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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 207</FONT>
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SG-1 discovers an ancient artifact that takes O'Neill and the S.G.C. hostage.

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omnian
June 11th, 2004, 11:34 AM
I really like this episode for some reason. One of my favourites of Season 2.

O'Neill dying and being possessed by an alien artefact and Teal'c saying his first 'joke'! What more could you want from an episode? Also, that Graham person and his little crush on Sam......how I laughed, lol. Shame he only pops up a few times throughout the entire series though....

bcmilco
June 11th, 2004, 03:40 PM
It wasn't the most unique idea, but it was done in an interesting way IMO.


Teal'c saying his first 'joke'!

I love Teal'c's attempts at humor, they're all great, mostly because they are completely unexpected ;)


Also, that Graham person and his little crush on Sam......how I laughed, lol.

I thought it was 'cute' the first time I saw it, but with every guy and his brother having a crush on her anymore it looses some of it's originalness, and thus some of it's 'cuteness' IMO.

SeaBee
June 26th, 2004, 04:09 AM
Hmmm, interesting viral lifeform. A hive mind, perhaps?

Selmak
July 10th, 2004, 07:09 PM
That was a good idea... bring a spiky thing back through the stargate.

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 08:40 PM
How do long spiky things come out of a small ball?

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 05:48 PM
again a VERY alien spices... not a cheesy human with an f***ed up forehead and pointy ears.

KorbenDirewolf
July 30th, 2004, 06:47 AM
How do long spiky things come out of a small ball?

The same way a viral lifeform is able to communicate and compromise with an alien species. Or simply put: Magick.

beswicks
August 6th, 2004, 04:13 PM
This episode, at least in part, is an homarge to the film The Andromeda Strain (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066769/) from 1971.

In it they encounter an alien virus that seems to feed on energy, which escapes containment by consuming material. This activates the failsafe system, called wildfire, at which point they postulate that the system detonating will give it enough energy to spread cross the globe.

Although there are no aliens, its basically the same plot, and the same name, wildfire, for the big bomb.

Chris.

Mio
August 6th, 2004, 05:23 PM
I was thinking of the book :)

I didn't like the movie at all.

Sicarius
August 9th, 2004, 04:13 AM
This episode, at least in part, is an homarge to the film Adromeda Strain... Although there are no aliens, its basically the same plot, and the same name, wildfire, for the big bomb.

... So, they should have been taking aspirin instead of antibiotics?;) (Or did the aspirin thing even come into play in the movie version? I don't think I've ever seen it.)

Asgard Buddy
August 17th, 2004, 06:37 AM
Couldn't the aliens have left a note next to their little ball or something? "Don't touch unless you want to be impaled"

SeaBee
September 19th, 2004, 09:57 AM
Couldn't the aliens have left a note next to their little ball or something? "Don't touch unless you want to be impaled"

They could have, but then it would have been a very short ep.

Opening credits

Jack: "Look what I've found. Shall we take it home with us?"
Sam: "Hey look! There's a sign here! What does it say, Daniel?"
Daniel: "Uh.....hang on.......it says "dont touch unless you want to be impaled".......best we leave it alone."
Teal'c: "Indeed!" Raises eybrow.

End credits. :D :D :D

Uncle Dick
September 21st, 2004, 12:02 PM
That was a good idea... bring a spiky thing back through the stargate.
To be fair, it didn't turn spiky until Carter started fiddling with it back on Earth.

I found the whole storyline a bit dull (and somewhat similar to Cold Lazarus but the execution was brilliant, with soaring music, exciting camera shots and wonderful character moments for the entire cast.

Lord Zedd
September 21st, 2004, 12:50 PM
I found it cool when O'Neill was taken over by the virus and he said goodmorning campers funny :D :D and how it struck oneill right through it's sholder and he didn't bleed Poor Jack he had a lot of pain

SeaBee
September 25th, 2004, 05:18 AM
I supposed that the viral lifeform didn't want him to bleed to death.
That and the fact that if they had shown blood dripping off his wound, or running down the spike, the certificate for the episode would have been higher.

sueKay
September 28th, 2004, 02:52 AM
I love the episode (even though there is major Jack whumping)

It's an intriguing idea. A whole civilisation in a time capsule.

6 out of 9 chevrons!

mishy_mo
October 4th, 2004, 02:46 PM
i lkied this ep it's one of my faves from the second series

only problem was that jack was possesed :eek: :eek: :eek:

Spiderman
October 23rd, 2004, 03:01 AM
I found it cool when O'Neill was taken over by the virus and he said goodmorning campers funny :D :D and how it struck oneill right through it's sholder and he didn't bleed Poor Jack he had a lot of pain
yeah howdy campers :D funny

Daniel's_twin
November 9th, 2004, 06:34 PM
Poor Jack. He's always the one who get poked with stuff. First this, then later on in "Spirits", he gets shot with that Trinium arrow. He gets no mercy.

Anyway, I thought that idea of a time capsule for a civilization was pretty cool. It was another episode where the lifeforms were organic and didn't look like us, which is very cool. Kinda felt sorry for Daniel when he was frustrated because he couldn't study it as much as he wanted to (before it went bezerk, that is). I can't help but think, what would have happened if the NID had gotten to it first? oy! Say hello to the new dominant species on Earth - the glowy virus! dun dun dunnn! :cool:

zats
December 19th, 2004, 10:06 AM
Can you imagine Kinsey turning spiderwebbed blue and glowing? That'd be so cool! :D

Elite Anubis Guard
January 4th, 2005, 04:38 AM
this was an interesting episode, another nod at the other lifeforms in the galaxy aswell as a nod at other races more advance than the goa'uld.

some nice development for teal'c and carters smarts!

Sha're
February 10th, 2005, 12:37 PM
Poor Jack, spending most of the episode skewered to the wall - but he does an excellent job of it and this is a good episode.

SmartFox
February 14th, 2005, 09:45 PM
Good ep. Liked Teal'c and his first joke. Also like his non understanding of booby trap.

greytop
February 14th, 2005, 10:56 PM
I like it when the turned off the light in the gate room and turn off the black lights. The aliens were a pretty color blue.

Don't tell they were probably white in color and that the light made it seemed that way. I know that. But is still was pretty.

ShimmeringStar
February 28th, 2005, 08:36 AM
I like it when the turned off the light in the gate room and turn off the black lights. The aliens were a pretty color blue.

Don't tell they were probably white in color and that the light made it seemed that way. I know that. But is still was pretty. :D I agree, the lighting/blue aliens were great. RDA also did pain great this ep (even if the voice reminded me of his Broca Divide Neanderthal speech). Loved Teal'c's first ‘official joke’ - "Undomesticated equines could not remove me." :)

PugGate
March 25th, 2005, 10:01 AM
Okay, before you shoot the pessimist/plot destroyer, listen to his infinite wisdom (Yes, I've had too much caffeine this morning) :D :D :D :D :D :


1. Right before the orb shoots out the poles, you can clearly see little white painted lines on the wall that resemble a certain blue line network that just happens to be on the same wall later in the ep... hmmmm, interesting

2. Why did the Wildfire program set the autodestruct for 3 hours? If containment had been breached, shouldn't wildfire have immediately set off the autodestruct?

3. It looks like it's literally eating through the Lieutenant. Pretty good make-up job.

4. "So it was written" "We will consume and multiply" Kinda sounds like some freakish prophecy. Right?

5. And there's no gaping wound where the pole thingy went through Jack? sure...

(If you think I've gone off the deep end, don't do what I did and have ice cream for breakfast!)

greytop
March 25th, 2005, 12:08 PM
Okay, before you shoot the pessimist/plot destroyer, listen to his infinite wisdom (Yes, I've had too much caffeine this morning) :D :D :D :D :D :

(If you think I've gone off the deep end, don't do what I did and have ice cream for breakfast!)Your weren't a pessimist/plot destoryer, IMO. You were stating you opinion. :)

I had to LOL with about the carffenin and the icecream. :D

Heru'urs_first_prime
August 3rd, 2005, 05:13 AM
poor Jack (im staying on subject :D )

KorbenDirewolf
August 3rd, 2005, 03:40 PM
5. And there's no gaping wound where the pole thingy went through Jack? sure...

I think the doctor said something about that point. Can't recall what she said though.

Heru'urs_first_prime
August 5th, 2005, 06:28 AM
i can remember either...erm.....na, can't remember! but its no ordinary wound

Darkstar
August 23rd, 2005, 09:31 AM
in one word rubbish

.:Lemon:.
September 4th, 2005, 07:03 AM
in one word rubbish

I didn't think it was that bad! :p It gave us the classic 'Wild Horses' joke! Not a great episode, but not one of the worst I've seen

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 02:22 AM
it wasnt rubish, RDA acts brillaint and so do the others the idea was great but it wanst rubbish

walter_MacChevron
September 13th, 2005, 07:25 PM
Meh.......it was kinda cheesy and REALLY overdone episode title.......but when they went onto the moon-like planet in the beginning.......that was cool

GLink
December 24th, 2005, 09:28 AM
I really enjoyed Teal'c in this episode. His determination for Jack was some of the best I've seen. The SGC never had a better soldier.

captain jake
May 9th, 2006, 04:52 PM
Its so true this episode started teal'c and jacks true bond .

Pharaoh Atem
May 23rd, 2006, 07:41 PM
ouch !!!! and this was a good teal'c epsiode

captain jake
May 25th, 2006, 04:56 AM
Ya It definately was, I loved how he was so worried about jack. (Priceless)

DigiFluid
July 18th, 2006, 11:08 AM
Unorthodox solution: tilt the gate forward and turn it on again, vaporize the ball in the kawoosh.

DigiFluid
July 18th, 2006, 11:12 AM
Oh, and did anyone else notice than Daniel and Sam got no sleep in three days in this episode?

They brought the artifact back on day 1, Jack walks into the room and shouts "good morning campers!" at the beginning of day 2, and the virus infects the computers late at night the same day, and the problem is solved early on day 3.

They looked pretty damned good for people who hadn't slept in that long.

Sheppard
July 19th, 2006, 08:44 PM
yeah maybe they slept for a second or a few seconds then got woken up again

Spacegirlnz
July 28th, 2006, 06:27 PM
Hey, I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet.

I'm watching this episode again. In the little teaser bit before the opening credits when SG-1 is walking on the moon-like planet, did anyone notice that their footsteps echoed? It made me laugh.

OrangeShipper
December 22nd, 2006, 02:29 AM
i like this episode!!

About the no sleep thing, Daniel does look pretty zonked just before he figures it out... And has VERY hairy hands, I noticed!!

The possessed "good morning campers" was REALLY spooky!! It gave me the shivers!!

RDA and Chris Judge are fantastic in this ep!! I know Jack didn't DO much, but he worked the pain thing well (he actually screamed like a girl... It was quite hot, it a very wrong kinda way... Sorry!). I mean, HOW much would that WRECK??!!

One other thing I noticed, to do with it being quite early in the whole Stargate thing still; Hammond was less ready to trust Carter as he is in later series. I mean, thats fairly obvious, but I just noticed it. Like, she has to explain why she thinks something will work, instead of in later seasons she just says "we should do this!" and Hammonds like "do it!" without any questions.

Sorry for the randomness!

angelfire east
December 22nd, 2006, 08:25 PM
i like this episode!!

About the no sleep thing, Daniel does look pretty zonked just before he figures it out... And has VERY hairy hands, I noticed!!

The possessed "good morning campers" was REALLY spooky!! It gave me the shivers!!

RDA and Chris Judge are fantastic in this ep!! I know Jack didn't DO much, but he worked the pain thing well (he actually screamed like a girl... It was quite hot, it a very wrong kinda way... Sorry!). I mean, HOW much would that WRECK??!!

I love this episode, it been so long since I've seen it.

MS can do sleeply very well:D Sometimes I wonder if they flim scenes liek that int he morning or at the end of the day which adds to it:lol:

Yeah that was creepy. Early in the episode I loved it when Jack said it.

They where great, I loved Teal'c telling a joke. Trying to make his best friend feel better. I bet he had been working on it for a while:D

I also really loved Sam holding Jack's hand. I'm such a biggger shipper at times lol.


One other thing I noticed, to do with it being quite early in the whole Stargate thing still; Hammond was less ready to trust Carter as he is in later series. I mean, thats fairly obvious, but I just noticed it. Like, she has to explain why she thinks something will work, instead of in later seasons she just says "we should do this!" and Hammonds like "do it!" without any questions.

I noticed that, he's competely trusts her judgment in the laster seasons. Many times she doesn't even have to explain things. Not all the time (nor should it be all the time, she is human and can be wrong)

Harlan's Speechwriter
March 30th, 2007, 12:28 PM
RDA and CJ did a great job in this episode. Yes, RDA didn't have to actually [I]do[I]that much, but quite often that's the hardest part to act.

The entire episode has to be worth it for Teal'c's 'undomesticated equines' joke.

HelloVelo
June 8th, 2008, 11:01 PM
They should have named this episode "Jack Kabob."

Rating: 4/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/06/message-in-bottle.html

captain jake
June 27th, 2008, 02:36 PM
They should have named this episode "Jack Kabob."

Rating: 4/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/06/message-in-bottle.html

I really thought this was a good episode, I don't understand why you didn't like it. I mean we finally get to go to a planet that doesn't look like a Canadian national park, the SGC goes through a severe takeover that could have destroyed heir entire planet. Most importantly we see another life form that exists completely outside our normal idea of civilization.

I would give it at least a 6/10

L E E
July 5th, 2008, 05:43 AM
"booby?" "undomesticated equines" LOL! gotta love tealc. and what loyal friend to o'neill he is. he always seems to know what o'neill is thinking. i didn't hear o'neill say that he wanted the orb shot.

ahhh, sg1's curiosity strikes again. how many lives do they have left? i lost count and it's only the second season. i really can't fault them for bringing the object back to earth. like tea'lc said, the benefits outweigh the risks, at least the risks they are aware of.

awww. someone's got a crush on carter. and he's a cutie too! and it was funny when daniel was caught whispering to sam. but poor guy. he got infected so fast.

oooh. i see silver hair.

but oh my, i can't look. poor jack. gods. uber pain. but i'm glad to see that the SGC people are showing good teamwork to save their favorite colonel.

carter! there's an orb that's eating through everything! why take the elevator?! smart people really can be stupid sometimes.

autodestruct sequence activated. again. figures.

so cool to see another alien species that is not humanoid in form. kinda like the one in cold lazarus. however, these non-humanoid life forms seem to target jack a lot.

and hey! chevron guy davis is back! what happened to him? why was he gone in a few eps?

to sum up, this was a very good ep for me. totally an ensemble episode. i enjoyed all the characters.

Ulkesh47
July 5th, 2008, 12:47 PM
and hey! chevron guy davis is back! what happened to him? why was he gone in a few eps?

Glad to see I'm not the only one to appreciate his unsurpassed talents calling out chevrons.

But I prefer to call him Walter Harriman.

captain jake
July 6th, 2008, 04:24 AM
Carter! there's an orb that's eating through everything! why take the elevator?! smart people really can be stupid sometimes.

The only other way to go up or down are those emergency ladders... I'm pretty sure she was in a hurry and didn't have time to be climbing up and down between 10 or 20 floors. Stupid people can be really stupid sometimes...

pritnep
August 2nd, 2008, 10:05 PM
RDA and CJ did a great job in this episode. Yes, RDA didn't have to actually do that much, but quite often that's the hardest part to act.

They certainly did, although I'm not a fan of this episode I have always found it boring.

I did like the different planet though and the space suit walk. Teal'c had some funny moments like others have suggested.

Hammond's line "we've broke things back from all over the galaxy, one of them has finally bit us in the ass" was a good one and so very true it is. I'm of the belief (and I know it gets established much later in the series) but an off world Alpha site set-up similar to the SGC where teams could bring back artefacts first and do tests, risk assessment there rather then causing a risk to earth it would be another planet with a much smaller team etc.

I noticed that Lieutenant called it the gate room, but Walter still called it the embarkation room. Walter is back. :D

Pic
September 9th, 2008, 12:07 PM
OK, I know it's been said... but it's just so good!

Jack: You think it might be a booby trap?
Teal'c: Booby?
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/Pic-CollSwan/SGM/messageinabottle01.jpg

:lol:

Throw in some Sam/Daniel geek-banter (and getting caught talking about the other geek in the monitoring room) & the classic 'undomesticated equines' and I enjoyed this more this time than I remembered enjoying it the first time.

Teal'c: Booby?
*snort

L E E
September 24th, 2008, 05:45 AM
OK, I know it's been said... but it's just so good!

Jack: You think it might be a booby trap?
Teal'c: Booby?
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/Pic-CollSwan/SGM/messageinabottle01.jpg

:lol:

Throw in some Sam/Daniel geek-banter (and getting caught talking about the other geek in the monitoring room) & the classic 'undomesticated equines' and I enjoyed this more this time than I remembered enjoying it the first time.

Teal'c: Booby?
*snort

:lol: yeah. i never get tired of that part either. or this episode.

ZOMG!b_cs
November 21st, 2008, 08:46 AM
I like the booby line, too. *snort

I also liked the scene where Sam was holding Jack's hand. But I'm becoming a Sam/Jack shipper, so of course I noticed that. ;)

Butlersgate
February 23rd, 2009, 11:06 AM
teal'c says "booby" who can ask for more? and he also says his first joke :D

Starbreaker
April 3rd, 2009, 01:35 PM
This episode was above average for me. I really liked the teaser. Seeing them start out on a planet where the planet wasn't smack dab in the middle of the woods was interesting.

The Stig
April 21st, 2009, 01:11 PM
That looked really, really, really painfull (the orb going through jack)

Detritus
May 13th, 2009, 09:24 AM
Did anyone else notice the homage to the movie The Andromida Strain?

Hammond: In the event of a containment failure wildfire kicks in automaticly.

It;s a direct quote from the movie.

drewandian
June 3rd, 2009, 06:19 PM
5. And there's no gaping wound where the pole thingy went through Jack?




I think the doctor said something about that point. Can't recall what she said though.


Janet does mention it...she says something about it looking like the wound's been cauterized as the spike went through or something like that.

I just watched this ep again today and have to say that i really like this one....and the Teal'cisms are FANTASTIC!!!

VSS
June 3rd, 2009, 07:39 PM
Yes, I just happened to watch this episode today as well. I did like the scene with Teal'c and Jack- the "undomesticated equines" joke is funny- but I had forgotten the context, which isn't funny at all. It was a touching moment.

mrscopterdoc
February 17th, 2010, 08:41 PM
This was fantastic. Jack is okay in the end, and Teal'c tells a joke! :D

Jacquelyn
April 5th, 2010, 07:20 PM
Squeee!! XD I loved this episode, because the part when Jack is struck by the alien entity it's just an intense moment for the whole team. And holy hanna!! When Sam went to talk to Jack and she held his hand...it was sooo sweet! <3 :P

Seaboe Muffinchucker
June 15th, 2010, 12:47 PM
Why can Jack move his left arm? Shouldn't the fact that he can't move his shoulder blade mean he can't move his arm above the elbow?

Seaboe

hlndncr
June 16th, 2010, 10:14 AM
Why can Jack move his left arm? Shouldn't the fact that he can't move his shoulder blade mean he can't move his arm above the elbow?

Seaboe

I just watch this episode yesterday and I didn't notice Jack moving his left arm. Could you point out where you saw it?

hlndncr
June 16th, 2010, 10:18 AM
I've always really liked this episode. One thing I consider memorable is the lighting. That erie purple glow as the organism climbs the walls of the gateroom and infects Jack gives you a sense of danger, and the low lights create a somber tone.

I abosolutely love the scenes with Jack and Teal'c. You know from the start they identify with one another as warriors (who have sacrificed a lot and done many things they are not particularly proud of), but you see such care between them in these scenes. It's not a side either show very often and it was beautifully done.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
June 16th, 2010, 02:36 PM
I just watch this episode yesterday and I didn't notice Jack moving his left arm. Could you point out where you saw it?

Right after it happens. He grabs the spear (for lack of a more accurate term) with both hands and his left elbow is well out from his side.

Seaboe

hlndncr
June 16th, 2010, 08:44 PM
Right after it happens. He grabs the spear (for lack of a more accurate term) with both hands and his left elbow is well out from his side.

Seaboe

Oh yeah. I do remember that. I guess that was a lot of movement.

Martina Magnus
July 15th, 2010, 11:08 PM
Squeee!! XD I loved this episode, because the part when Jack is struck by the alien entity it's just an intense moment for the whole team. And holy hanna!! When Sam went to talk to Jack and she held his hand...it was sooo sweet! <3 :P

haha you totally love this ep :) I can't argue with this ... :D 100% agree :D

maneth
July 22nd, 2010, 11:41 AM
Great ep. I loved the interaction between Teal'c and Jack, not to mention the Lieutenant's crush on Sam. So sweet!

Tallifer
September 11th, 2010, 04:13 PM
I loved the opening: a moon surface instead of the usual sand pits or Canadian boreal forest, and the cave with the artifact was evocative as well.

However, the story as a whole was dull and not very believable for me. If the alien race was so alien, how could we ever expect to commuicate. Indeed how could a viral hive have recognizable sentience? If the race is just a huge viral swarm, why could it not survive on an airless moon? (I guess it needed biological life on which to feed and subsist.)

HolyAngelQueenSG-1
December 12th, 2010, 10:44 PM
I love it!!! :-D
Jack: Ugh! My shoulder left is HOT. Oh crap!!
Sam: Jack O'Neill, you are ok? i love you. *hand hold jack's hand*
Teal'C: I will fire shot hits the Spike ball with virus. *blaze shots*
Jack: *scream pain*
Daniel: That Happened is the Spike Ball had Computer is self?!
Sam: *worrying at Jack* the virus from Animal cell.

the Spike ball with Virus....... Damn it.

Noxbait
January 28th, 2011, 06:36 PM
The most dangerous words in the universe:

"Jack/Colonel, can we take it home?"

Pretty, shiny little alien object on a pedestal...you just KNOW this is not going to end well!!!

booby? : )

Love the entire scene with Daniel/sam and Simmons. Love their reactions when Simmons says they're recording. They both look up at the same time, adorable! And Daniel's oops is just too cute. That scene really makes the two of them seem like siblings. I love moments like that, far too few...but makes me think of the whole situation in Arthur's Mantle where they are out of phase together. Its cute how Sam puts her hand on his shoulder later when he's feeling bad because he can't use the information, just before Jack walks in.

Ouch! I've seen it how many times, yet I'm still absolutely cringing when Jack gets skewered. Oh the total awesomeness of Teal'c! I love how he basically implicitly trusts Jack. They think the same way and he just does whatever he's told. This was a nice episode that highlighted Jack and Teal'c's friendship. Love teh joke part, Jack almost doesn't get it at first. Really nice interactions between them.

I like that this mishap really wasn't anyone's fault. Everyone wanted it to be worthwile, there was no real indication it was a problem, so there are no arguments and finger pointing going on.

Janet is amazing. Calm and collected in the face of "I have no idea!"

Oooh...it's trying to communicate with us!!! Daniel's favorite. As long as there is communication there is hope. no matter what/who it is...he'll try to talk to it.
I love how Daniel always has a gate address on the tip of his tongue. :
Great character study episode (of all the team really).

FrodoFraggins
March 21st, 2011, 11:59 PM
7.5/10

It was pretty good. My failed solution would have been to cut O'Neill out surgically, leaving no means of communication. It just seemed inhumane to leave him up there after it was clear that the orb wouldn't allow the pole holding him to be cut.

muziqaz
August 28th, 2011, 05:41 AM
Jack and Teal'c, strong bond. Wild horses :D
Jack and Sam hand holding...

Anyway, great episode, enjoyed it a lot even though I watched it not too long ago.
It was weird seeing that SG1 was sent with suits to that planet, I would have thought that if MALP shows that the planet is with alien environment but has something interesting to offer, they would send some other team to do further research, while leaving SG1 for some other missions. But that's nothing, anyways.
And what is it with Sam and those one episode crushes? :D

LeftHandedGuitarist
September 6th, 2011, 02:39 PM
I find it difficult to enjoy this one as a whole, although it has some mini-moments scattered throughout which are great. The opening shot is wonderful and so different from anything we've seen before, and Jack being skewered is really well done and looks so painful. Even worse is the moment when Siler has just about finished cutting and the red-hot jagged metal slides right into Jack! Nasty stuff.

But this episode is so melodromatic! "In 3 hours the entire Earth will be consumed!", "God help us!", "Sir, I'm asking you to trust me!", "We won't give in without a fight!", "You're damn right we won't!". It's like a 12 year old wrote the dialogue, and then we get the most cringeworthy unnecessary over-the-top moment of all - stopping the self-destruct with 1 second remaining. Please.

As I said, though, the little moments scattered throughout save it. Teal'c and Jack together is touching and very nicely done, and I enjoy Daniel and Sam working together ("Oops. Hey, the artifact!"). Plus, it's always nice to encounter a genuinely alien alien. The whole sequence when the orb wakes up to moment it skewers Jack is masterfully shot and edited, and the sound effects and music are great.

RATING: 5 out of 10

hlndncr
September 7th, 2011, 11:41 AM
My opinion of this episode hasn't changed. I still like it a lot. I think there's great action and suspense. The team all work flat out to save Jack. The aliens are interesting and the solution is innovative and took a total team effort.

Plus Sam's little protege Lt. Simmons is sweet. I wouldn't have minded seeing him more. ;)




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dtheories
September 8th, 2011, 08:50 PM
Not much to add not already noted: the intrigue of discovering an energy source lasting 1000 years outweighing the potential booby trap is what keeps SG-1 ticking. And I too cringe each time I see that blade stick through Jack. The pain etched in his face throughout the majority of the ep is testament to RDAs abilities.
Beyond Teal'c standing by Jack with such affection, and someone in love with Sam surviving, the best moment might have been when Hammond asks Frasier what it was she just gave him after being shot with the antibiotic!

LeftHandedGuitarist
September 9th, 2011, 01:42 AM
the best moment might have been when Hammond asks Frasier what it was she just gave him after being shot with the antibiotic!

That did make me chuckle! Seemed a very odd character moment.

Jae'a
September 9th, 2011, 08:55 AM
Only 4 pages? Aw, one of my faves..
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/8662.html)

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
September 9th, 2011, 03:59 PM
An okay episode. First appearance of Siler (I think).

Next week, we lead up to our first meeting of the Tok'ra and Jacob Carter.

Krisz
September 9th, 2011, 04:25 PM
One of my favourite episodes of the season.

HAMMOND: You have nothing to apologise for son, we've brought back things from all over the galaxy; one of them's finally snapped us in the 'ass' (Hammond's pronunciation - phonetic spelling! :P).

Sums up the triumphs and disasters of being part of the SGC! :D :p

I remember this as giving me one hell of a jaw dropping moment when I watched Jack being skewered by the orb the first time. It's still as wince inducing with countless viewings as the first time. It was I agree very well done.

One of the very few episodes in Stargate as a whole that had a completely different alien looking world that they step out onto through the gate, and a very alien 'alien'.

With the cliched one second left on the self destruct countdown I just couldn't help thinking of the wonderful parody of the 'final second' in Galaxy Quest! Walter breathing that sigh of relief is one of those great little moments Stargate throws in.

LeftHandedGuitarist
September 10th, 2011, 12:02 AM
First appearance of Siler (I think).

I think his first appearance was season 1's 'Solitudes' ... not 100% though.

Lieutenant Sparrow
September 10th, 2011, 02:54 AM
I think his first appearance was season 1's 'Solitudes' ... not 100% though.

Yeah I remember seeing him in an earlier ep as well.

I think this is a great ep. Full of emotion. Great performance from RDA.

Krisz
September 10th, 2011, 01:02 PM
I think his first appearance was season 1's 'Solitudes' ... not 100% though.

I think it was too.

jlovette
September 11th, 2011, 01:49 PM
Jack and Teal'c's relationship has always been my favorite of the show. This episode is one of the reasons why. Some great moments between the two.

SaraBahama
September 11th, 2011, 07:38 PM
This episode has always been one of my favorites, for many of the reasons already listed:

The opening scene -truly 'alien'
The entity in the orb -also very 'alien'
RDA's acting -it was easy to believe the pain he was displaying.
The effects with the lighting and the purple glowing trails up the walls.
One of the best lines in SG-1: "Undomesticated equines could not remove me"
The cute moment when Daniel tells Sam about Simmons having a crush on her.
Sam holding Jack's hand and asking him to trust her -even while leveling with him that he might not survive.

The one second to spare on the self destruct I could have done without -Jack hates cliches after all...

Lieutenant Sparrow
September 12th, 2011, 01:31 AM
I forgot to mention.

Sam: You think it might be a booby trap?
Teal'c: Booby?

jelgate
September 12th, 2011, 04:47 PM
Its a filler and a bottle episode and I think it shows.

I find the episode quite dull. Nothing ground breaking about the episode. Nothing new is learned in plot arc and the development of character interaction. I find the plot overly simplistic and done before. The only interesting part is the alien talking to SG1 from Jack's body.

Starscape91
September 14th, 2011, 09:56 PM
This was an okay episode I like that it showed the SGC has to be more careful about what they bring back to Earth from now on. One thing I never understood was the point of Graham in the episode.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
September 16th, 2011, 06:01 PM
This is one of my favorite episodes, and always has been. I noticed quite early on that my favorites were all what I call "torture Jack" episodes (Cold Lazarus, Solitudes, Heroes, Lost City, etc.).

ETA: forgot to mention that Lt. Simmons shows up in a season 6 episode, too. I loved the fact that on his next appearance (which is in season 2), there's no mention of how sick he was. I like that "take it for granted" attitude.

Seaboe

Krisz
September 17th, 2011, 02:45 PM
This was an okay episode I like that it showed the SGC has to be more careful about what they bring back to Earth from now on. One thing I never understood was the point of Graham in the episode.

I suppose the appearance of Graham was an effort to show a bit more of the support staff in the background at the SGC. Siler and Walter became more of a feature as time went on in an effort to redress this issue I guess. I suppose it was to show the wider effect of what something SG-1 brought back to Earth and the possible consequences.

Matt G
September 18th, 2011, 02:22 PM
Another Sunday afternoon...another SG1 ep to catch up on...not sure if I've seen it since then or not.

1. Seeing SG1 on a lunar surface was certainly a change.

2. Couldn't rewatch the ep without remembering what Chris did in the suit.

3. Ah, Graham Simmons, this is where he showed up...

4. Forgot about all the red herrings and the auto destruct.

5. 10 seconds to go and the 'still' got the codes in? Even I couldn't type that fast, particularly under that sort of pressure!

A decent little standalone.

Jae'a
September 20th, 2011, 08:47 AM
5. 10 seconds to go and the 'still' got the codes in? Even I couldn't type that fast, particularly under that sort of pressure!
I always think, imagine if they'd made a typo! :eek:

Noxbait
September 20th, 2011, 05:06 PM
I always think, imagine if they'd made a typo! :eek:

"crap! the key stuck!" ....boom....

:)

moondragon
October 23rd, 2011, 07:32 PM
Good episode with amazing quotes and even more amazing acting by RDA. You could feel his pain and desperation when he was stabbed by the alien device. When the device inserts itself deeper, his cry of pain is heart wrenching. Some of the best things to come from this epi were the quotes. Oh! and the banter between Sam and Daniel over Simmons and his crush...which he could hear :D
*Sam "could have been active since neanderthals were the still the dominant species"
Jack "Ahh that takes me back"
*Sam "do you think it could be a booby trap?" Teal'c "Booby?"
*Jack "You dont have to stay here" Teal'c "undomesticated equines could not move me"
Jack "Wild horses Teal'c. It's wild...that's a joke. You told a joke. Don't make me laugh"

ChulaksPrincess
November 8th, 2011, 03:39 PM
The undomesticated Equine/wild horses joke was so funny. Teal'c learned fast. His loyalty to his best friend Jack really shone through. Sam's struggle to find a solution to help Jack and the planet was touching. Sam never gave up, but kept trying different things until she found the right solution. "It won't take us without a fight, Sir," showed her strength and determination, that if she had to go down, she would go down fighting. Sam is truly a soldier with great courage.

Dimes
December 22nd, 2011, 10:57 AM
Interesting technology I must say, good episode.

Vanysh
July 10th, 2012, 12:31 PM
I'm not a fan of the Simmons side-story of him having a crush on Samantha Carter. Just seems tacked on. Why should we care for this character? We shouldn't. RDA gives an outstanding performance though and it was great to see the friendship between O'Neill and Teal'c grow stronger.

Sam-n-Jack-in-<3
July 26th, 2012, 10:10 AM
This episode is pretty good, another illustration of how close the team has gotten.

OUCH! That spear-thing popping out always makes me wince. Poor Jack! :(

Those blue, glowy lines going into the walls are just plain freaky...*shudders*

"Undomesticated Equines," LOL! One of Teal'cs best lines. :D

Good episode. :)

Major Clanger
December 27th, 2012, 10:42 AM
Another ep I've only seen snatches of so it was nice to see it from the beginning.

they took WAY too long to get something under Jack's feet. The UV unites made Mr.MC shout "they're Daleks".

Poor Graham, "what's happening to me" how come the doc didn't shout something like "isolate him"

Not a bad ep though, and some nice team bonding.

ETA: Mr.MC shouted - when everything went black suddenly: the alien life forms switched it off at the wall. That's elementary.

2nd ETA: why would the Ancients have put a gate on a primordial world?

Falcon Horus
May 27th, 2013, 07:01 AM
Well, that was some message in a bottle. :S

Again not one of my favorite episodes really.

Graham is cute... :D
And Sergeant Davis' visible gulp at the end when the selfdestruct is aborted with mere seconds to spare. :p

"Undomesticated equines could not remove me." -- still makes me giggle.

Also, in the beginning in the wide shot there's no Malp rolling behind or in front of them. Nor is it behind or in front of them when they enter the structure. Carter mentions that something was emitting an EM-pulse, thus not knowing what is emitting the pulse. They decide to take the orb with them, Teal'c picks it up and poof, all of a sudden there's a Malp. It must have appeared out of nowhere. :p

I also caught myself trying to find camera crew in their visors' reflections. :p