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Jaffa King
June 16th, 2004, 10:22 PM
Mine would be: more Teal'c -> Jaffa Resistance & Chulak
more evil egyptian Goa'uld
more stargate exploring

Wrathox
June 16th, 2004, 10:44 PM
More Anubis (hope in some way he survived)

petzke_42
June 16th, 2004, 10:49 PM
More boom-boom, and more guns. More Jack. More Bra'tac. More Jacob.

Anubis
June 16th, 2004, 11:11 PM
Bigger battles. Bigger explosions


And a hell of a lot more Anubis! :D

Jafana
June 16th, 2004, 11:21 PM
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evidently there will be less boom boom stuff (lower dollar rate)
there will likely be no anubis - due to TLC part 2.
there will be less gate travel - lower dollar, and jack's promotion mean more SGC stuff and less off world stuff.
less Jack - due to schedule stuff.

man,you guys are setting yourself up for big disappointments. :p

Anubis
June 16th, 2004, 11:26 PM
You may be right, but I know we see Anubis at the beginning of the season. I'm hoping that he escapes

Beckmen
June 17th, 2004, 01:18 AM
More Jack, more team-oriented stuff, more CG effects, better production values (a lot of the sets like the Goa'uld ships look like plastic!), ect.

ShadowMaat
June 17th, 2004, 03:26 AM
Better stories, more team, more exploration, less politics, less blatant S/J ship and a return to high production values and the sense that the people involved actually CARE about the show and aren't just going through the motions and/or whipping up plots because they HAVE to, not because they want to and have a great idea.

Whitster
June 17th, 2004, 05:42 AM
Why do so many people seem to resent the political side of SG1 I like the way we see how the political system of the US/Earth effects the running of a secret program like the SGC, it's been happening since season one why are people complaining now, after TLC let's face it the UN is gonna need to be broungt in on the project and it could lead to some cool political power struggles in some episodes.

Maybe Dybua could guest, if they tell him the Stargates a paddling pool he might jump in ;)

ShadowMaat
June 17th, 2004, 05:47 AM
I have always hated politics, all of my life and I have always hated the political eps of Stargate. I am objecting now because the way I see it, there are more and more political eps and less and less exploration/alien threat eps. I'm watching Stargate because it's SCIENCE FICTION. If I want politics I'll watch West Wing.

EDIT: Hmm... maybe that should be I watched Stargate... :P

tara3583
June 17th, 2004, 06:00 AM
Sam and Jack to sit down and TALK to each other
about how they feel and i want to see some sort
of fall out about Pete and the way he checked
up on Sam.
More Teal'c, more about the retou oh and i'd love more of what made Stargate great and that
is the history side of things, other than that
what i've read about s8 is looking good to me:)

zebrok
June 17th, 2004, 07:01 AM
Why do so many people seem to resent the political side of SG1 I like the way we see how the political system of the US/Earth effects the running of a secret program like the SGC, it's been happening since season one why are people complaining now, after TLC let's face it the UN is gonna need to be broungt in on the project and it could lead to some cool political power struggles in some episodes.

Maybe Dybua could guest, if they tell him the Stargates a paddling pool he might jump in ;)


:D LOL :D Dubya, paddling pool :D LOL :D

And I'm with you, the politics have always been part of the show. In the storyline, the politics not only make sense but are necessary and may in fact be the most important issue if anyone ever actually wants humanity to become the 5th race. SG-1, the SGC, the USAF and the USA cannot do it alone. Striving towards becoming the 5th Race means politics and dealing with issues here on Earth.

As long as there was an imminent threat to the safety of Earth it was acceptable that the SGC went around doing exploration for the purpose of reconnaissance and gathering tech in order to defend Earth. However, once the imminent threat is contained, the bigger picture must be addressed. In the big picture we are a fractured planet that has no solid footing from which to embark into the community of the galaxy and/or universe. Until we get our own house in order how can we even call ourselves we in our dealings with other planets and peoples.

So what I want in season 8 is exactly what they seem to be moving towards.

Anubis
June 17th, 2004, 07:06 AM
I certainly want more Teal'c and him to actually say something for once!

aAnubiSs
June 17th, 2004, 08:49 AM
What I want is for the SGC to start using tactics. i want them to assault a planet, a naquada mine for example. I want the BC-303 with F-302:s, also carrying some heavier earth stuff. I want snipers, rebel jaffa and bazookas and everything!

I also want more space battles. And more more thing.... i want LONGER battles, not just <1min.

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I also want SGC to start developing new weapons. Like the race on PU. The Kull Warriors for example. Make a rifle that fires small plasma bolts. I also want something like the drone anubis used in TLC1. IMO the tok'ra should help with this. Should also equip the rebel jaffa with better armor, weapons and tactics.

Anubis
June 17th, 2004, 09:02 AM
More battles would be great, but they do have a budget limit for each episode. That's why we generally only see these *big* battles towards the end of the season where they get more money for a finale

Jaffa King
June 17th, 2004, 10:36 AM
I would LOVE to see Apophis again, I'm sure everyone will agree with me that he was(=is?????) the greatest villain ever on Stargate SG1, I know one of the directors or writers or something said that he's dead for good but they can still bring him back! They have done before... TWICE!

Dani347
June 17th, 2004, 11:31 AM
I'd certainly agree he was the greatest villian, but I wouldn't say everyone would.

More Team.

Less ship. Oh, boy, less ship.

Jack to stop acting like Daniel is "Hey, who's that guy?"

Teal'c to have lines.

Earth to not be the biggest baddest indescructable thing in the galaxy. Hey, they created Kryptonite for Superman for a reason. People like their heroes to have weaknesses. Well, I do, anyway.

Dumb!Jack, Cosmic Giddiness!Jack, and I've been frozen way longer than just in The Lost City 2!Jack to exit stage left and be replaced Smart, Sarcastic, Caring!Jack. Remember him?

Stories where the writers think how will this affect Sam as a human, not as The Girl.

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I heard Anubis would be back, and if they have to bring that pile of laundry back, I want Daniel to to have some reaction that shows he's supposedly more than just generic bad guy.

SG_Mike
June 17th, 2004, 12:33 PM
Spoiler response.













Anubis coming back.... Whoah... Not sure what to think of that. I seriously thought is was a done deal. How could any"thing" escape that storm.

David85
June 17th, 2004, 02:10 PM
Spoiler response.













Anubis coming back.... Whoah... Not sure what to think of that. I seriously thought is was a done deal. How could any"thing" escape that storm.

Read the spoilers for the.... 4th? episode for season 8 and it explains how.

bcmilco
June 17th, 2004, 04:11 PM
I would LOVE to see Apophis again, I'm sure everyone will agree with me that he was(=is?????) the greatest villain ever on Stargate SG1, I know one of the directors or writers or something said that he's dead for good but they can still bring him back! They have done before... TWICE!

Personally I'd rather not see Apophis again. Enoughs enough :p

And while I thought he was a good badguy I think Sokar had more potential to be "scary" and Ba'al has more "personal menace".

hezie99
June 18th, 2004, 01:33 AM
theres also a pic from an early ep where u see anubis's spirit by the gate

yabyumpan
June 18th, 2004, 02:35 AM
In contrast to many here I'd like to see less 'boom boom and big battles' ;)
I would like to see:

More team episodes with all the team interacting with Jack

Far, far less ship (of any kind), no more Sam/Jack or Sam/Pete (I really don't care about Sam's love life). No more Teal'c , Jaffa love God (to quote some one else on this forum, sorry I can't remember who, I almost expect to hear Barry White start singing whenever Teal'c's in the same vicinity as a female. Enough already!) That also goes for Daniel and Jack. I don't want to watch Soapgate :(

A return of our allies. I'm not interested in seeing the Earth going it alone.

I would like to see the SGC/USA actually acknowledge that they have no right to be 'spokesman/defender' of Earth and to have other countries activley represtented at the SGC (and I don't just mean the odd Russian who turns up, gets insulted then disappears/dies. Didn't the PTB get the memo about the cold war being over!!!). I'm sure that one of the reasons the 'superior' races wanted very little to do with us is that they could see we're probably more of a danger to ourselves than the Gao'uld are. Come on, this is Sci FI, we can at least pretend that the threat of being wiped out by a non-terrestrial foe would actually bring us to our senses.

Anubis
June 18th, 2004, 07:02 AM
YAY for Anubis! lol

It seems to be his spirit, and I'm really hoping he escapes

David85
June 18th, 2004, 08:38 AM
We aren't getting any more team episode for the rest of the series so we havee to learn to live with it.

Anubis
June 18th, 2004, 08:45 AM
We might, it's just that the ranking of Jack affects the team missions

David85
June 18th, 2004, 09:12 AM
When someone from the show says that the team isn't a team anymore I guess It's not. :)

"SG-1 has evolved as a team (to the point they aren't one)," Cooper said. "They don't really do a lot of going out and exploring other planets type work, just because they've become such experts. And they're more like the high-priced consultants that are called in to deal with the extreme situations as they unfold. So we are able to kind of center the stories much more around the team anyways," despite many stories shifting to the S.G.C. following O'Neill's promotion.

Anubis
June 18th, 2004, 09:23 AM
I know what the interview said, I've read it a couple of times. I'm glad the others get the chance to express their leadership a little more, even though Carter will be running things

Jaffa King
June 18th, 2004, 10:46 AM
We should be happy that O'Neill is there in the first place because he was gonna leave at the end of the 5th or 6th seasons but changed his mind ...
We're lucky we still have if because if Jack leaves, it's the end of the show ...

ShadowMaat
June 18th, 2004, 12:12 PM
We're lucky we still have if because if Jack leaves, it's the end of the show ...
Maybe it would be the end of the show for you but it wouldn't necessarily be the end of the series and there are some here who would keep watching even if RDA left.

Teal'c
June 18th, 2004, 12:55 PM
theres also a pic from an early ep where u see anubis's spirit by the gate
That was already discussed! :P

Those are photos. Not pictures taken from the episode, photos. You can't have a special effect in a photo :P

Anubis
June 18th, 2004, 01:41 PM
Screencaps Teal'c, ye old screencaps! :D

bcmilco
June 18th, 2004, 02:30 PM
When someone from the show says that the team isn't a team anymore I guess It's not. :)

"SG-1 has evolved as a team (to the point they aren't one)," Cooper said. "They don't really do a lot of going out and exploring other planets type work, just because they've become such experts. And they're more like the high-priced consultants that are called in to deal with the extreme situations as they unfold. So we are able to kind of center the stories much more around the team anyways," despite many stories shifting to the S.G.C. following O'Neill's promotion.

Disclaimer: This is my prediction and is only based on the general "feeling" I've gotten from the spoilers, I have nothing to back it up. ;)

My guess is while the team wont be going off world in the same way they will be interating as a team of three (S/D/T) with occasional interations from Jack. Hopefully we'll still get psudo-team (S/D/T) interactions more then we did last year. My guess is that now that Jack is off the team it wont look funny to have team moments where Jack isn't present and thus they'll have them more often. Again JMO. :)

Bagpuss
June 18th, 2004, 02:56 PM
Hope you're proved right,BCM! That's pretty much what I want too. :D

petzke_42
June 18th, 2004, 03:19 PM
theres also a pic from an early ep where u see anubis's spirit by the gate

Where's the spoiler tags :( ??

sshspooky
June 18th, 2004, 03:20 PM
for those wrroied about season 8 loosing quality through less gate travel and explosions due to cost, don't be. just think about how great Angel season 5 was with a much lower budget because of the quality writing. if they writers get the writing right then this season could turn out to be one of the best yet, and I am personally looking forward to this new dynamic with Jack in charge. It seems like the perfect way to re-infigorate the show with something new in the new setup. I'm not sure if SG1 is gonna be a 3 or 4 man team this year, but if it is a 3 man team then i think in season 9 they should spice it up by bringing in a new regular cast member as the 4th member and this additional character and their interaction and integration in to the team would make for a great 9th season.

ShadowMaat
June 18th, 2004, 04:14 PM
for those wrroied about season 8 loosing quality through less gate travel and explosions due to cost, don't be. just think about how great Angel season 5 was with a much lower budget because of the quality writing.
I AM thinking about the quality of the writing. That's what has me so worried! :P

Nolamom
June 18th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Don't get her started on the writers! :p

keshou
June 18th, 2004, 06:46 PM
* Interesting character development that isn't "out-of-character". At the end of season 8 I want to feel that the characters were all utilized well and I don't look back wondering why the heck they didn't do anything with ______. There seemed to be some lost opportunities in season 7; I really hope season 8 is a little better in that regard.

* More tension in the episodes. There were a few times during season 7 that the team was in peril or on an adventure and I found myself looking at the clock.

* Intriguing and *original* story arcs that tie the whole season together.

* Smart commander Jack. Jack became a little too much of a comic-relief character at times in season 7 although I know it was difficult to incorporate RDA's limited time on set. Jack's going to be facing some new responsiblities and challenges - I think it may be time for a little more gravitas to balance out his irreverence.

* More S/D/T team time. Others have said, it but you can't say it enough. One important reason Stargate is successful is the wonderful chemistry between the cast members. Hard to build on that when episodes alternate single cast members interacting primarily with guest stars of the week. I know there are production issues but I'd enjoy seeing S/D/T on adventures together - let them test their wings without Jack.

* Continue trying to incorporate the more creative visual and special effects. I'm not that big a fan of just blowing things up (you can see that on any cop show) but I'm a huge fan of the effects that are uniquely Stargate -- the gravity prison effect in Abyss or the water/rings effect in Descent, or the replicators or the Asgard.

* Better distribution of the episodes that feature single cast members. In season 7 we seemed to get a couple of Daniel episodes, then a Teal'c, then a couple of Sam episodes.

* Better writing cures almost everything. Look how excited the regular cast, the guest stars, the directors, etc. were about "Heroes". It was a good story and good stories make everyone else lift their game.

:) :)

Anubis
June 18th, 2004, 11:58 PM
Wow, Kes. You show some interesting points. I have to agree with everything


Although, I think Jack will have his humour touch

Livi2Jack
June 20th, 2004, 01:47 PM
And waaaaay more Jack as he was in S3 and looking that way too. Longer hair, more weight, a smile now and then...etc, etc, etc. Oh, and ask RDA to start acting again instead of just holding space.

Teal'c
June 20th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Where's the spoiler tags :( ??
No need, it's a lie :P

Teal'c
June 20th, 2004, 02:19 PM
I AM thinking about the quality of the writing. That's what has me so worried! :P
Hey, Joe's back, don't make me point you out to him! :P

ShadowMaat
June 20th, 2004, 02:33 PM
Hey, Joe's back, don't make me point you out to him! :P
He's probably been warned already. :P

As for Jack... if his sense of "humor" is going to involve more tacky vulgarities, I'd just as soon he not speak. Sorry, but that's my personal preference.

Shipperahoy
June 20th, 2004, 02:43 PM
Well my hope for season 8 is better utilization of RDA's limited time. But from what I've been reading it sounds like they're really trying to use him as much as possible. I mean the way they are shooting multiple eps at a time so that they can shoot all of RDA's stuff while he's there sounds like a good idea. It sounds like it must be stressful for the cast and crew, but it sounds to me like he'll be in the episodes more this season than last season. At least that is my hope.

Liebestraume
June 20th, 2004, 03:54 PM
^Ditto to that, and I hope the producers/directors pay particular attention to cohesion of the story arcs. When simultaneously shooting multiple episodes, the actors are likely to have very little idea about the direction of the story line or the sequence of events in an arc, which in turn makes a nuanced performance very difficult.

bcmilco
June 20th, 2004, 05:22 PM
I mean the way they are shooting multiple eps at a time so that they can shoot all of RDA's stuff while he's there sounds like a good idea.

Yeah, but they did that last year too :S

Edited to say: I agree with Shadow about the vulgarity, especially now that Jack is a general. If he's just going to say crass things keep his mouth shut!

Anubis
June 20th, 2004, 11:14 PM
bcm is right, they done this for season seven and look what we got. Unless they plan to do something else like take longer to film a episode or something

Beckmen
June 21st, 2004, 06:12 AM
Yeah, having Jack in charge of the SGC will make better use of his limited time, but TPTB aren't taking advantage of it like they should. There isn't really any team episodes planned, it's going to focus more on 1 or 2 of the charecters each ep like Season 7 did.

Anubis
June 21st, 2004, 06:48 AM
Quite right. It's always good to see a team concept episode

Dani347
June 21st, 2004, 08:02 AM
Wait? You mean SG1 is a team? :rolleyes: I didn't get the memo.

Anubis
June 21st, 2004, 08:05 AM
Hmmm...really? But we should get some more decent eps, for the teams sake!

zebrok
June 22nd, 2004, 08:52 AM
bcm is right, they done this for season seven and look what we got. Unless they plan to do something else like take longer to film a episode or something

Yes they did do the same thing last year by shooting multiple eps at once but that's not a bad thing. They now have a year of experience shooting eps in that manner and most likely have learned from their experiences with S7. For S8 they probably have refined their process. TPTB will most likely be able to better utilize RDA's time on set this time around.

In many ways the two last years were completely new and unsettling for the show. S6 transitioned the show from Showtime (Showtime money really) but they were also breaking in a new cast member and missing another. Then in S7 they lost the routines they developed in S6 with more cast changes- MS was back, Corin was gone and RDA was only there part time. Now finally in S8 they have some continuity again. Even though RDA isn't there full time, this year they are accustomed to it and should be better able to deal with that reality.

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Also, now that Jack doesn't go off-world as much if at all anymore, RDA doesn't have to go on location. That should make a huge difference. No lost days due to weather or the technical difficulties that shooting outside may bring. All of his shots will be in a nice cozy little sound stage. He doesnt have to go anywhere, no travel time eating up his work days either. All in all I think they have found the best way to keep him in the show and maximize their utilization of RDA's time on set by making him General Jack.

Anubis
June 22nd, 2004, 09:52 AM
zebrok, you're right. They've probably learned from their mistake in year seven so they'll be able to aviod this past appearance problem


Now that Jack is behind a desk gives him a reason not to appear as much. They'll probably use the odd excuse like he's finally got that meeting with the President