, there is going to be an internet conspiracy on how the two are related"


IMO... it would be cool if Dex got his weapon from the genii, but i'm chalking it up to the show saving money and hopping we wouldn't notice. nothing gets past us!!

oh and i thought the genii don't like to reveal their advanced exsistance to others. so do you really think they would be tradding weapons?

jons242
August 3rd, 2005, 10:35 AM
lol, i think your correct. do you guys ever wonder if the producers get in to the shows ins and outs like we do. i mean do you ever think one of the producers or continuity guys is like," uh no no, we cant use that here. that was in ep 3 scene 5 and if we use it, there is going to be an internet conspiracy on how the two are related"


IMO... it would be cool if Dex got his weapon from the genii, but i'm chalking it up to the show saving money and hopping we wouldn't notice. nothing gets past us!!

oh and i thought the genii don't like to reveal their advanced exsistance to others. so do you really think they would be tradding weapons?

It wouldn't make sense for Ronon to get his gun from the genii. The genii are not advance enough to make such a weapon. They couldn't build a atomic bomb without Mackay's help. For the genii to be able to build energy base weapons would mean they are more advance than us cause we don't have energy base weapons.

Xanderic
August 3rd, 2005, 11:04 AM
the 3holed guns could have been primitive ancient tech ya know... cuz The Brotherhood, the Genii, and Ronan's planet have the 3-holed guns.

immhotep
August 3rd, 2005, 11:58 AM
er i think they are all genii built,or maybe another secret race that we have yet to encounter, or primitive ancient weapons left behind; oh and btw we have rail guns, which is a kinda of energy weapon, also all weapons use energy so technically all weapons are energy weapons, u probebly mean plasma weapons though.

HarSins
August 3rd, 2005, 12:21 PM
*cough* No hand held human projectile weapons (guns) use energy to expell the bullets. It's from gunpowder....

jons242
August 3rd, 2005, 12:32 PM
I don't know why people think the genii are such an advance race of people. You’re talking about a society who isn't smart enough to realize that radiation is harmful to humans.

valha'lla
August 3rd, 2005, 12:48 PM
*cough* No hand held human projectile weapons (guns) use energy to expell the bullets. It's from gunpowder....
He means that they use energy to inflict damage all projectile weapons use kinetic energy to cause damage on impact and also the gunpowder gives of energy when set of to propell the projectile.
Any way the three whole gun could be design thing cause wraith can survive alot of damage and this weapon is like a mini chain gun firing one barle after the other so it could be just a design that can diliver alot of damage but is still practicle to be used like a standard asult rifle rather than like an actual chain gun which can not be shouldered.

jons242
August 3rd, 2005, 12:52 PM
er i think they are all genii built,or maybe another secret race that we have yet to encounter, or primitive ancient weapons left behind; oh and btw we have rail guns, which is a kinda of energy weapon, also all weapons use energy so technically all weapons are energy weapons, u probebly mean plasma weapons though.

Well energy based weapons are plasma weapons. Modern weapons are usually either projectile or explosive, bullets, missiles, cannons, grenades, and bombs. We also have chemical weapons like nerve gas, biological weapons like anthrax, and nuclear weapons. A rail gun is not a energy weapon, it's an electromagnetic cannon that fires small projectiles at very high velocities.

valha'lla
August 3rd, 2005, 01:01 PM
Not just plasma as weapons such as the ancient satilite weapon do not use plasma.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
November 26th, 2005, 08:14 PM
I am looking for a sound effect of Ronan's Gun shooting and reloading. If you have a video clip of this, don't extract the sound, just upload it and post it here.

jsw
March 11th, 2006, 02:10 PM
anyone else curious as to how he go it the weapon is pretty advanced. when they show flashbacks of his time on sateda the weapons were on par with the geni. I would love to know where ronan got that gun that kill's wraith so easily

AtlantisForever
March 11th, 2006, 02:20 PM
anyone else curious as to how he go it the weapon is pretty advanced. when they show flashbacks of his time on sateda the weapons were on par with the geni. I would love to know where ronan got that gun that kill's wraith so easily


lol i no i want 1

vaberella
March 11th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Ebay?

Actually I've been thinking that his gun came probably from the Asurans..who wanted to eliminate the wraith.that we'll see in season 3? Their like rogue Atlanteans that didn't ascend. But then I think Teyla was another super human creation to kill the wraith as well...

And I'd like one too..next to about 4 of his knives.

VB

eri-chan
March 12th, 2006, 01:20 AM
lol yeah he probaby got it off ebay or something :weir40:

hmmm i always assumed that his gun came from sateda :beckettanime14: at the same time, i don't entirely remember what sateda looked like... we'll probably see how advanced sateda was in 'sateda' though. hmm remember ronon's meant to be a weapons specialist too.

Wraith Scientist
March 12th, 2006, 10:33 AM
Yeah, I'd say it came from Sadata. If you look closely the 'primative'-looking rifles that the Sadatans are are using shoot the same red energy bolts as ronon's gun. The Sadatans must have been advanced enough to create energy weapons (and so they got culled before they could get too dangerous).

Lord Zedd
March 12th, 2006, 12:21 PM
What I don't understand is that his people used the guns of the Geni ??? :confused: It is explained in the episode Runner. It was in a flashback. And he woar also a strange kind of costume :) but his hand gun looks totally different than the one he had in the flashback

Wraith Scientist
March 12th, 2006, 12:37 PM
They weren't Genii guns, they looked like the Genii guns, but fired red energy bolts. Here's an omnipedia entry: Sadatan Rifle (http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/technology/links/satedanrifle.shtml). His pistol is just a smaller version.

knowsfords
March 13th, 2006, 03:56 AM
I still maintain that ronan modified a normal gun to shoot the pulses ALA intar tech.

vaberella
March 13th, 2006, 07:28 AM
I still maintain that ronan modified a normal gun to shoot the pulses ALA intar tech.

:S :confused: What language is this? So I can respond. (I usually feel a bit out of whack when Tech is talked..I love the forum for it, I just can't discuss) but what is an ALA? Intar? I got tech. :D

VB

Wraith Scientist
March 13th, 2006, 08:13 AM
An Intar (http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/technology/links/intar.shtml) is a weapon that jaffa use in training. They look like modified human weapons that fire red bolts of energy that stun.

vaberella
March 13th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Thanks WS....now that I know what that is..

Ronon would have to seriously modify the Intar to get his gun. It has like several levels...and the Intar is like only red pulses, but youd' have to fire a few times to get your guy stunned. Ronon needs one shot and it's a shot that seems to hurt, to take you out...remember what it did to John in Conversion? Imagine that blast on a normal person. And then you turn it around and it can shoot your head off, or take out an organ in your stomach. How does an Intar compare, when all they have in common is red pulse (and only during stun)?


An Intar (http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/technology/links/intar.shtml) is a weapon that jaffa use in training. They look like modified human weapons that fire red bolts of energy that stun.

Maybe it could be modified human weapon but can't we just say that it's specific to his people or possibly inherited by a group of Aliens or people still unknown to us? I just don't see the Intar or human weaponry as being a good enough explanation to the style of Ronon's gun. His gun is like 'Dirty Harry' x1000.

VB

Lord Zedd
March 13th, 2006, 02:57 PM
:S :confused: What language is this? So I can respond. (I usually feel a bit out of whack when Tech is talked..I love the forum for it, I just can't discuss) but what is an ALA? Intar? I got tech. :D

VB
ALA is a synonym for the word: "like" and Intar are bullets that are used in the episode Rules of Engagement ! They stun you, they don't kill you.

vaberella
March 13th, 2006, 03:07 PM
ALA is a synonym for the word: "like" and Intar are bullets that are used in the episode Rules of Engagement ! They stun you, they don't kill you.

dude they were all in caps...I know what 'ala' means..I just thought this was someting like when people mention ATA gene and it's an acronym for a term.
Yeah read that in the link I was given by WS..thanks _Anubis.

Blue007
March 13th, 2006, 03:39 PM
lol yeah he probaby got it off ebay or something :weir40:

hmmm i always assumed that his gun came from sateda :beckettanime14: at the same time, i don't entirely remember what sateda looked like... we'll probably see how advanced sateda was in 'sateda' though. hmm remember ronon's meant to be a weapons specialist too.

Agree. Dex is a weapons specialist, I bet he modified it to suite his needs. :D

vaberella
March 13th, 2006, 03:44 PM
Agree. Dex is a weapons specialist, I bet he modified it to suite his needs. :D

Okay when I read weapons specialist, I thought it was in using guns--a wide variety. :confused: As seen in 'Duet'. Didn't know the guy was a gun builder as well. Or are we reading 'weapons specialist' wrong?

And when did they say he was a weapons specialist...can someone give me a link or something. I just remember him in 'Runner' saying Specialist Ronon Dex, name and rank. I didn't know he specifically said he specialized in weaponry.

By the way this helps along my fanfic hence the reason I need to get these minute details cleared up.

VB

eri-chan
March 14th, 2006, 03:27 AM
actually good point. sometimes i don't pay attention to all the words on a screen... and ive seen a few people mention he was a weapons specialist. i certainly know he's a specialist... but of what? since i saw 'weapons specialist' floating around here, i assumed that was canon.

maybe he was called that coz wasnt ford meant to be some weapons expert? and to some he's the convenient replacement. at the same time, he does have a sword and some cute claws. and i keep on remembering duet was it? when shep was showing him the weaponry. hes quite the marksman. :ronan:

*runs off with the faries*

Blue007
March 14th, 2006, 07:15 AM
Okay when I read weapons specialist, I thought it was in using guns--a wide variety. :confused: As seen in 'Duet'. Didn't know the guy was a gun builder as well. Or are we reading 'weapons specialist' wrong?

And when did they say he was a weapons specialist...can someone give me a link or something. I just remember him in 'Runner' saying Specialist Ronon Dex, name and rank. I didn't know he specifically said he specialized in weaponry.

By the way this helps along my fanfic hence the reason I need to get these minute details cleared up.

VB

I too thought that it was just Specialist....in Runner, rewatching it, and also in a few other short snips of the shows...Weapons Specialist came up....I will check again just to be sure of the facts, and not just remembering from "reading" it as Weapons Specialist. :)

ancientaction
March 14th, 2006, 07:32 AM
his race was advanced. the wraith found that they advanced. culled what they could, and desimated his plannet.

vaberella
March 14th, 2006, 09:14 AM
I too thought that it was just Specialist....in Runner, rewatching it, and also in a few other short snips of the shows...Weapons Specialist came up....I will check again just to be sure of the facts, and not just remembering from "reading" it as Weapons Specialist. :)


Please if you can get that info it would be much appreciated. I've never seen it said, and I'm usually careful about what is said on the eps...especially when writing my fics. As I've never seen weapons involved with his term specialist I wasn't sure if that was correct.

As a Specialist..he could have been a strategist in military battle, and from what I saw in 'Runner' he seemed to be the ones giving the orders to the guys in his jurisdiction. Being a marksman doesn't necessarily make you a specialist...as many soldiers are amazing marksmen.

Again just need some clarification.

VB

GateLadyM
March 14th, 2006, 09:32 AM
Ronon's official bio says:

Ronon Dex is a man of around 25 to 30 years. His homeworld was culled by the Wraith and all but a handful of his people were killed. Ronon is a soldier, having served in a military regiment on his former homeworld. He is also a weapon expert, has a dry sense of humour and is not afraid to speak his mind.

The Gateworld Character Description says:

Once a military soldier on the planet Sateda, Specialist Ronon Dex became a runner when the Wraith took him from his home.

All I've heard in canon is "Specialist" during the episode "Runner", but what sort of specialist hasn't been said, I don't think. I think its safe to say he is quite a weapons expert though, and he could easily have modified a gun to his liking. :)

Lida
March 14th, 2006, 09:35 AM
Aw, come on, we all know where Ronon got his gun......from the prop department. Sorry, I had to say it. Mea culpa, mea culpa.......:ronananime16:

vaberella
March 14th, 2006, 09:51 AM
Aw, come on, we all know where Ronon got his gun......from the prop department. Sorry, I had to say it. Mea culpa, mea culpa.......:ronananime16:

:eek: Hahhahaa!! Too true... that is one of the coolest props I've seen....well next to the different knives he had..their pretty hot too!:D
VB

Adamus
March 15th, 2006, 09:41 AM
the rifle that we see in one of ronans flashbacks looks like the genii rifles so that cud mean that Sateda was part of the Genii Confederation and when they got seperated the Satedans developed new tech like ronans gun

Adamus
March 15th, 2006, 09:45 AM
or maybe the wraith developed it but it was useless to them because it damaged their food so they gave it to the runners to make the chase more interesting if they could defens themselves
:tealcanime23:

generaloneill
March 20th, 2006, 02:16 PM
What I don't understand is that his people used the guns of the Geni ??? :confused: It is explained in the episode Runner. It was in a flashback. And he woar also a strange kind of costume :) but his hand gun looks totally different than the one he had in the flashback

maybe ronon's people traded with the genii or raided a genii underground fortress and stole the weapons.:ronan:

2ndgenerationalteran
March 22nd, 2006, 03:55 PM
maybe ronon's people traded with the genii or raided a genii underground fortress and stole the weapons.:ronan:

not very plausible because the genni weapons are projectile, when the wraith first attacked 10,000 years ago lots of the civilizations were very advanced, the athosians had that city, and cool fire thing. dorandans had that awesome cannon, i think he went to a ruin and found it and kept it.

Avenger
March 22nd, 2006, 09:37 PM
So he found some random, really old gun just sitting somewhere, picked it up and it worked? That makes no sense at all.

eri-chan
March 22nd, 2006, 11:48 PM
hmmmmmmm he was satedan military...

when i think about it.... he was captured by the wraith so he would have been stripped of his weapons. then they made him a runner. maybe the wraith gave him the weapon so he's more fun game? i still like to think that his gun's satedan but hmmm how the heck did he get his gun? all this time posting in this thread and it never hit me :mckay:

he only went to a village once and we'll see that in sateda so how else could he have gotten his gun? unless he hid it on him like he did with all the cool knives :ronan:

generaloneill
March 23rd, 2006, 04:12 AM
not very plausible because the genni weapons are projectile, when the wraith first attacked 10,000 years ago lots of the civilizations were very advanced, the athosians had that city, and cool fire thing. dorandans had that awesome cannon, i think he went to a ruin and found it and kept it.

the genii often steal from other races when the need arises maybe that's how they came into possession of ronon's gun and one day ronon came across one of their weapons warehouses knocked out all the guards and went through the boxes and found the gun.:ronan:

prion
March 23rd, 2006, 09:35 AM
anyone else curious as to how he go it the weapon is pretty advanced. when they show flashbacks of his time on sateda the weapons were on par with the geni. I would love to know where ronan got that gun that kill's wraith so easily

I suspect he got it at "S-Mart," yes, that massive box store that once took up lots of space and drove the smaller military supply stores out of business, on Sateda. S-mart, similar to Walmart, sold these weapons by the gross, but alas, when the Wraith came, all the S-marts got obliterated (along with the factories that made them), so, that's it for getting more weapons like Ronon carries.

;);)

2ndgenerationalteran
March 23rd, 2006, 10:43 PM
well cmon sg1 perserved video camera 5 thousand years in a vacume sealed canopic jar. he could have stumbled on a advanced ruin where it hasnt been touched in a while. or he could have traded with explorers, or could have killed one.

Steve_the_Wraith
March 24th, 2006, 03:31 AM
not very plausible because the genni weapons are projectile, when the wraith first attacked 10,000 years ago lots of the civilizations were very advanced, the athosians had that city, and cool fire thing. dorandans had that awesome cannon, i think he went to a ruin and found it and kept it.
I agree.

Some people say its impossible for him to just find a really old gun lying around that still works.
By that Logic nothing in Atlantis would work -its Millions of years old

generaloneill
June 2nd, 2006, 01:43 PM
ca someone help me get some high quality pictures of ronon's gun because i have looked up and down on the internet with no luck. it's getting annoying at this point because a friend of mine who builds things as a hobby said he would build one for me if i could get some pics of it for him. any help would be greatly appreciated. :sheppard:

Naonak
June 2nd, 2006, 01:54 PM
There's a small pic on the Gateworld Omnipedia. Just type "Ronon" and "gun" into the searchbar. Don't know if it'll help, but it's pretty clear.

vaberella
June 2nd, 2006, 02:57 PM
Here is the best that I can do....most of them come from screen caps of Runner, but the last one is a back view, which came from The Long Goodbye.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/vaberella/runner_203.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/vaberella/runner_197.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/vaberella/runner_196.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/vaberella/2x16_0764.jpg

Hope that helps. You can see a pretty good outline in the first three, felt the last one to get the back view....I don't have the other side view, couldn't find one.

Dr. Who
June 2nd, 2006, 03:02 PM
http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/technology/graphics/rononsgun.jpg
this from the Omnipedia. Good view of one side.:ronananime16:

vaberella
June 2nd, 2006, 03:34 PM
Oh just wanted to mention...that there's a switch which can't be seen in the pics...I don't know if you remember. But the switch changes it from stun to like obliterate. :D But there might be a switch for 3 settings, because if you check out the nozzle of the gun there are 3 openings.

generaloneill
June 2nd, 2006, 06:20 PM
thanks to everyone who supplied the pics much appreciated :jack:

Pharaoh Atem
June 2nd, 2006, 06:53 PM
Oh just wanted to mention...that there's a switch which can't be seen in the pics...I don't know if you remember. But the switch changes it from stun to like obliterate. :D But there might be a switch for 3 settings, because if you check out the nozzle of the gun there are 3 openings.

:cool:stun
:)screwed
:Dobliterate

vaberella
June 2nd, 2006, 08:17 PM
thanks to everyone who supplied the pics much appreciated :jack:
Hey GO, no problem. Can you show us the pics of when the gun model is done?! I'd really like to see the sort of real life look of it.:ronan:


:cool:stun
:)screwed
:Dobliterate
You just might be right! :D I really would prefer the stun--awesome! I like Ronon--except in Allies--but I still like him! :D :ronan: Cool ass character with a gosh darned excellent gun.

VB

Alipeeps
June 3rd, 2006, 05:40 AM
Pretty good close-up of the gun here from one of the TLG promo stills:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f260/Alipeeps/SGA/RononGun.jpg

Stevo
June 3rd, 2006, 08:19 AM
it reminds me of the intarr weapons

generaloneill
June 3rd, 2006, 10:41 AM
Hey GO, no problem. Can you show us the pics of when the gun model is done?! I'd really like to see the sort of real life look of it.:ronan:


You just might be right! :D I really would prefer the stun--awesome! I like Ronon--except in Allies--but I still like him! :D :ronan: Cool ass character with a gosh darned excellent gun.

VB

i'll try to show some pictures when my friend completes it he recently went on a year long holiday i'll be meeting him in a few months and i'll give him the pics and he will have a go at it. he said depending on what it looks like he may be able to do it if he is able to do it i will post pics for you to see.

Alor
August 16th, 2006, 10:27 PM
it reminds me of the intarr weapons

Yeah when i first say him get Sheppard with it in runner i was like Huh? who the hell has one of those out here

Alor
August 16th, 2006, 10:56 PM
Its not from Sateda i'm pretty sure, the wraith would have taken his stuff before letting him run, I don't think he found it in a Geni secret bunker or anything like that. What idiot Geni would put it in a box and not on his belt. Also i dout it has anything to do with the wraith. And i don't think ronan made it, or moded up some gun he had. Its not any kind of ancient design either, they always seem to use Blue instead of Red. The only half decent explanation is the 'old ruin'. But still the advanced race that built haven't lost any of their other weapons anywhere in pegasus or at least no where that SGA has been yet. maybe they will find the planet he got it from and discover a conveniant way to kill the replicators After they get the wraith that is. But all in all its a mystery that might never get solved.

[SGC_ReplicĂ…tors]
August 16th, 2006, 11:03 PM
so it comes down to...

A) Found it lying there while he was a runner...
B) He made it
C) Satedan teck <---highly doubt it


anymroe?

Alor
August 16th, 2006, 11:19 PM
I hope this is what your looking for.........

Ronan Setting to stun (http://www.freewebs.com/porn-ninja/ronanshot_0001.wmv)

Ronan SHooting (http://www.freewebs.com/porn-ninja/ronanshot_0002.wmv)

Sicktem
August 17th, 2006, 12:54 AM
He made a highly advanced and powerful gun after his planet was attacked, but did not think to make it before hand so that his planet's entire army could benefit from a more advanced gun to carry on their belts when the Wraith invaded?

IcarusAbides
October 13th, 2007, 05:38 PM
Anyone have any ideas on where ronin got his gun from, its clearly not Setedan standard issue, someone said to me that they thought a friend of his made it for him and that its a one of a kind.

Any other ideas about how he got it out there?

KiLL3r
October 13th, 2007, 05:41 PM
its definitely the coolest gun outta both sg1 and sga series

Alipeeps
October 13th, 2007, 06:20 PM
We will find out more about the history behind Ronon's gun later this season. Not sure exactly in which ep but I suspect it may be in Travelers (there are several pictures/clips of Larrin using the same type of gun as Ronon has).

Prometheus 1
October 13th, 2007, 06:25 PM
We will find out more about the history behind Ronon's gun later this season. Not sure exactly in which ep but I suspect it may be in Travelers (there are several pictures/clips of Larrin using the same type of gun as Ronon has).

awesome. out of every gun i've seen on scifi shows, Ronons is the best. i really want one for myself. i have a feeling that maybe Ronon has encountered the Travelers before....

Jumper_One
October 13th, 2007, 06:28 PM
since he was a runner for quite a while I'm guessing he got it on some random planet he tried to 'hide'. would make sense right?

Ltcolshepjumper
October 13th, 2007, 06:34 PM
I do have a feeling that Ronon's gun may belong to the Travelers.

Forgottensmoke
October 14th, 2007, 01:14 AM
Has anybody else realised that sometimes when ronon fires his gun it has massive recoil (go upwards) and others its just still

Anubis-
October 14th, 2007, 04:49 AM
Where Ronon got bullets to his gun?

SGFerrit
October 14th, 2007, 05:54 AM
I don't think energy guns have bullets as such. It likely has a long lasting power cell, like the crystals from staff weapons.

Anubis-
October 14th, 2007, 05:57 AM
I don't think energy guns have bullets as such. It likely has a long lasting power cell, like the crystals from staff weapons.

In season 2, episode 7, named Instinct we really see, that Ronon load his gun, but it can be also somekind power cell etc.

Vala_M
October 14th, 2007, 06:11 AM
I don't think energy guns have bullets as such. It likely has a long lasting power cell, like the crystals from staff weapons.

It has replacable power cells that are like half-circles in the back, I saw a schematic for it at the Vancouver convention this year. How he would get replacement ones, I don't know.

Vala,

Alipeeps
October 14th, 2007, 08:36 AM
awesome. out of every gun i've seen on scifi shows, Ronons is the best. i really want one for myself. i have a feeling that maybe Ronon has encountered the Travelers before....

I think it's more likely the Travelers scavenged one or more of these guns from the same place Ronon got his (this is what the Travelers do.. they live on ships and travel from world to world, trading or scavenging for technology).

Lahela
October 27th, 2007, 05:47 AM
Joining this discussion a bit late, but this is from MGM I think... or could be Skiffy... I'll see if I can find the site later...

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/lilyjammer/th_rononsgun.jpg (http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/lilyjammer/rononsgun.jpg)

jons242
October 27th, 2007, 10:38 AM
I think it's more likely the Travelers scavenged one or more of these guns from the same place Ronon got his (this is what the Travelers do.. they live on ships and travel from world to world, trading or scavenging for technology).

What makes you think the Travelers didn't invent that gun and Ronon took it off one of them? The Travelers are so far the most advance society encountered in the Pegasus galaxy

Major_Griff
October 27th, 2007, 11:19 AM
It would have been nice at the end of the episode if Ronon gave some recognition that he had met the Travelers before while he was a runner. If he stole the gun from them he would know who they were and it would be nice if Ronon had a bit of a Rivalry with them to add more tension (other than the UST between Shep and Larin) to our next meeting with them.

Forgottensmoke
January 14th, 2008, 06:55 AM
I wonder what the Origin of Ronon's gun is. Could it be a design from a race that was around when the ancients were dominent and let other races advance? I dont think its the Travelers design because they use ammo ronon's doesnt. (If it did he would be out of ammo cause doesnt look like he has spare nothing suggests it)

ijffdrie
January 14th, 2008, 07:19 AM
i think the satedans are travelers who had to stay behind becuase there was not enough room on the ships

umopapisdn
January 14th, 2008, 07:24 AM
It is definitely Ronans gun, Sheppard said so. How do you know the Satedans were travellers, they didn'thave those weopons they had those triple barreled riffles. Perhaps some of the people went to live with the satedans but we don't know.

ijffdrie
January 14th, 2008, 07:42 AM
those were the genii

Vala_M
January 14th, 2008, 09:11 AM
The Travelers invented Ronon's gun, how Ronon came to have one, we don't know.

Vala,

Archaeis
January 14th, 2008, 11:00 AM
The point of this post is that The travellers had little battery packs that they replaced in their guns several times throughout the episode. We have never seen Ronon's gun need any reloading.

Opener
January 14th, 2008, 11:06 AM
According to this, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscellaneous_technology_in_Stargate#Travelers_Energy_Pistol_.28Ronon.27s_Gun.29 ) the cylinder is the ammo.

The Prophet
January 14th, 2008, 11:06 AM
I suppose there are variants between the technologies, just as there are slight variants between fire arms on Earth. Possibly the Satedans (?) were able to develop a power-cell that has a long-life capability, possibly nuclear? Whist the Travelers had to make do with using more conventional power-cells.

With the amount of trading that apparently takes place in the Pegasus galaxy, it'd stand to reason that probably many cultures use similar fire-arms such as Ronan's, with slight modifications and differences. Possibly each culture has modified the fire-arm with each trade, and it's really been developed by numerous cultures over time.

Archaeis
January 14th, 2008, 11:07 AM
According to this, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscellaneous_technology_in_Stargate#Travelers_Energy_Pistol_.28Ronon.27s_Gun.29 ) the cylinder is the ammo.


Yes, a type of battery pack or something. But in all the times we have seen Ronon use his gun, he has never had to replace it. They are obviously of the same design, but it's a curious point.

Opener
January 14th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Well if Prophet's onto something it would explain why we never see him reload. Besides, he has other weapons to use on the Wraith.*sliceslice*

Durgia
January 14th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Actually Ronon's gun needs ammo, he carried a ton of them in a bag with them in one of the early episodes.

The writers have hinted that the little ammo things are self recharging. No idea how but ya.

Wraith_Boy
January 14th, 2008, 01:21 PM
The point of this post is that The travellers had little battery packs that they replaced in their guns several times throughout the episode. We have never seen Ronon's gun need any reloading.

Actually we have seen Ronon run out of ammo before. He flips it open & dispenses the old cartridge!

Teelie
January 14th, 2008, 06:38 PM
I sort of remember seeing that but would have to go and watch again to make sure. The reloading of ammo is almost a moot point though. How often did/do we see the SG-1/SG-A teams reloading their guns? It seems more often than not that they go a long time without having to reload when they reload. If Ronon's weapon has a much longer and better ammo/firing capacity then it would make sense that he's rarely need a replacement charge.

Ripple in Space
January 14th, 2008, 06:43 PM
I sort of remember seeing that but would have to go and watch again to make sure. The reloading of ammo is almost a moot point though. How often did/do we see the SG-1/SG-A teams reloading their guns? It seems more often than not that they go a long time without having to reload when they reload. If Ronon's weapon has a much longer and better ammo/firing capacity then it would make sense that he's rarely need a replacement charge.

seriously? SG-1 regularly mentioned limited ammo when pinned down...

Teelie
January 14th, 2008, 06:45 PM
Mentioned limited ammo but we rarely saw them change ammo, and besides it's been a while since I saw any SG-1 where that happened. Though your comment brings up the point of how often do we see Ronon firing his weapon compared to the others? He might appear to fire a lot but that's one "bullet" compared to the 1-3 or more per shot (often repeatedly in bursts) of the other SG-A members who fire much more frequently.

maylet
January 14th, 2008, 07:40 PM
The Travelers invented Ronon's gun, how Ronon came to have one, we don't know.

Vala,

That's true

Opener
January 14th, 2008, 10:27 PM
I sort of remember seeing that but would have to go and watch again to make sure. The reloading of ammo is almost a moot point though. How often did/do we see the SG-1/SG-A teams reloading their guns? It seems more often than not that they go a long time without having to reload when they reload. If Ronon's weapon has a much longer and better ammo/firing capacity then it would make sense that he's rarely need a replacement charge.
seriously? SG-1 regularly mentioned limited ammo when pinned down...
Also keep in mind time compression in the episodes in mind. We don't see everything the team does as they do it, otherwise episodes would last weeks. They change mags when they're on the move from one place to another, or when they get a moment.

What episode was it that had Ronon changing the cylinder? It's right on the tip of my brain.

PG15
January 14th, 2008, 10:54 PM
I think it was either Duet or Condemned.

AltarLeader
January 14th, 2008, 11:38 PM
i agree with "Wraith_Boy" i do remember Ronon flipping out ammo and about the origins of the gun Ronon was a runner for how many years he could have run in to the travelers at some point and traded/ stole one of there weapons because they are much better than Satedans standard weaponry.

Forgottensmoke
January 15th, 2008, 05:02 AM
i dont see what suggests other satedans have even seen the gun let alone made a power source for it but yeah i get the idea (he hardly shoots) and his ammo (reloads) also are the travelers even capable of making guns like this or did they find like a cargo ship full. ask yourself this

Vala_M
January 15th, 2008, 09:01 AM
He changes the cylinder in "Instinct".

Vala,

Carter1994
January 15th, 2008, 12:00 PM
i think the satedans are travelers who had to stay behind becuase there was not enough room on the ships

I suppose there are variants between the technologies, just as there are slight variants between fire arms on Earth. Possibly the Satedans (?) were able to develop a power-cell that has a long-life capability, possibly nuclear? Whist the Travelers had to make do with using more conventional power-cells.

In the episode Sateda, Ronon has flashbacks of the wraith attack. He, and the rest of his squad, have guns similar to a shotgun. Well, I suppose, I'm not really a gun expert. But anyway, none of the Satedans have guns even remotely similar to the type Ronon carries now, so our little gun friend is most likely, if not definately, not from Sateda.

The Prophet
January 16th, 2008, 09:49 AM
In the episode Sateda, Ronon has flashbacks of the wraith attack. He, and the rest of his squad, have guns similar to a shotgun. Well, I suppose, I'm not really a gun expert. But anyway, none of the Satedans have guns even remotely similar to the type Ronon carries now, so our little gun friend is most likely, if not definately, not from Sateda.

Maybe it's not a practical gun for Planetary attacks, the Wraith were primarily using Darts, backed up by a few footsoldiers, a handgun woudn't be much use for the majority of the Satedan soldiers, but perhaps Ronan prefers to use it. Soldiers don't use all varieties of weapons in war, they're designed for specific purposes.

Wraith_Boy
January 16th, 2008, 11:29 AM
I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that it isn't a Satedan weapon.

If it was Satedan, then why isn't everybody on Atlantis using them as sidearms along with P90's now, instead of being forced to use handguns with 15 shots or whatever before needing to reload.

In 'Runner' we see flashbacks, all projectile weapons. In 'Sateda' he goes into one of their armouries & comes out with projectile weapons again.

In JM's blog back in Oct. Someone asks him will we see the origins of Ronon's gun. He says yes, stay tuned. Less than a couple weeks later, we see something regarding this exact story....

In 'Travelers' we see them guns being used by every member of the new race, even a comment from Shep about them to Larrin!

Ergo, he managed at some point to get a hold of one of the Traveler guns!

1 of 2 things:

1) He was on a planet, a Traveler came down to do business. He traded or done a job for them. So they gave him a gun as payment.

2) He managed to get hold of it indirectly. A Traveler came down, done business, they traded food for weapons or whatever. Ronon came along much later on. Traded, done a job for the villagers, his payment was the gun. Heck maybe he even stole it from them. Maybe he was Running, came to a planet in which a Traveler ship had been to in the past. Maybe a trading party was on the ground, they came under attack from the Wraith. The ground party fled & dropped everything to get back to their ship. Maybe one or all were killed. Ronon came, then found the gun lying on them etc.

We've seen Satedan weapons being used in a couple of different ocassions now. They've always been projectile. Even on the second ep, he's alone, at an armoury & is forced to use projectile weapons. Which doesn't make sense, since he kept on needing to throw them away & move on to another every few shots. Surely if energy weapons with a much great shot capacity are around. That's the first place he would head to get hold of them.

Not to mention Atlantis personnel wouldn't be running around using Beretta's or whatever as back-up weapons. Such as in 'Aurora', even 'Submersion' or in the very latest ep, 'Spoils of War'.

Obviously the gun is a Traveler weapon & Ronon managed to get hold of it at some point using one of the methods I mentioned above.

Vala_M
January 16th, 2008, 12:14 PM
Maybe it's not a practical gun for Planetary attacks, the Wraith were primarily using Darts, backed up by a few footsoldiers, a handgun woudn't be much use for the majority of the Satedan soldiers, but perhaps Ronan prefers to use it. Soldiers don't use all varieties of weapons in war, they're designed for specific purposes.

The Satedans were at 1940's level technology, they did even have video broadcasts, only radio, did Earth in the 1940's have energy pistols? I think not. The gun is obviously a Travelers weapon. Sheppard even made a comment about it proves the point as was stated earlier in the thread.

Vala,

The Prophet
January 16th, 2008, 12:37 PM
The Satedans were at 1940's level technology, they did even have video broadcasts, only radio, did Earth in the 1940's have energy pistols? I think not. The gun is obviously a Travelers weapon. Sheppard even made a comment about it proves the point as was stated earlier in the thread.

Vala,

Because, all planets technologically progress in the exact same way as Earth did. And, he said they were the same, it doesn't mean Ronan procured it off the Travelers, just that Sheppard assumed that he did.

Vala_M
January 16th, 2008, 02:11 PM
Because, all planets technologically progress in the exact same way as Earth did. And, he said they were the same, it doesn't mean Ronan procured it off the Travelers, just that Sheppard assumed that he did.

I know that not all planets progress the same way but why would a 1940's area culture have energy weapons? That would be like people today having real puddle jumpers, it doesn't work that way. Or like a medieval society having computers.

Vala,

nosaj
January 17th, 2008, 11:17 AM
I think its made pretty clear that its a traveller weapon. also they mention that they land the ships when they need to make repairs so ronan could have come accross a dead traveller who was killed in a wraith attack and taken it as he avoided going into highly populated areas while he was a runner, as you see at the start of Seteda when he goes into the town who want to kill him.

I too questioned his reload capabilities but i didnt remember that he did reload in an episode. We can safely say that it is a Traveller weapon considering they all have it as a standard issue sidearm

Forgottensmoke
January 18th, 2008, 04:58 AM
Would it not be possible to use the asgard matterdevice to create more (Traveller Guns) and ammo that would be pretty cool cept ronan may aswell use a p90 now ;p or they could incorporate the guns into p90 and shoot 50 really faster energy bolts that would be better or continuous energy bolts

Vala_M
January 18th, 2008, 10:16 AM
Would it not be possible to use the asgard matterdevice to create more (Traveller Guns) and ammo that would be pretty cool cept ronan may aswell use a p90 now ;p or they could incorporate the guns into p90 and shoot 50 really faster energy bolts that would be better or continuous energy bolts

Yes, they could, but they won't for the same reason they don't use it to make ZPM's or drones.

Vala,

Admiral Mappalazarou
January 18th, 2008, 10:24 AM
I wonder what the Origin of Ronon's gun is. Could it be a design from a race that was around when the ancients were dominent and let other races advance? I dont think its the Travelers design because they use ammo ronon's doesnt. (If it did he would be out of ammo cause doesnt look like he has spare nothing suggests it)

Bit of a jump. I'd say it was probably Satedan.

The Prophet
January 18th, 2008, 01:44 PM
I know that not all planets progress the same way but why would a 1940's area culture have energy weapons? That would be like people today having real puddle jumpers, it doesn't work that way. Or like a medieval society having computers.

Vala,

You're assuming that all of the Satedan society is at a 1940's era, perhaps the architecture and fashion is 1940s, whilst the health care and technological parts are at a 1970s or 1910s era, it would be highly unliklely that Sateda progressed exactly the same way Earth did; it would mean that each discovery and advancement was made in exactly the same order as was on Earth.

Perhaps a Satedan scientist stumbled upon a way to create energy weapons, much like how Nikola Telsa had an idea for a Death Ray in 1915, if he was able to go forward with his plans, then perhaps we'd be using energy weapons now, instead or alongside projectiles.

Advancements are all up to chance, in the right circumstances, perhaps a Scientist could have developed Puddle Jumpers. A Medieval society having computers is a bit of a leap, as advancements then were restricted by a considerable number of variables; waring factions, religious persecution, inability to read, lack of interest in advancing society, diseases, etc.....

Vala_M
January 18th, 2008, 08:23 PM
You're assuming that all of the Satedan society is at a 1940's era, perhaps the architecture and fashion is 1940s, whilst the health care and technological parts are at a 1970s or 1910s era, it would be highly unliklely that Sateda progressed exactly the same way Earth did; it would mean that each discovery and advancement was made in exactly the same order as was on Earth.

Perhaps a Satedan scientist stumbled upon a way to create energy weapons, much like how Nikola Telsa had an idea for a Death Ray in 1915, if he was able to go forward with his plans, then perhaps we'd be using energy weapons now, instead or alongside projectiles.

Advancements are all up to chance, in the right circumstances, perhaps a Scientist could have developed Puddle Jumpers. A Medieval society having computers is a bit of a leap, as advancements then were restricted by a considerable number of variables; waring factions, religious persecution, inability to read, lack of interest in advancing society, diseases, etc.....

Ok, firstly, as much as I hate to say it, it's just TV, for the sake of ease, all cultures advance the same way in the show. The Kelownans/Langarans, Genii (except for their leap in Computers from the Wraith device), Satedans and such all have the same tech that Earth did in the 1940's-1950's. It's not such a leap to consider that they're all advancing the same since their ancestors came from Earth.

Vala,

Bytor
January 19th, 2008, 03:09 AM
I wonder what the Origin of Ronon's gun is. Could it be a design from a race that was around when the ancients were dominent and let other races advance? I dont think its the Travelers design because they use ammo ronon's doesnt. (If it did he would be out of ammo cause doesnt look like he has spare nothing suggests it)

He bought it at S-mart.
Shop smart.... shop S-mart

The Prophet
January 19th, 2008, 09:37 AM
Ok, firstly, as much as I hate to say it, it's just TV, for the sake of ease, all cultures advance the same way in the show. The Kelownans/Langarans, Genii (except for their leap in Computers from the Wraith device), Satedans and such all have the same tech that Earth did in the 1940's-1950's. It's not such a leap to consider that they're all advancing the same since their ancestors came from Earth.

Vala,

Simplified, I agree :P

But, did the Pegasus Humans originate from Earth? I thought it was only the Milky Way Humans that did?

The-rage
January 19th, 2008, 09:51 AM
I must say that the Gun is traveller design. and the fact that we dont see him change ammo is a mute point. Do we see them goto the bathroom? do we see them shower? (okay in 200 we see Carter in the shower when Jack is invisible) but in all honesty I dont want to see everyone reloading every 30 seconds that would be tiresome.

Ronin did what he needed to survive. How he came across this gun is unknown. Until the story is told on how he came about having the gun we can only guess. He could have even killed for the gun who knows..

Vala_M
January 19th, 2008, 11:15 AM
Simplified, I agree :P

But, did the Pegasus Humans originate from Earth? I thought it was only the Milky Way Humans that did?

Ok. Now if this weren't TV I would agree with you about the cultures all advancing the same being incorrect but enough of that now.

The Ancients came from Earth to Pegasus so there are probably very few if no differences between Pegasus humans and Milky Way humans. And in season 1, Dr. Beckett said that there is abosulely nothing different between Milky Way and Pegasus humans in terms of genetics/evolution.

Vala,

Aethon
January 19th, 2008, 11:45 AM
I think it's a little off to think it's Satedan tech, when all the travelers had it, and Shepherd had the gun, also we have never seen another Satedan with it, but we have seen all travelers with it. Everything points to that it's traveler technology or tech stolen by travelers but definatley not satedan.

nosaj
January 19th, 2008, 04:32 PM
I think it's a little off to think it's Satedan tech, when all the travelers had it, and Shepherd had the gun, also we have never seen another Satedan with it, but we have seen all travelers with it. Everything points to that it's traveler technology or tech stolen by travelers but definatley not satedan.

agreed

:ronananime16::wraith32:

Athram
January 19th, 2008, 05:11 PM
I think the power cells in his gun slowly recharge over time.

Carter1994
February 19th, 2008, 02:31 PM
Maybe it's not a practical gun for Planetary attacks, the Wraith were primarily using Darts, backed up by a few footsoldiers, a handgun woudn't be much use for the majority of the Satedan soldiers, but perhaps Ronan prefers to use it. Soldiers don't use all varieties of weapons in war, they're designed for specific purposes.

Whoa, whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa, WHAT?!! Are you kidding me? Ronon's gun is the best handheld gun we have ever seen on this show. And it's definitely better than any Satedan gun. If they had the guns, They'd use them! They were fighting the wraith. Wraith aren't that easy to kill, okay? If you were fighting evil super-strength bad guys, you would want to use your best weapon!! And regarding the 'planetary attacks' thing, from what we've seen, Ronon's gun is the best, land or air. (excluding bazookas!)

There is no way (unless Satedan's are idiots) that that gun is from Sateda. Considering the information at hand, it is most likely (85% chance) a Travelers gun.

atlantis2k8
February 19th, 2008, 03:43 PM
How can anyone say that Ronans gun is not the best? One shot from it can blow a hole in a wall. A P90 can't.

ebethman
February 19th, 2008, 07:48 PM
It's deffinatly rechargable. It said so on the concept art on the MGM page. I'm not entirly sure how they are recharged.

iqbalg1
February 19th, 2008, 08:53 PM
This is my take:

Ronon ran into a pair of Travelers, since it's doubtful they would go alone. He took a gun and both power packs from them, either force or trading. I think those power cells recharge through kinetic energy, since it would explain all those gun movements Ronon does. Realistically, they just waste time and give the enemy a chance to shoot you, unless Ronon does that to make sure the blast has full power. The evidence for that is even in Instinct, where I 'think' after Ronon puts the alternate cell in, he still does that gun trick, despite the fact Ellia is about to attack.

Finally, on Travellers, when Sheppard is about to confront the Wraith (after he feeds on Larrin), he checks the power cell of the gun. That doesn't make sense if it was just ammo based, since its like checking the cartridge of a P90 to see if bullets magically appeared. It does make sense if he was checking if the gun was charged or not.

That's my take on it anyway

YutheGreat
February 19th, 2008, 09:28 PM
I suspect Ronnon's gun was a trophy by one of the Wraiths who hunted Ronnon when he was a runner. It is probably that after hive captured a traveler ship one of them took it as trophy. This Wraith hunted Ronnon so Ronnon killed him and took the gun from him. In the Traveller episode, Teyla said they know of no other humans with Hyperdrive hence neither Teyla nor Ronnon have met the Travellers before.

Cap.Dylan Hunt
February 20th, 2008, 03:21 AM
Kinda that point dont ya think? We already new that. I think its more likely that Ronon met a Traveller on one of the planets he was running to and either killed him and took the gun, or the Travellers saw some potential in him. Either way.

atlantis2k8
February 20th, 2008, 03:27 AM
Kinda that point dont ya think? We already new that. I think its more likely that Ronon met a Traveller on one of the planets he was running to and either killed him and took the gun, or the Travellers saw some potential in him. Either way.

Or he done a trade for it maybe?

Cap.Dylan Hunt
February 20th, 2008, 03:35 AM
Or he done a trade for it maybe?

I dont know. Its just, umm well, hard seeing Ronon trade anything. And what would he have to trade. He was running from planet to planet with his Tripple barrel shotgun thing,(and probally had a sidearm too) which the Travellers wouldnt want anything to do with that type of tech seeing how their guns are far better.

atlantis2k8
February 20th, 2008, 03:43 AM
I dont know. Its just, umm well, hard seeing Ronon trade anything. And what would he have to trade. He was running from planet to planet with his Tripple barrel shotgun thing,(and probally had a sidearm too) which the Travellers wouldnt want anything to do with that type of tech seeing how their guns are far better.

True. But we don't no what he picked up whilst running do we?

Cap.Dylan Hunt
February 20th, 2008, 03:53 AM
True. But we don't no what he picked up whilst running do we?

True, but i dont see that the Travellers would have need anything he had. I mean look at the Pegas galaxy. Theres us in atlantis, the Wriath, the travellers, and then the Genii. The rest of the galaxy that they have shown us is nothing but simple, well nomadike like indians. They have bows and arrows. Ronons people were probally the next advanced. They had projectial weapons like us and the Genii.

atlantis2k8
February 20th, 2008, 04:01 AM
True, but i dont see that the Travellers would have need anything he had. I mean look at the Pegas galaxy. Theres us in atlantis, the Wriath, the travellers, and then the Genii. The rest of the galaxy that they have shown us is nothing but simple, well nomadike like indians. They have bows and arrows. Ronons people were probally the next advanced. They had projectial weapons like us and the Genii.

True. Reading your comments i doubt he traded it. He probably killed for it or even possibly found it but i doubt that aswell.

YutheGreat
February 20th, 2008, 05:16 AM
I think people forgot to read this part of my post:

[QUOTE=YutheGreat;7763215]I suspect Ronnon's gun was a trophy by one of the Wraiths who hunted Ronnon when he was a runner. It is probable that after hive captured a traveller ship one of them took it as trophy. This Wraith hunted Ronnon so Ronnon killed him and took the gun from him. [QUOTE]

So indirectly Ronnon got it by killing the Wraith that took it from the travellers. Ronnon could not have directly taken it cause he didn't meet the travellers before.

peragrin
February 20th, 2008, 05:17 AM
or ronon found it after killing a wraith as the wraith killed a traveler.

Or possibly the traveler wondered what was going on between a wraith and one guy, and attempted to interfere. the traveler died and ronon killed the wraith.

A smart runner would then loot the bodies for useful items.

YutheGreat
February 20th, 2008, 05:32 AM
True, he needed all the tools he can get. We know Ronon is smart enough to salvage what he can. He is quite resourceful as we have seen in the episode Sateda.

atlantis2k8
February 20th, 2008, 05:50 AM
True, he needed all the tools he can get. We know Ronon is smart enough to salvage what he can. He is quite resourceful as we have seen in the episode Sateda.

Very true :)

Cap.Dylan Hunt
February 20th, 2008, 12:59 PM
True. Reading your comments i doubt he traded it. He probably killed for it or even possibly found it but i doubt that aswell.

Ronon is the shoot first and dont bother asking question types to me. I doubt the Wraith took it from a Traveller. He probally took it from a Traveller that he killed. Now whether or not the Traveller pulled his gun first, who nows. But there are a couple of possiablities of how he got it.

Phantom6
February 20th, 2008, 05:10 PM
i agree with "Wraith_Boy" i do remember Ronon flipping out ammo and about the origins of the gun Ronon was a runner for how many years he could have run in to the travelers at some point and traded/ stole one of there weapons because they are much better than Satedans standard weaponry.

I remember seeing him flip the gun open and checking the cylinder on several occasions. Maybe checking the charge?

Cap.Dylan Hunt
February 20th, 2008, 05:53 PM
Good question. I always thought that was how he changed it from stun to kill but im not sure.

Phantom6
February 20th, 2008, 05:59 PM
Good question. I always thought that was how he changed it from stun to kill but im not sure.

See I always thought that little flip of his thumb switched modes.


I recall seeing him "thumb the safety" in a few scenes as they moved to full combat from sneaking.

Carter1994
February 20th, 2008, 06:14 PM
I recall seeing him "thumb the safety" in a few scenes as they moved to full combat from sneaking.

Yeah, me too. *goes off to surf transcripts for info*

--------------
Okay, here's what the Stargate Omnipedia has to say about it:



Weapon wielded by Ronon Dex. Little is known about this weapon, but it is apparently not Satedan in origin. The Travelers also possess the same weapons technology, indicating that Ronon may have encountered them during his years as a Runner and taken (or was given) it.

Rather than bullets, the device emits great red bursts of energy. It has two settings, stun and kill.
(Link (http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/technology/links/rononsgun.shtml))
Hmmm... Not very helpful, huh? I'll keep looking...

Cap.Dylan Hunt
February 21st, 2008, 12:47 PM
Maybe an upcomeing episode will hae some information on his gun in it??

The.Road.Not.Taken
February 21st, 2008, 01:38 PM
Maybe an upcomeing episode will hae some information on his gun in it??

we got already got some info on his gun in traverlers we found its origin :D:D:D

but there not really much more we could learn bout it except it kicks ass!!

Phantom6
February 21st, 2008, 02:05 PM
we got already got some info on his gun in traverlers we found its origin :D:D:D

but there not really much more we could learn bout it except it kicks ass!!

And that everyone wants one.


I wonder if Diamond Select will make replicas of it?

The.Road.Not.Taken
February 21st, 2008, 02:32 PM
And that everyone wants one.


I wonder if Diamond Select will make replicas of it?

haha you'll get aressted or shot at airports for having a massive gun carrying around with you LOL!!

Carter1994
February 21st, 2008, 03:01 PM
And that everyone wants one.


I wonder if Diamond Select will make replicas of it?

Hee-hee!
Teal'c: I would very much like a weapon like this.
Ronon: Get in line.

Anyway, I found this at Wikipedia, but still nothing from my search with the transcripts...

He [Ronon] has a unique weapon, an energy pistol. The device emits red bursts of energy, and has two settings, stun and kill. It resembles a revolver, with a power cell where the ammunition cylinder would be located. Ronon is fond of gunplay, spinning the pistol around rapidly. In addition, he carries a sword. In the 4th season episode Travelers, where Sheppard is taken captive by a group of 'space nomads' as Mckay puts it, they are shown to have the same gun as Ronon. Although this suggests the origin of his weapon, Ronon does not seem to have any knowledge of the people.
(Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronon_Dex))

*goes off to continue her web-wide search*

Ancient122
February 21st, 2008, 05:36 PM
My only problem with the gun is it's firing rate, imagine it in a carbine or a rifle!
Back on topic, I believe the gun originates from the travelers.

ebethman
February 21st, 2008, 11:54 PM
here is the concept art for ronon's gun. I got it from the MGM website.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd24/ebethman/still1191016068.jpg

Cap.Dylan Hunt
February 22nd, 2008, 05:22 AM
And that everyone wants one.


I wonder if Diamond Select will make replicas of it?

That would be sweet. You now i would be walking down the street with one!!
:ronananime16:

Carter1994
February 22nd, 2008, 07:13 AM
here is the concept art for ronon's gun. I got it from the MGM website.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd24/ebethman/still1191016068.jpg

Wow, sweet!

This pistol is an energy weapon with three power settings. Its lowest setting is a stun blast capable of rendering a target unconscious for a number of hours, but leaving them otherwise unharmed. It also has a kill setting as well as an incinerate setting which has the same effect as a shotgun, capable of blowing open a hole approximately ten inches (25 centimeters) wide or larger with multiple shots. It has the appearance of a long-barreled revolver; with the rear part of the cylinder glowing red like the blasts it fires. However, the cylinder color shows what setting the weapon is on, red is stun and white is kill. Asurans are temporarily stunned when struck by this gun's power blasts, and one shot from this gun can take down a UAV. In the season 4 episode Travelers, it is shown that a race known as The Travelers who are technologically advanced were using the same guns and thus most likely invented them. It is not known how Ronon came in possession of one. It has replaceable power cylinders which can be removed and reinserted at the back of the weapon.
(Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscellaneous_technology_in_Stargate))
So Ronon's gun is definitely rechargeable.

wise one
February 22nd, 2008, 07:19 AM
did it say incinarate(spelling) on the picture??

Carter1994
February 22nd, 2008, 07:23 AM
did it say incinarate(spelling) on the picture??

Yep; the incinerate setting has the same effect as a shotgun, it can blow open a hole about ten inches wide or larger with multiple shots.

You know, like what Larrin does in Travelers to the door?

The.Road.Not.Taken
February 22nd, 2008, 02:32 PM
Yep; the incinerate setting has the same effect as a shotgun, it can blow open a hole about ten inches wide or larger with multiple shots.

You know, like what Larrin does in Travelers to the door?

haha she blasts that door to hell lol that wernt very nice!!

jakebolt
April 24th, 2008, 08:21 PM
Ok this deals with Ronon Dex's gun. I was wonder why it works like a zat? I say this because the first episode he was in he used it. He shot it at the target and put a big hole in it. If it worked that way why doesn't it do that when he puts it at full blast? I know it has a stun setting too.

RM_2000_A
April 24th, 2008, 08:25 PM
Ronons gun: Creates a big hole, killing the person, or making the energy less concentrated so he can stun them

Zat: Creates strong electrical discharges that stun the person, then kill them.

jonos101
April 24th, 2008, 08:47 PM
it works the same way as the search function ;)

jakebolt
April 24th, 2008, 08:56 PM
But why doesn't run out of ammo and Shepard ran out when he got one aboard that one ship?

RM_2000_A
April 24th, 2008, 09:04 PM
Maybe he means the power cartridges. And someone check out and comment on my new sig!

pbutter
April 24th, 2008, 10:07 PM
Works like an Intar, and a juiced up Intar when set on kill.

RM_2000_A
April 25th, 2008, 12:07 AM
/e concedes and seconds the motion.

Cap116
April 25th, 2008, 02:14 PM
I have always wondered about that. I have never seen Ronon put a new energy cartridge in his gun. But in the 'Travellers' episode, they kept reloaded after a few shots from their weapons.

Durgia
April 25th, 2008, 02:20 PM
this has been gone over many times already, try searching for the old thread...


and yes we have seen Ronan use ammo cartridges before, he used to have a bag of them... TPTB have said that the cartridges are self recharging somehow.

shepard137
May 7th, 2008, 12:16 PM
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4002/weaponrononsblasterabi5wn9.png Ronon Dex's Gun

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3971/blasterriflejb0ac6.th.png (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blasterriflejb0ac6.png) Ronon's gun as a possible Carbine weapon

EternalAlteran
May 10th, 2008, 07:57 AM
:thoranime09:

EnlightenedIan
May 17th, 2008, 12:13 PM
Does anybody know anything about what powers Ronons gun?
The only thing that they really show is that it is redish orange.

Oh yeah, and where does the gun actually originate from?

dboy-2007
May 17th, 2008, 12:16 PM
o.k this is your first post so i'll go easy. This thread has been done so many times, try using te search button.

Crazy Tom
May 17th, 2008, 12:17 PM
*sight* Nugets; they always forget the search function, there must now be like 5 threads with the same exact title. :P

nich959
May 17th, 2008, 12:30 PM
Does anybody know anything about what powers Ronons gun?
The only thing that they really show is that it is redish orange.

Oh yeah, and where does the gun actually originate from?

*deep Steadying breath*

I belive ronons gun is pwered by an energy something that has to be replaced like an ammo magazine.

The gun originates from the race called the the Travellers, see SGA episode Travelers

pbutter
May 17th, 2008, 01:55 PM
Does anybody know anything about what powers Ronons gun?
The only thing that they really show is that it is redish orange.


I believe the gun is powered by something called "THE SEARCH FUNCTION"
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=54379
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=50390
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=47802
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=25676
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=29294
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=14863

Gate-builder
May 17th, 2008, 02:23 PM
It's EnlightenedIan's first post, give him a break guys.

We know that it is powered by some sort of reddish capsule that slots in the back. Don't know if you can recharge them though. I don't recall Ronon ever changing one, so maybe they last for a really long time.

As far as we know they were made by the travelers, but as they are scavengers to some degree, it is possible they found them somewhere else and adopted them as a sidearm.

Oh, and welcome to the forum! :D

pbutter
May 17th, 2008, 03:25 PM
I have a flashlight that doesn't need any batteries. It recharges by friction/moment. There is a little piece of metal that moves back and forth, i believe it is surrounded by a whole bunch of copper wires, so that, when one shakes the flash light, it generates electricity, thus recharging it.
Hope that makes sense.

Forgot to add, - Perhaps, that is how Ronon's gun works. It also explains why Ronon is always fiddling (that cheesy ...goofy, thing he does with his gun, like he's a cowboy or something) with it.

EnlightenedIan
May 17th, 2008, 04:25 PM
yeah thanks i know what the search button is, and i just felt like posting something. oh yeah and thanks Gate-builder for having my back.

Crazy Tom
May 17th, 2008, 04:27 PM
yeah thanks i know what the search button is, and i just felt like posting something. oh yeah and thanks Gate-builder for having my back.

Ah, were not all out ot get you, it's just when you se the same thread made over and over again:rolleyes:

EnlightenedIan
May 17th, 2008, 04:29 PM
you don't know that the Travelers originated the gun because they found the ships and figured out how to use them just like they could have found the guns and figured out how to use them. Plus, then Larrin should have had more ammo for gun instead of just the one.

Xiphias
May 17th, 2008, 10:07 PM
It's powered by rainbows and sunshine.

shepard137
June 21st, 2008, 11:55 AM
have completely redone ronon's gun
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5015/rononpistolcolor2ol8.th.png (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rononpistolcolor2ol8.png)

shepard137
June 21st, 2008, 11:57 AM
have completely redone Ronon's gun
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5015/rononpistolcolor2ol8.th.png (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rononpistolcolor2ol8.png)

VSHARMA
June 22nd, 2008, 04:41 AM
it works the same way as the search function ;)

I've seen atleast 50 'Ronon's Gun' threads

jnadreth
June 22nd, 2008, 07:30 AM
I really hope that the SGC will appropriate some of these guns from the Travelers cuz they pack a WKD amount of firepower, they have a stun setting and they look really cool!

stargater1990
June 24th, 2008, 05:11 PM
But why doesn't run out of ammo and Shepard ran out when he got one aboard that one ship?


but that gun could have been quite older than ronans like all of the other travelers things

thekillman
June 25th, 2008, 03:30 AM
we dont know how much power the one sheppard had had to begin with. ronon was a runner. runners run. if the battery works on kinetic power, then ronon always had a ton of power

ManiacMike
June 25th, 2008, 07:04 PM
Maybe they work like a re-chargable battery, in that they recharge when not in use but when you use all the energy in it, its dead.

Gmandex
June 25th, 2008, 07:54 PM
But why doesn't run out of ammo and Shepard ran out when he got one aboard that one ship?

I am sure it does, but it probably works like a staff weapon the ammo just doesn't run out after like a couple hundred shots.

EternalAlteran
July 1st, 2008, 12:00 AM
Maybe they don't show it in Atlantis. they also do not show people going to the bathroom, taking a shower, refilling the buffet, cleaning the place up, packing the jumpers.

ykickamoocow
July 1st, 2008, 06:07 AM
Maybe they don't show it in Atlantis. they also do not show people going to the bathroom, taking a shower, refilling the buffet, cleaning the place up, packing the jumpers.

Maybe thats something the writers should consider showing :P

NoobTau'ri
July 2nd, 2008, 08:37 PM
Ok this deals with Ronon Dex's gun. I was wonder why it works like a zat? I say this because the first episode he was in he used it. He shot it at the target and put a big hole in it. If it worked that way why doesn't it do that when he puts it at full blast? I know it has a stun setting too.

Ronon's gun fires super compressed anodized particles. The generator works in ways akin to cold fusion. Like a mini cold fusion reactor.

wkw427
July 3rd, 2008, 11:18 AM
Maybe thats something the writers should consider showing :P

I believe they are showing Rodney's personal shower in S5. It is pretty big..

Nobody0x00
July 31st, 2008, 07:21 PM
The people that live in ships in whatever episode have similar weapons - I think Shepard says in the EP with the Larrin chick that he has a friend with "one of these" or something to that effect after picking up hers.

Season 4 - Travelers. Multiple scenes with Larrin holding a gun very similar to Rhonon's.

Ripple in Space
July 31st, 2008, 10:26 PM
While Ronon's gun is cool, I think for most people who are just decent marksmen, a p90 is superior in most situations. When fighting humans or Wraith who haven't fed recently, McKay or Beckett blanketing an enemy with p90 rounds would probably put him down faster than having to fire individual pulses from Ronon's gun after missing repeatedly.

Nobody0x00
August 1st, 2008, 02:27 AM
I noticed Ronon's gun has substansially more power on "kill" than a p90 though. With good aim, its overall explosive force/heat I think would put it ahead of the p90's rapid firing.

=SGA=Jason_Binn
August 1st, 2008, 04:13 PM
i think he jumped a traveller

hank
August 1st, 2008, 05:37 PM
i think he jumped a traveller

agreed

Or travelers gave it to other people as they have indicated they have trading partners and ronan got it from them

stargatestew
September 24th, 2008, 06:23 PM
yo yo yo i have the sound effect of ronan's gun loading up and of him shooting it.
all you have to do is go to youtube and find videos of ronan shooting or loading up his gun.
than go 2 http://www.downloadyoutubevideos.com/ and type the url address http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stargate+atlantis+guns&search_type= and also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyy2n4SDG78&feature=related.
than download a program called flv to mp3 converter.

and also download wavepad so you can edit it

Spl1988
October 8th, 2008, 01:22 AM
I am surprised that almost none of you actually know where his gun is from. He got it while he was on the run from the Wraith, and it is a gun made by the Travelers. They are one of the few known civilizations that are spacefaring and relatively advanced in that sense. It doesn't say where exactly or how exactly he got it, but it is the same as the Traveler's guns. He COULD of modified it a little bit, but even that is a completely unverified idea as well, since there hasnt been any episode in which a member of the Traveler's actually fires they're weapon. In Be All My Sins Remember'd, after Ronon, Teyla, "Todd" the wraith & Sheppard meet with the hive ships and negotiate a temporary "alliance", they run into Laryn's ship and when they come on board, the guards with Laryn have the exact same guns as Ronon; the same goes with any other episode featuring the travelers. I believe I have even seen it said officially on certain websites/blogs that they REALLY are the people that made Ronon's gun.

Like I said, he MAY have modified his own gun to some extent, since his has multiple setting's, different colors for different settings (opaque for stun, reddish orange for kill), not to mention he made the handle more comfortable :)

But overall: Ronon's gun = Traveler's technology.

Ripple in Space
October 8th, 2008, 12:13 PM
I am surprised that almost none of you actually know where his gun is from. He got it while he was on the run from the Wraith, and it is a gun made by the Travelers. They are one of the few known civilizations that are spacefaring and relatively advanced in that sense. It doesn't say where exactly or how exactly he got it, but it is the same as the Traveler's guns. He COULD of modified it a little bit, but even that is a completely unverified idea as well, since there hasnt been any episode in which a member of the Traveler's actually fires they're weapon. In Be All My Sins Remember'd, after Ronon, Teyla, "Todd" the wraith & Sheppard meet with the hive ships and negotiate a temporary "alliance", they run into Laryn's ship and when they come on board, the guards with Laryn have the exact same guns as Ronon; the same goes with any other episode featuring the travelers. I believe I have even seen it said officially on certain websites/blogs that they REALLY are the people that made Ronon's gun.

Like I said, he MAY have modified his own gun to some extent, since his has multiple setting's, different colors for different settings (opaque for stun, reddish orange for kill), not to mention he made the handle more comfortable :)

But overall: Ronon's gun = Traveler's technology.

Yes and no. First of all, he said he doesn't understand science, so he didn't modify it himself.

Ronon's gun is better since his recharges itself. So that pretty much leaves one of two alternatives (that I've heard on here):

1.) He got his hands on an experimental upgrade of the gun that the Travelers were working on but have not mass produced.

2.) Both he and the Travelers got the technology from a more advanced third race. And the Travelers couldn't reproduce the tech as well.

Hermiiod
October 8th, 2008, 04:14 PM
I'm forced to agree with the latter of the two possibilities. Remember, also that in Deadalus Variation there were those aliens who each had a similar type gun but it shot a green shot instead of a red shot. Perhaps in the actual reality, that race created them but were destroyed by the wraith 10,000ish years before the Atlantis Expedition. Since the travelers travel so much, they may have uncovered a cache of those weapons or a lab of some sort.

Spl1988
October 8th, 2008, 07:13 PM
Yes and no. First of all, he said he doesn't understand science, so he didn't modify it himself.

Ronon's gun is better since his recharges itself. So that pretty much leaves one of two alternatives (that I've heard on here):

1.) He got his hands on an experimental upgrade of the gun that the Travelers were working on but have not mass produced.

2.) Both he and the Travelers got the technology from a more advanced third race. And the Travelers couldn't reproduce the tech as well.

all valid points! Well said. Maybe they will clear this up before the end of season 5 or maybe in the movies?

:)

queen_hathor
November 16th, 2008, 11:19 AM
Hi, I know this thread is very old but does anyone know where these can be found? Or any site recommendations as to who else might have them?

Thanks :D

Lahela
November 17th, 2008, 10:32 PM
Hi, I know this thread is very old but does anyone know where these can be found? Or any site recommendations as to who else might have them?

Thanks :D

You could just PM me hon ;)

*huggles QH*

queen_hathor
November 17th, 2008, 11:06 PM
You could just PM me hon ;)

*huggles QH*
*faceplam* Oh gawd, I shoulda know...Super Lah to the rescue yet again!!! :p :lol:

Will do when I get home from work! *huggles back*

Lord Pink
July 3rd, 2009, 08:11 PM
As many people know already, Ronon's gun is an uber overpowered pulse laser pistol, that can kill or stun. Has anyone noticed that Ronon has never lost his gun ever nor has the power cell run out of juice. It seems likely that he would have lost that weapon a long time ago, considering all the times he has been caught by the wrath or other foes.

Just my thoughts.:ronan:

SGC Earth's Defense Commander
July 3rd, 2009, 10:35 PM
I agree but what i think is the gun is not of his kind, as in the epidosed were he's taken back to his home planet. The weapons on his planet are some what of our kind just a bit more advanced and shot gunny. Meaning he must of got it when he was a runner.

The fact that the power cell never runs out is a mistory.
And for losing it he most have a tracker on it.

comperius
July 3rd, 2009, 11:00 PM
Ronon's gun is possibly from Travelers. They use the same gun's and all other technologies are coloured in red.

Regarding the questions it's a plot whole if you ask me.

SGC Earth's Defense Commander
July 3rd, 2009, 11:14 PM
I'm still watching the Atlantis so i don't know about the traveler's so my info just came from what i now

oniel193
July 8th, 2009, 02:58 PM
Ronon's gun is from the travlers they had the same weapons.
hi
couldnt resist

hawkmajor
July 12th, 2009, 08:28 AM
Ronon's gun is from the travlers they had the same weapons.
hi
couldnt resist

any ideas where and when he might have got the gun?

ggf31416
July 12th, 2009, 10:34 AM
Traveler's weapons run out of power, Ronon's gun doesn't!

tjoflojt
July 12th, 2009, 10:44 AM
Traveler's weapons run out of power, Ronon's gun doesn't!

in what ep?

Character
July 12th, 2009, 10:47 AM
In "Travelers", s4. Although i suspect ronons gun works the same, he just recharges it between missions, or possibly the gun recharges itself, but over time.

tjoflojt
July 12th, 2009, 11:08 AM
maybe he keeps a stack of... eum batteries, plasma charges, whatever it is that runs out :P

Experiment 442
July 12th, 2009, 11:17 AM
its basically a zat, but not a three shot disintergrater. Just looks mean though :p

hawkmajor
July 13th, 2009, 03:03 AM
its basically a zat, but not a three shot disintergrater. Just looks mean though :p

just 2 things:

the 3 shot disintergrator was retconned in season 2/3
ronon's gun has two settings: one stun, one kill; whereas the zat is 1 shot to stun, 2 to kill

Lunaeclipse
January 20th, 2012, 02:34 PM
The directors commentary supports the fact that he got it from the travellers and that he must have a charger for it somewhere...


With the addition of the wraith hair on the handle...

Rawtheran
February 12th, 2012, 03:37 PM
I thought that the Zat'niktel was the greatest weapon designed in Stargate, but that Traveler weapon Ronan has is just beast.