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Hudson
May 24th, 2005, 12:59 AM
When you turn on phase shifting, how comes you dont fall through the floor? :D

NotAllowedToNameAnything.Ever.
May 24th, 2005, 05:17 AM
Sam: Because the phase shifting matrix enablier is designed to measure the the flow of gravtons over the object and adjust to compensate to fit the horzional postion of the person wearing the phase shifter....
Jack: Colonel.
Sam: It can sense gravity sir. The feild dosen't project dopwnward.
Jack: Ahhh.

Hudson
May 24th, 2005, 07:51 AM
Sam: Because the phase shifting matrix enablier is designed to measure the the flow of gravtons over the object and adjust to compensate to fit the horzional postion of the person wearing the phase shifter....
Jack: Colonel.
Sam: It can sense gravity sir. The feild dosen't project dopwnward.
Jack: Ahhh.

Ahhhh....explained at last :D

sarge
May 24th, 2005, 08:01 AM
Sam: Because the phase shifting matrix enablier is designed to measure the the flow of gravtons over the object and adjust to compensate to fit the horzional postion of the person wearing the phase shifter....
Jack: Colonel.
Sam: It can sense gravity sir. The feild dosen't project dopwnward.
Jack: Ahhh.
WOW!! :eek: Did you just come up with that or is it a quote?
pretty impressive if it's yours.

Jarnin
May 24th, 2005, 01:10 PM
Technobabble has a way of explaining everything.

However, when Daniel was 'phased out' in The Crystal Skull, he should have phased through the floor. Technobabble can't explain that one.

_Owen_
May 24th, 2005, 01:29 PM
It is only technobabble if you do not understand it.

It is possible that Daniel was only phased out far enough to not be visible or audible, but still able to interact with matter in our phase, like the Reetou. If Daniel fell through a wall or something, I appoligize, I don't remember the episode, if he did pass through matter in our phase than my explination does not account for it. It is possible that the device that phased him out, I believe it was the skull, created some sort of natural field below him that allowed him to interact with matter in the direction of the gravtional force relative to his possition.

Owen Macri

Elite Anubis Guard
May 24th, 2005, 01:31 PM
Technobabble has a way of explaining everything.

However, when Daniel was 'phased out' in The Crystal Skull, he should have phased through the floor. Technobabble can't explain that one.
and the filing cabinet!

_Owen_
May 24th, 2005, 01:35 PM
I appoligize, I did not remember those points from the episode, however my second explination is still possible.


It is possible that the device that phased him out, I believe it was the skull, created some sort of natural field below him that allowed him to interact with matter in the direction of the gravtional force relative to his possition.

Owen Macri

Jarnin
May 24th, 2005, 02:17 PM
It is possible that the device that phased him out, I believe it was the skull, created some sort of natural field below him that allowed him to interact with matter in the direction of the gravtional force relative to his possition.
Um, if the skull did it, wouldn't that be an unnatural field?

The word 'Natural' is a huge buzzword these days, and most people using it don't even grasp it's true meaning.
For example, when an advertisement says "All natural" what does that mean? I know what the manufacturer is trying to say, but they're using the word wrong.
Nature includes all things in the universe. That includes us, since according to science, we're a natural product of the universe. Black holes, genetically modified organisms, chocolate chip cookies, nuclear waste, and robots would all be considered natural, because they're products of the natural evolution of the universe.

Sorry, but it bugs me when people don't understand the language they're using.

_Owen_
May 24th, 2005, 02:38 PM
No, an unnatural field would be if the skull projected a field underneath the person at all times, using some sort of mechanical device. I am suggesting that the skull alters a natural function of the body to produce a constant dampening field.

Owen Macri

Jarnin
May 24th, 2005, 02:49 PM
No, an unnatural field would be if the skull projected a field underneath the person at all times, using some sort of mechanical device. I am suggesting that the skull alters a natural function of the body to produce a constant dampening field.

Owen Macri
Alters a natural function? Hello?!? That would be unnatural by definition.

_Owen_
May 24th, 2005, 02:57 PM
It is still being created by the potential function of a normal function. It is still natural, however it is not what we would consider normal. It is not being created by artificial means, altering a natural, normal fuction, to end up having an abnormal function but still a natural one, because if the normal function can be altered to a diffrent one, it was potentialy allways a function of the body, therefore making it a natural one.

Owen Macri

6thMonolith
May 24th, 2005, 04:05 PM
When you turn on phase shifting, how comes you dont fall through the floor? :D

How do you breath?:D:D:p

_Owen_
May 24th, 2005, 04:55 PM
Most of the time you are not completly phase shifted, you can still interact with matter in our phase. There is also the possibility that there is the same type of atmosphere in a particular region in every phase, so you would be breathing oxygen, only oxygen in another phase.

Owen Macri

NotAllowedToNameAnything.Ever.
May 25th, 2005, 05:52 PM
Yes I just made it up, basically the only thing I can think of really is that the natural flow of gravity would dirupt any phase shifting tech. Sort of a natural safe guard. Either that or the tollan and giant aliens had to put somekind of safe guard in. Maybe the flow of gravtons cancels it out. Can only imagine how many test probes they lost to figure that out.

It reminds me of a joke about the men in black movie. How many times did they have to try out the memory eraseing device before the figured out they need the shades.
"Hey i figured it out..."(flash)
"What was I saying."

_Owen_
May 25th, 2005, 06:13 PM
Lol,

"You were just saying how everything that we know about the universe is wrong because..."*flash*

"Damn it!"

And the natural flow of gravity would do nothing they would surley fall through the ground if it wasn't for a safeguard of somesort.


Owen Macri

NotAllowedToNameAnything.Ever.
May 26th, 2005, 07:44 PM
The question I really want to know is how do they still breath if it technaically would shift all matter around them this would include air.

And when you pass through matrials do you have to hold your breath since there isn't no oxygen inside a wall.

_Owen_
May 26th, 2005, 08:16 PM
There are two possibilities for the answer to your question.

1) We know that phase shifting devices can complete there task 1 of three ways. They can phase out the person, they can phase out the wall, or they can phase the wall one direction and the person in the other. With the third option the wall would be phased "in" halfway, so normal matter would still interact with it, and the person would be phased "out" the other way so normal matter could interact with it as well, however the phase diffrence between the wall and person would be so great that that matter would not be able to interact, they would pass through. In this scenario, people would still breath normal air, air in our phase, because they are only phased out "halfway" so they can still interact with matter in our phase.

2. The second possibility is slightly less complicated, it would involve phasing out the person. There is the possibility that the same atmoshperic condtions are constant throught the diffrent phases, so if you are phased out and go to a planet with an oxygen-nitrogen atmosphere, it is possible that there is also an oxygen-nitrogen atmosphere in the phase that you would be occupying.

There is a third "semi-answer" I did not mention it before because it wasn't specifically adressing your question but I might as well post it too.

3. If the person was not phased out and the wall was then obviously the person would still be able to breath the atmosphere in our phase because they have not left our phase.

You see, I didn't mention that because your question reffered to if the person was phased out, that is why I called 3. a "semi-answer."

When passing through matter you would not need to hold your breath because the time spent within a normal sized wall would be instantaneous. Also if 2. is correct than the atmosphere would be occupying the same space as the wall except in that other phase, so there would be no reason to stop breathing. The only way that the atmospheric conditions wouldn't be contained within that space would be if there was a wall in that phase, and then you wouldn't be able to walk through it anyways so you wouldn't have a problem.

Owen Macri

_Owen_
May 26th, 2005, 09:00 PM
I felt the obligation to post this. My previous theory, on expanding the field to encompass the matter below the person is flawed. The matter bellow would simply fall into the Earth along with the matter of the person. However as an alternative I offer the idea that a second field below the person could be created below the person that was phased out only partly so it could interact with the matter below it, keeping it from falling into the Earth, and with the matter in the persons' phase, to support him or her.

However I believe that the idea that I offered in my previous post, under 1., is the most likley.

Owen Macri

NotAllowedToNameAnything.Ever.
May 26th, 2005, 09:12 PM
Anyone else notice besides me that owen has the last post on ever single one of the science and tech sectoin.
:p

_Owen_
May 26th, 2005, 09:15 PM
Oh, Oh, I noticed! lol.

Owen Macri

NotAllowedToNameAnything.Ever.
May 26th, 2005, 09:25 PM
must break line.

_Owen_
May 26th, 2005, 09:38 PM
oooooohh, now that isn't nice! Good luck!

Owen

NotAllowedToNameAnything.Ever.
May 26th, 2005, 09:40 PM
Okay i just had a thought but its a little hard to explain. Though Its a little hard to explain. Think about going to the beach. You can walk on the sand but if you put the right amount of force on the sand you can actually press into it or dig into it. If a peson hit a body of water traveling really fast it would be like hitting concreate but if they just step into the water they just slide through it.

Basically what if the feild simply shifts the matrial enough to wear acctual physical force is required. I hope this makes since to someone.

_Owen_
May 26th, 2005, 09:45 PM
It makes sense, unfortunatly, it doesn't work that way, sorry.

Matter in two diffrent phases, that don't interact with each other, don't interact with eachother, at all, on any level. You could fire the person faster than the speed of light at matter in another phase and they would still pass right on through.

Owen Macri

Lida
May 26th, 2005, 10:00 PM
Anyone else notice besides me that owen has the last post on ever single one of the science and tech sectoin.
:p

You never noticed that before? Owen LOVES to do that! That's how I met him, by starting a thread that read:"The Owen can't post here " Thread...it was a joke and he loved it, but the mods deleted it. :-( I was just "funnin'" him. :D :p

_Owen_
May 26th, 2005, 10:01 PM
That was funny, I was laughing for hours!

Owen

6thMonolith
May 27th, 2005, 09:57 AM
must break line.

Must... Agree...

I never saw the "Owen's not allowed to post here" thread, I just saw Owens responce to it. I had no idea which folder it it was in when the mods trashed it:mad::(:D.

Lida
May 27th, 2005, 10:54 AM
I guess they thought I was being "mean" or something like that.....but it was just a joke. Owen really did enjoy it. He would answer my posts in another thread......it was funny. The only reason I did it was because EVERY name I saw that night, was Owen Macri and I started to convulse with laughter and then the silly idea idea hit me....start a thread that states Owen can't post here.

Guess my type of humor needs some getting used too. :rolleyes: :S

sarge
May 27th, 2005, 11:42 AM
i thought it was funny too :D

_Owen_
May 27th, 2005, 01:00 PM
I guess they thought I was being "mean" or something like that.....but it was just a joke. Owen really did enjoy it. He would answer my posts in another thread......it was funny. The only reason I did it was because EVERY name I saw that night, was Owen Macri and I started to convulse with laughter and then the silly idea idea hit me....start a thread that states Owen can't post here.

Guess my type of humor needs some getting used too. :rolleyes: :S
I think everyone enjoyed it except the mods! That is ok, we had our fun, and we will definetly have more!

Your type of humor is the best kind, you can make people laugh, but not at someone elses expense, I think some other people who will go namless need to lighten up a bit.

Owen