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babaganoosh
July 25th, 2005, 08:31 AM
I was watching an episode of MacGyver the other day and there was a woman looking to bring him down - to what end, I don't know but she was creating a profile on him:

Artistic
Environmentalist
Supporter of the Handicapped
Musical
Intelligent

Does anyone know if RDA deliberatley wanted to distance himself from the MacGyver role by being the exact polar opposite from MacGyver?

O'Neill loves his guns and bombs, isn't really that smart. Isn't artistic - much, and to my knowledge, doesn't play an instrument.

MartoufMarty
July 25th, 2005, 08:38 AM
Well, he doesn't really LOVE guns.

Remember that Jack's son accidently shot and killed himself with Jack's gun.

You see him around his house listening to classical music and playing chess with General Landry - and winning.

He's a very complex guy.

He's smart, artistic, and likes other stuff too.

Kind of reminds me of Patrick Stewart. He's a huge Beavis and Butthead fan :P

Qasim
July 25th, 2005, 08:56 AM
He has a telescope

MartoufMarty
July 25th, 2005, 11:26 AM
He has a telescope
Yeah!

See?

Just because he doesn't go around making bombs out of a paperclip, a wad of gum and a pencil doesn't mean he's not smart or artistic.

Just kind of like... On Battlestar Galactica. Starbuck is kind of a hard ass and all military macho yet when she went to her place on Caprica you see that she paints.

Qasim
July 25th, 2005, 11:31 AM
Alien races like him - there must be some reason for that

Porthos1013
July 25th, 2005, 06:02 PM
Alien races like him - there must be some reason for that
What? Liking to shoot things and blow things up doesn't sound like a viable reason for peaceful alien races to like him? :p ;)

melpomene
July 25th, 2005, 06:15 PM
Well for starters I don't think Jack is about RDA trying to be the opposite of MacGyver. Jack was never supposed to be a tender loving sweetheart. He's a military man, black ops and on that note the man is intelligent. He doesn't go around spouting quantum theory but he's solved some serious problems, gotten SG-1 out of many situations, and saved the world, with his practical intelligence and knowledge of how to handle a situation. And if you want MacGyver comparisons Jack's good with kids, and dogs. And when given a time loop he learned pottery, he didn't blow up NID headquarters. I think Jack is well rounded. And not as different from Mac as you'd think. For being opposites. After all Richard himself described them as one being the 'Right side' and the other the 'Left side' of his brain.

RDAfan61
July 25th, 2005, 06:20 PM
Well for starters I don't think Jack is about RDA trying to be the opposite of MacGyver. Jack was never supposed to be a tender loving sweetheart. He's a military man, black ops and on that note the man is intelligent. He doesn't go around spouting quantum theory but he's solved some serious problems, gotten SG-1 out of many situations, and saved the world, with his practical intelligence and knowledge of how to handle a situation. And if you want MacGyver comparisons Jack's good with kids, and dogs. And when given a time loop he learned pottery, he didn't blow up NID headquarters.

I agree. If you want to see RDA getting away from the Mac image a couple of his movies did that much better. In the Eyes of a Stranger and Through the Eyes Of a Killer were particularly big departures from the good guy image for him.

Shelly

Kliggins
July 25th, 2005, 06:22 PM
I agree. If you want to see RDA getting away from the Mac image a couple of his movies did that much better. In the Eyes of a Stranger and Through the Eyes Of a Killer were particularly big departures from the good guy image for him.

Shelly

I would also add Beyond Betrayal to that list where he was about as un-MacGyver as you could get. He was pretty creepy in that one.

ShimmeringStar
July 25th, 2005, 06:38 PM
I was watching an episode of MacGyver the other day and there was a woman looking to bring him down - to what end, I don't know but she was creating a profile on him:

Artistic
Environmentalist
Supporter of the Handicapped
Musical
Intelligent

Does anyone know if RDA deliberatley wanted to distance himself from the MacGyver role by being the exact polar opposite from MacGyver?

O'Neill loves his guns and bombs, isn't really that smart. Isn't artistic - much, and to my knowledge, doesn't play an instrument.MOHO is that the TV Jack isn't a polar opposite of Mac. RDA's Jack is different than KR's for sure. RDA definitely put his own spin on the character and made it his just like he did with Mac. But it's more like a matter of how many degrees apart they are, more like 45 degrees or 90 than a complete 180.

But I'd say 4 out of the 5 things you mentioned fit Jack to some degree:
Environmentalist: Fisherman
Musical: more of an opera and classic appreciator than player
Artistic: Pottery (WoO anyone? :D )
intelligence: Master's Degree in engineering, astronomy buff, knows a second language

babaganoosh
July 26th, 2005, 07:42 PM
Interesting that your signature banner has him with the telescope. In that episode, there was something of a departure with the O'Neill character.

See, in the first season, we learn O'Neill is into astronomy and knows terms like accretion disk (Children of the Gods, Singularity). But we see him again in season 6 in the episode Forsaken and Carter is explaining to O'Neill how a celestial event won't be visible until its dark. O'Neill seemed clueless.

debbycake
August 4th, 2005, 09:33 AM
The reason he acts clueless sometimes I think is so that everone will think he doesn't know to much. That way when a problem comes up not everyone is looking to him for a solution.

Qasim
August 4th, 2005, 10:29 AM
The best way to remain anonymous is not to draw attention to yourself

jckfan55
August 4th, 2005, 11:38 AM
I agree. If you want to see RDA getting away from the Mac image a couple of his movies did that much better. In the Eyes of a Stranger and Through the Eyes Of a Killer were particularly big departures from the good guy image for him.

Shelly
Ooh--I'd like to see those. I like him much better as Jack--I was never a big Mac fan.

UhSir
August 10th, 2005, 11:48 AM
See, in the first season, we learn O'Neill is into astronomy and knows terms like accretion disk (Children of the Gods, Singularity). But we see him again in season 6 in the episode Forsaken and Carter is explaining to O'Neill how a celestial event won't be visible until its dark. O'Neill seemed clueless.

Not clueless, just bored.

Oh, and having fun teasing Carter. ;)