Where is the Other DHD??

[SG-Bob]

Okay, I am a bit of a Newcomer to the Stargate World. I just finished watching Seasons 1 through 5 on DVD and I am hooked! There is one thing that I don't understand however. When SG-1 discovered the second gate along with it's DHD in Antarctica they moved it back to the USA. It was used briefly by the baddies at the NID, then it was stored away. I know that the DHD worked because on one episode SG-1 went after the Rogue team and chased after them while they escaped through the gate which was sitting in a big crate. They dialed on the DHD which was nearby in the back of a truck or something. So anyway, that gate was apparently put away and not used until the other gate (found in Giza) was beamed up to the Azguard ship then ultimately crashed into the ocean. So now the Giza gate is recovered by the Russians and put together with the Giza DHD which the Russians had all along (If I was listening closely). Stargate Command now hooks up the Antarctica Gate and gets back to business. Okay, So finally to my question; Where is the DHD that came with the Antarctica Gate? They had it and it worked, so what happened to it? I think that I have seen every episode up to the end of Season 5 and they never said what happened to it. I am just curious because it seems like they need to have it all the time, like when Tilk gets stuck in the Stargate and they end up borrowing the Russian's DHD to get him out. If anyone can help me out on this I would appreciate it!

Thanks,

SG-Bob

[omnian]

The Antarctic DHD died shortly after the experiments were conducted on it. That's why its never come up again.

Plus its more dangerous to operate the Stargate with a DHD so you can understand why they don't want to use it. They're better off with the dialling computer.

[Crazedwraith]

It's in Area 51 presumbly, but it "died" and they can't use it. The dialing comps better anyway despite drawing 10% more power.

[SG-Bob]

Hey, Thanks for the Responses! How do we know that the DHD was damaged by the way? Does that get answered at some point after Season 5 or did I just miss it somewhere along the line? Do you know which episode tells us that?

As far as the Dialing Computer being better than the DHD, Doesn't the DHD correct for all sorts of problems that the Dialing Computer can't? Like the problem that caused Tilk to get stuck in the gate in the first place? And the time that the Wormhole went through a star and almost destroyed it? They said that the DHD would have corrected for that. Is this more information that comes out in later episodes?

Thanks Again!

[Mr Prophet]

The Antarctic DHD died shortly after the experiments were conducted on it. That's why its never come up again.

I think strictly speaking the Antarctic DHD never came up again and that's why it died shortly after the experiments were conducted. :D

The advantage of the dialling computer is that Steven J. Goa'uld can't waltz in and dial home; it's got all manner of security locks and so-forth, although the only times anyone's wanted to dial out they were Kawalski with his codes and Linea who hacked all the computers anyway.

[Crazedwraith]

I think strictly speaking the Antarctic DHD never came up again and that's why it died shortly after the experiments were conducted. :D

The advantage of the dialling computer is that Steven J. Goa'uld can't waltz in and dial home; it's got all manner of security locks and so-forth, although the only times anyone's wanted to dial out they were Kawalski with his codes and Linea who hacked all the computers anyway.


What about Hathor?

To SG_Bob: It's mentioned in "Frozen" a season 6 episode.

[Mr Prophet]

What about Hathor?

Presumably hit old Walter with the love dust; that or evil Davis twin Norman was on duty that day and let her go because he thought it would be funny.

[Mio]

Hey, Thanks for the Responses! How do we know that the DHD was damaged by the way? Does that get answered at some point after Season 5 or did I just miss it somewhere along the line? Do you know which episode tells us that?

As far as the Dialing Computer being better than the DHD, Doesn't the DHD correct for all sorts of problems that the Dialing Computer can't? Like the problem that caused Tilk to get stuck in the gate in the first place? And the time that the Wormhole went through a star and almost destroyed it? They said that the DHD would have corrected for that. Is this more information that comes out in later episodes?

Thanks Again!
Tilk? It's Teal'c. <g>

Annnyway, our computer is more flexible. We can dial out to other galaxies, and monitor feedback from the gate more easily. Every see a DHD dial another galaxy? didn't think so!


Besides, we probably learned the codes that the DHD sent to the gate in order to rematerialize Teal'c, and added it to our computer.

We also know what code the gate sends to our computer when it doesn't want to dial through a sun, etc.

[bcmilco]

I think maybe "better" isn't the right word for the dialing computer. I'd say it's -theoretically- more secure, except when it serves the plot to let someone dial out. ;)

Otherwise the DHD does have all sorts of features that would be nice to have. :)

[bcmilco]

Every see a DHD dial another galaxy? didn't think so!

Of course a DHD can dial another galaxy. It's just a matter of dialing 7 symbols and the PoO. All the dialing computer does is simulate the input that a DHD would normal send to the gate.

If the DHD couldn't dial another galaxy then neither could our dialing computer. ;)

[KorbenDirewolf]

Never seen anyone attempt to dial another galaxy on a DHD.. That doesn't mean its impossible. Although O'Neill did make it back from the Asgard planet in the Fifth Race, so presumably they used a DHD.

[MadJaffa]

Never seen anyone attempt to dial another galaxy on a DHD.. That doesn't mean its impossible. Although O'Neill did make it back from the Asgard planet in the Fifth Race, so presumably they used a DHD.

Or Thor's crazy hand device. That thing had all those uses, including curing the ultimate headache :) . Bout the DHD, I seem to remember some words in the season 2 finalie about how the needed the device O'Neill made.

It would have been better for the shows continuity if they hadn't made the lame "One Dialout Manually Without Energy" crap. They should have beemed up the Alpha gate with the Beta DHD. The DHD would have burned up (Made of Weaker Materials) wile the Gate survived, much easier to explain.

[MadJaffa]

BTW I thought it would be great if they talked more about the Nazi's involvement with Stargate, the had the DHD and possiably Zats and Staff weapons. Hey maybe Hitler was a Goa'uld! Oh well maybe not. But still an episode about Catherine's father dieing would be great too.

[Lunaeclipse]

Are we talking about the DHD that they borrowed from the Russian because that one kind of blew up...

[AVFan]

I have another question for those who remember these episodes better than I do lol- Where did the NID's DHD come from? I can't remember for the life of me... IIRC, it's NOT the Russian DHD that was recovered from the Nazis after WWII, and it's not the Antarctic one because it was dead by that point afaik.

[blueray]

my guess is that the artic dhd is still in area 51. they sgc has a computer already set up and works better then any dhd would.

[DigiFluid]

In case anyone was wondering, it was said in dialogue that the Antarctic DHD died in Area 51 shortly after it was brought there. Sam was saying this to the Antarctic researcher at the very beginning of Season 6's Frozen.


I have another question for those who remember these episodes better than I do lol- Where did the NID's DHD come from? I can't remember for the life of me... IIRC, it's NOT the Russian DHD that was recovered from the Nazis after WWII, and it's not the Antarctic one because it was dead by that point afaik.
That is actually a very, very good point. Maybe it was stolen from another world, as was the NID's MO? But then even that begs the question of what happened to it later.

[jelgate]

I have another question for those who remember these episodes better than I do lol- Where did the NID's DHD come from? I can't remember for the life of me... IIRC, it's NOT the Russian DHD that was recovered from the Nazis after WWII, and it's not the Antarctic one because it was dead by that point afaik.

It has to be the Antartic DHD as the Russian one wasn't know of at the time. It was never specified how many uses the DHD had before it ran out of power.

[rushy]

Never seen anyone attempt to dial another galaxy on a DHD..

Yes, we have. In Stargate Atlantis, Weir, Sheppard, McKay, Teyla and Ford went back to Earth from the Pegasus Galaxy(in a hallucination) using a DHD. When they discovered it wasn't real, the alien Hammond said that the dial would destroy millions of his kind. It was still possible to do however.

[Starsaber]

Yes, we have. In Stargate Atlantis, Weir, Sheppard, McKay, Teyla and Ford went back to Earth from the Pegasus Galaxy(in a hallucination) using a DHD. When they discovered it wasn't real, the alien Hammond said that the dial would destroy millions of his kind. It was still possible to do however.

For that matter, they use a DHD on Atlantis itself. Not quite the same as a standard DHD, but it's still a DHD.

[ZPM Odyssey]

In SGA dialing another galaxy requires an extra crystal and LOTS of power. As for the dialing computer being better than the DHD someone says that the DHD has something like 300 safety features while the dialing com only has 150 or so. Without a power plant on the surface a dial-out is impossible.

[syber]

someone says that the DHD has something like 300 safety features while the dialing com only has 150 or so

It was Dr. Mckay that said it, I just watched that episode yesterday. Season 5 Ep 14
48 Hours.

He said the computer misses a bunch of protocols the DHD goes through, and it's a sheer miracle nothing has happened to anyone going through the Stargate.
Teal'c would have still come through the gate rather than getting caught in the buffer, if a DHD was used instead of the dailing computer.

[taff]

i had the same question in my mind whilst re-watching SG1 and in season 6 cant remember what episode they mention that the Antartic DHD Died after tests on it.

[SaberBlade]

i had the same question in my mind whilst re-watching SG1 and in season 6 cant remember what episode they mention that the Antartic DHD Died after tests on it.

Season 6, episode 4. Carter says it ran out of power after being used a few times (by the Rogue NID agents).

[QueteshRuled]

why didnt they copy the destinations in the dhds crystals... they wouldve had more stargate locations and adresses.