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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 205</FONT>
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Jackson becomes addicted to the effects of a Goa'uld sarcophagus, and falls for the planet's manipulative princess.

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[omnian]

I think Daniel plays a psycho really well in this one, lol. A little too well if you ask me.........kinda scared me actually!

[Iskandra]

Oh, it's not "psycho" at all, it's just how people with a really dangerous addiction behave like..."psycho" would be "Legacy" Daniel ;)

[omnian]

Ah yes, how could I forget Legacy! :)

Micheal Shanks' portrayal of such a condition is very convincing. Definitely one of his finest moments......his excellent acting that is, lol.

[SeaBee]

there is definately a pattern to MS' acting, IMO. Whenever he is asked to play a nutter, lunatic or Psycho, he does it really well. Does this say anything about him? :D

[Selmak]

This episode further extends the understanding of the Goa'uld's evilness.

[AgentX]

This episode I LOATHED Daniel, and since we were supposed to, I guess Michael Shanks did his job very well. I can't recall how many times I yelled out at the screen: "Oh just kill him Jack!". This is one of the episodes I don't think I can rewatch from Season 2 because it just makes me angry :)

[Mio]

Spoilers season 7, evolution





I hope we fix the sarc with the ancient healing device....which i ASSUME we didn't give to the Tok'Ra....

[aAnubiSs]

It's unbelievable... despite being a few million years less advanced having a TV-show about you fixes everything. Maybe I should start making movies about my life... that would proably get me somewhere... like jail.

[Selmak]

I can't recall how many times I yelled out at the screen: "Oh just kill him Jack!".
I didn't yell it... but I sure thought it.

[Selmak]

well it does further explain the evilness of the Goa'uld.

[Asgard Buddy]

well it does further explain the evilness of the Goa'uld.
I'm glad that it does. While it doesn't make me sympathize with the Goa'uld at all it does give us a lot of information as to why they are as crazy and power hungry as they are.

But boy was Daniel freaky.

The only problem I had was that Shyla said she had never used the sarcophagus yet when Daniel returned he told her she had to stop using it and that it would be hard without it. That was the only inconsistency that really bothered me.

[LMichelle]

Shyla didn't use it, but she witnessed its effects and decided that was the way to keep Daniel with her.

MS did a great job as a Sarcophagus-addicted Daniel. My favorite line was when he yelled back at Jack. "No, you look Jack. . ." :p

Lisa Michelle

[Daniel's_twin]

This was a high point in MS' acting career. He played this part very well. :cool:

[jckfan55]

Did any one mention how the sarcophagus seems to have a hair styling setting? Daniel's hair is much more coiffed when he comes out of it.

[Daniel's_twin]

I can see the Goa'uld commercials now. Picture this; Nirrti walks out into an Abydonian chamber. Her hair lifeless. The announcer says, "Does this ever happen to you? You wake up, feeling good about your god-like self, ready to start your new day of ordering loyal Jaffa slaves around, when you look in your serpent mirror and see your hair is as flat as Hathor's! Well, fear not young goddesses! For we now have a new, revolutionary method of bringing bounce back in your hair. It's the Goa'uld sarcophogus! Yes, the Goa'uld sarcophogus. Perfect for bringing dead hair back to life while also healing wounds, injuries or even fatal experiences." Nirrti talks to teh camera, "It gives my hair the bounce and shine I need to properly rule my corner of the galaxy like a false god should." Announder talks again, "So don't wait, go to your nearest System-Lord-Mart today and pick up your sarcophogus!" Camera zooms in on the sarcophogus as it shines. Then at the bottom of the screen in find print, *warning, sarcophogus may cause certain side-effects. Such as tyrranical tendancies, addiction and possibly certain other personality disorders.*

So, waddya think? :cool:

[zats]

I think you need to cut down on your sugar intake.

Okay, okay, fine. Funny. Happy?

[Daniel's_twin]

Yes, actually. Lol. Thanks. :cool:

[LMichelle]

LOL, Daniel's twin. :D I guess curly hair is also a side effect (good or bad) for people that use it. :p It also gave Daniel the ability to be a really good kisser. I'd have loved to be Shyla for that moment. *swoons*

I loved Daniel sitting on his "throne". "The man who would be king." :)

[Daniel's_twin]

The robes really weren't Daniel, though. :cool:

[zats]

And the hair was kind of creepy. (Mine does that in electrical storms). Curly + Daniel just seems a little strange.

[Elite Anubis Guard]

when i was watching it reminded my of something theyd do on infinty, the dont do drugs message, then i realized they had which basically same idea, magic beeds that made u strong and health.

anyway, not my favorite of episodes but it helps set up the idea behind the 'magic box' and the Tok'ra some nice development on the characters aswell!

[JackDaniels]

"She wants me to marry her!"

God an episode I never know if I love or hate if ever there was one. Daniel episodes my favourite. where he's a sarcophagus seeking junkie I'm not too sure. As for the princess, can't stand her. She had pretty much no redeeming features, and she almost physicaly abused him in order to get him to stay, not really accepting that he would turn into as much of a b****** as her father if he kept using it.

Why they always have to blow up the sarcophagus I don't know, but I suppose it would become a bit too useful and they'd kill someone every week just to get it in.

The other thing that screams out at me for this episode is Daniel, when he admits to the princess that he's never really felt at home anywhere before, not even on earth. Put into a new context, Daniel realises what he said and spends the next couple of years trying to find his place until ascension comes a-knocking. Ohh what a long running arc that turned out to be.

[Captain-Peregrine]

I just saw this one yesterday...ooooooh! Poor Danny and his pick of women. They either die, get abducted or make him an addict. He's just having no luck!

But he sure is hot when he's phsyco! :D

[Hex.FTB.enabled]

Ok, Shyla is just annooooying. But she's needed to get the plot ball rolling, so I'll accept it. I thought Daniel was great in this episode. Some very funny scenes. But my fav part is the end with Jack and Daniel. There's something in Jack's voice when he says "I know what it's like" that gave me chills. Very touching scene.

[fair_nymph]

I loved MS's acting in this -- it was eerily good, and rather appealing in a way too.

I also liked learning more about the sarcophagus and how it works. Medically, I foudn it very interesting.

[jckfan55]

I sure wouldn't mind having my nearsightedness cured. But the price is a tad too high...

[fair_nymph]

Hey....that makes me think...shouldn't Daniel's perfected eyesight be permanent, just as the repair of any other disease or wound would be?

[Im_just_guessing]

I don't think so, because

1. It isnt :p

2. He makes comments about how it has special effects with prolonged use

3. He's used a sarcophagus before, and his vision wasn't repaired

4. It isnt :p

[fair_nymph]

3. He's used a sarcophagus before, and his vision wasn't repaired
That's true, so hey, at least they are consistent.

But it still doesn't quite jive with my understanding of the sarcophagus...

[Im_just_guessing]

I think that its bonus effects dont really stay, which would be why Daniel gets less evil...and how all the extra stuff he gets disaperates.

[ShimmeringStar]

Did any one mention how the sarcophagus seems to have a hair styling setting? Daniel's hair is much more coiffed when he comes out of it.
It sets hair, mends blasted, torn clothing, brings back the dead.... is there anything it doesn't do???? :p

[ShimmeringStar]

The only problem I had was that Shyla said she had never used the sarcophagus yet when Daniel returned he told her she had to stop using it and that it would be hard without it. That was the only inconsistency that really bothered me.I hadn't remembered her saying she hadn't used it before... just remembered the dialogue of the last scene. But yes, it’s true… early on she does say she was young enough that she hadn’t needed the sarc, but at the end Daniel acts like she has been using it. (Maybe she started using it off-camera after Daniel arrived, assuming he would be with her permanently and she would have to ‘keep up’ with his usage?) :rolleyes: :D

[ShimmeringStar]

It was interesting that Shyla wanted her father to believe in her and let her make leadership decisions, and that she wouldn't take action to usurp his power either even knowing he wasn't of sound mind anymore. So she has fun with her Daniel diversion... Also interesting was that whole self-fufilling prophecy thing - her making Daniel into the object of her mother’s statements (that a ‘great man would come from beyond the sun’ for her). Since it seemed that they didn't get many visitors to the world… it’d make sense that she jumped Dan… (And midway through Shyla does admit to him that she kept the team in the mines to keep him close to her…)

Another 'evil' Daniel scene - him telling Hammond a lie about the mission being the same and more time being needed to resolve the situation diplomatically when the rest of the team was really dying down in the mines and he was off enjoying the fruits of the sarc...

Funny dialogue:

Sam (talking about her post-Jolinar Goa’uld-sensing ability): “Lately, I…I get this weird feeling when I'm near Teal'c.”
To which Jack responds: “Hey, who doesn't?” :)

Or Jack (to Daniel later): “Well. It's surprisingly difficult to kill you, isn't it?” :p

[Daniel's_twin]

It sets hair, mends blasted, torn clothing, brings back the dead.... is there anything it doesn't do???? :p

Actually, it does everything but take care of the clothes. :cool:

[jckfan55]

Actually, it does everything but take care of the clothes. :cool:
It miraculously fixed Daniel's shirt when he was shot on the Gouald ship in a previous episode.

[SmartFox]

Daniel was hilarious in this one. It was like he was high. Of course he was, he was high on the Sarc.
How many Aliens will Daniel get Married/Engaged to?

[Im_just_guessing]

Havent watched this episode in awhile, but can someone tell me. Does Daniel DIE in this episode? Or does he just get injured?

Making a list of the times Daniel dies...

[Hex.FTB.enabled]

Havent watched this episode in awhile, but can someone tell me. Does Daniel DIE in this episode? Or does he just get injured?

Making a list of the times Daniel dies...

Shyla said "you were badly injured" so I don't think he died.

[SmartFox]

He would of though had he not gotten in the Sarc or gotten medical attention immediatly. Sam says that after they think Daniel dies.

[PugGate]

Daniel should just die and stay dead. It would just be easier on the scorecard.

I'm disturbed at the relative ease at which MS is able to portray a psycho, addict, maniac, etc.

[Hex.FTB.enabled]

I'm disturbed at the relative ease at which MS is able to portray a psycho, addict, maniac, etc.

To paraphrase Laurence Olivier: It's called acting. :D

[fair_nymph]

It miraculously fixed Daniel's shirt when he was shot on the Gouald ship in a previous episode.
I noticed this as well...just a little slip-up was my assumption.

[jckfan55]

I noticed this as well...just a little slip-up was my assumption.
I think the sarc was left on the "clothes repair" setting. :D

[fair_nymph]

In that case, I need to get me one of those. Does it get rid of stains too? :D

[QuiGonJohn]

I wonder if the sarc gives all these bad effects if you only use it when dead or seriously injured. Everything we have seen up to this episode would indicate it does not. That in those instances, it just heals you. If so, you think these people would have kept the sarc, but limited it's use to those purposes.

[Tal'Mak_Josh]

this was one of the worst eps i have see

storyline stupid n not done well

[Daniel's_twin]

I wonder if the sarc gives all these bad effects if you only use it when dead or seriously injured. Everything we have seen up to this episode would indicate it does not. That in those instances, it just heals you. If so, you think these people would have kept the sarc, but limited it's use to those purposes.

The way I understand it, that works but only to an extant. You remember when Jack was being held by Baal, and he kept killing him and bringing him back? Eventually, Daniel said, Jack would cease to be Jack if he kept on going in the sarc. I figure, yes, it's alright if you're seriously injured/killed and you go in, but you can't keep doing it. Eventually, the "negative energy" from the sarc would take over. :cool:

[John Preston]

Going into the Sarco when you're healthy causes you to get stronger, healthier and crazier.

[zats]

A bit like PF Flyers (from Sandlot, I think)!

[Heru'urs_first_prime]

the only thing that I didn't like about this episode was the bit where Daniel and Sam where at the SGC and he goes all angry and throws stuff off the floor: poor Sam did you see her face!?!?!? I was really sad! i would have bought her millions of flowers if I were Daniel
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[1DanielForMe]

Daniel should just die and stay dead. It would just be easier on the scorecard.Quite a few people (including myself, of course) would have a big problem with that.

As far as 'Need', this is my second least favourite episode (after Meridian). I despise what Daniel becomes in this episode, and then when he's overwhelmed with the withdrawal and everything, and cries at the end, it's all too much. I saw this episode once, that was more than enough.

[.:Lemon:.]

To be honest, this episode creeps me out a bit. Michael Shanks can play crazy people really well....a bit too well at times!

[Stricken]

^lol same I have the same feelings!

but MS acted brill in this episode

[Metarock Sam]

The ep was great with the introduction that Sarcophagus is bad aswell as very addictive. MS played it very well suprisingly he does mental greatly in Need, Legacy and in no way forgetting Lifeboat.

[Albion]

I've always found this a very enjoyable episode. I like the way that they portrayed the decline of Daniel as the sarcophagus got a hold of him more and more and it's very much a character-based episode, which are always my favourites. I liked what it said about Jack and Daniel's relationship and the ending always struck me as very poignant.

Plus I'm always very happy when two obviously hetrosexual males are shown to have such a strong, non-sexual friendship that they can support one another in a crisis, hug and even cry, without worrying about being thought gay. When Jack reaches out to Daniel at the end and just rocks him like a child...well, I just choke up every time I watch that scene. Choking up now just thinking about it. <snuffle>

I thought MS did a terrific job of portraying Daniel's descent into addication and it was a very powerful metaphor for drug abuse. Excellent dialogue, performances and script all round. And although the whole hook for the real meat of the plot - the princess with a crush angle - was a little cliched initially for my tastes, it took on an edge that made it less so as the episode progressed. As it turned out Daniel and Shayla's relationship was rather sweet. Bittersweet, in fact. A darker edge which cancelled out the cliched aspect rather nicely.

Plus, it has some nice humour interspersed with the drama and tension. What more can you ask for?

Carter: Lately, I get this weird feeling when I'm near Teal'c.
Jack: Hey, who doesn't?

:p

Albion :)

[walter_MacChevron]

Yet another good Daniel eppy (it was average)......I loved Jack and his interaction with Daniel when Jack was working in the mines

[jazz!]

Danny's Eyesight Was Bought Back To Normal Thanks To The SarcophAgus!

But Why Is His Vision Impared When Not Using It; Ie: Wearing Glasses Again?


Is The Affect Of The Healing Device Only Temporary? -> Contradiction!

[Daniel's_twin]

OK, basically, I theorize that since the sarcophogus acts as a narcodic, the effects that would be synthesized in the human body would react like a drug, albeit a very powerful one. So long as you're using it while you're still healthy, you'll have to keep using it in order to keep up its positive aspects. But, when Daniel went through withdrawals, all of the negative as well as positive aspects were flushed out together. Without the constant support of the sarc, his body would revert back to its normal state of health. :cool:

[jazz!]

Thanks!

But...........

so the sarc. can revive some1 from death and once they stop using the sarc. the person won't revert back to the "normal" or previous state of health => death!

[Daniel's_twin]

Oh, sorry. I thought I addressed that, but looking over my post, I didn't.

The effects of the sarc would probably wear off when a person is using it when they're already healthy, but if a person uses it just to boost their health to its normal state (flu, malaria, death, etc.), it would act more like... OK, picture your health as a path with a lot of potholes, the potholes being your sick/death moments. If you fall into those holes, it'll take a while to get out. The sarc acts like a step ladder or a board or something like that, when used to get out of or pass over the potholes, you'll just keep on going straight and level. The effects would be permenant. But if you use that ladder over and over again, not just to keep from falling into the holes but to go higher and higher, you'll need that ladder just to keep from falling. If you take away that ladder, well, you get the idea (splat!). Does that help a little? :cool:

[jazz!]

Oh, sorry. I thought I addressed that, but looking over my post, I didn't.

The effects of the sarc would probably wear off when a person is using it when they're already healthy, but if a person uses it just to boost their health to its normal state (flu, malaria, death, etc.), it would act more like... OK, picture your health as a path with a lot of potholes, the potholes being your sick/death moments. If you fall into those holes, it'll take a while to get out. The sarc acts like a step ladder or a board or something like that, when used to get out of or pass over the potholes, you'll just keep on going straight and level. The effects would be permenant. But if you use that ladder over and over again, not just to keep from falling into the holes but to go higher and higher, you'll need that ladder just to keep from falling. If you take away that ladder, well, you get the idea (splat!). Does that help a little? :cool:

lol - get a better ladder! or hope that the path goes to a higher plane (of existence):rolleyes:

[GLink]

Seeing Danile as a junkie was priceless to say the least. It was just uber cool!

[captain jake]

I realy was mad at daniel in this episode you think he woul be smarter!!

[Pharaoh Atem]

agreed with the above but he does mention in season 6 just how bad a sarcophagus can be so he must have learned soemthing from this

[captain jake]

Yes well I didn't have to wait tell he said that in season 6 to pick that up.(I don't think you did either)

[Miyth]

I absolutely ADORED this episode :) ! I think it was really well played out. Not only did it give insight into the Goa'uld and the Sarcophagus, but it also tells you a lot about Daniel. Some of the emotions portrayed were really significant ones in my own opinion.

I am amazed at Michael Shanks acting skills, and can't help but grin at even the most horrifying and emotional episodes simply because of the art involved.

If ever there was an actor I would want to shake hands with, it would be Michael Shanks.

[captain jake]

Welcome to the forum

Yes I agree he is a great actor but this was not his best episode.

[Dani347]

I absolutely ADORED this episode :) ! I think it was really well played out. Not only did it give insight into the Goa'uld and the Sarcophagus, but it also tells you a lot about Daniel. Some of the emotions portrayed were really significant ones in my own opinion.

I am amazed at Michael Shanks acting skills, and can't help but grin at even the most horrifying and emotional episodes simply because of the art involved.

If ever there was an actor I would want to shake hands with, it would be Michael Shanks.


Well, I agree on MS' acting skills. And, you make a good point about the significance of the emotions. This was the episode that gave me my theory that the first stage of sarcophagus addiction is taking your actual feelings and dropping the filter from them, and later on turning you into someone your not. When Daniel said that Jack never gave him any respect, I think those feelings were genuinely his, and it was only the addiction that made him say them out loud. I mean, not that he never felt any respect from Jack, but I could believe that one part of him doubted it, and while on a normal day, he could say that it was maybe his own insecurity or that Jack respected him in his own way, with the sarcophagus, all that was stripped away. I don't think he ever really meant Sam didn't know what love was. That was the withdrawal talking, and it couching things in the most hateful way possible, but he could have felt that no one could really understand the unique situation he was going through with Sha're.

[Sheppard]

yeah this episode was cool i liked the idea of daniel living in a gou'ald pyramid he must feel right at home considering he argued a point in the movie about pyramids being landing platforms

[Daniel's_twin]

I don't think he even cared about that kind of stuff at that point. Before he got hooked on the sarc, he would have been too concerned about getting the others out. After he got hooked on the sarc, well, I get the feeling that historical significance was not quite on his mind. :cool:

[Sheppard]

yeah true it must be like ford being hocked on the wraith enzine

[trombonist15]

Michael Shanks was great in this episode... but I still didn't like it very much.

[Camelot]

The episode is ok. It's quiet interesting how the sarcophagus changed Daniel's opinion. At the beginning he did everything to free his friends but after using the sarcophagus several times he didn't care much about his friends anymore.

[plastic]

:daniel:MS acting skills are great in this episode it amazes me by how well he can play a 'mad' person. this episode is great and one of my favourites this season :):):)

[Theimmortaljedi]

I thought it handled addiction well. Not preachy. MS really did a good job of being a junkie with out being over the top.

[garhkal]

And it also went a long way to show why the Gou'ald are so evil...

[Harlan's Speechwriter]

It's amazing how many issues Stargate manages to cover, isn't it? MS was great in this episode.

[Theimmortaljedi]

"indeed":tealc:

[madaboutdanny]

Michael Shanks at his best!

[Cheerful Dragon]

This is not one of my favourite episodes. I've only seen it twice. The first time was OK because it was new to me. The second time I didn't enjoy it at all but I can't put my finger on why. The acting was mostly OK, particularly Daniel as an addict and going through withdrawal. The story was OK, although I don't think the sarcophagus is solely (or even mostly) to blame for the Goa'uld being the way they are. I guess it's just going to be one of the episodes I don't watch much.

[HelloVelo]

I actually thought Daniel and Shyla were a cute couple.

My Rating: 6/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/06/need.html

[captain jake]

I actually thought Daniel and Shyla were a cute couple.

My Rating: 6/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/06/need.html

I really didn't like Shyla, she was controlling, manipulative, suicidal, and mentally insane in general. Sure she had a pretty face but she was completely over the edge. I really do hope that the SGC straightened things out on that planet. It would be completely irresponsible to allow those people to keep shoveling Naquadah to the Goa'uld.

[L E E]

Nice going Danny. Got his team in trouble because of his impulsiveness. He seems to have forgotten that he is part of a team. Then gets himself addicted to the sarcophagus. &quot;Distressful damsel&quot; as Captain Jack Sparrow would say.

How long where the rest of the SG1 in the mines? With only water to survive?
Acting wise, everyone did a great job. Though Sam is not my fave char., I loved Sam's reaction to Danny the first time they see him acting loopy. She looked so shocked and fearful at the same time.The scene between Jack and Daniel when Daniel broke down was really well done as well.I hope Daniel remembers how good a friend Jack. I hope he appreciates the trust Jack gave him when he supported Daniel in going back to the planet. Jack can be really snarky and trigger-happy and closed-minded at times, but when it comes down to it, he is a good friend.

[L E E]

I really didn't like Shyla, she was controlling, manipulative, suicidal, and mentally insane in general. Sure she had a pretty face but she was completely over the edge. I really do hope that the SGC straightened things out on that planet. It would be completely irresponsible to allow those people to keep shoveling Naquadah to the Goa'uld.

totally agree with you. pitiful woman.

[captain jake]

Nice going Danny. Got his team in trouble because of his impulsiveness. He seems to have forgotten that he is part of a team. Then gets himself addicted to the sarcophagus. "Distressful damsel" as Captain Jack Sparrow would say.

I don't blame Daniel for what happened, he was attempting to get them out when he was being addicted to the sarcophagus. There was nothing he could do other than play along with Shyla and try to get her to release his friends.

[pritnep]

Not a bad episode, acting was top notch - well done Michael Shanks, music was good and we got to learn more about Goa'uld technology.

It goes to explain how the Goa'uld are so evil but like others have said I don't think it's the only contributing factor, maybe but after hundreds/thousands of years of use you can see where it can lead you. Interesting about Sam recalling memory/having a vision from the time she had a Tok'ra in her.

Jack's comment "I've seen an awful lot of union violations here I should probably speak to your supervisors, Hi ho hi ho back to work" :lol:

To be fair if anyone is at fault for Shyla's behaviour then it is her parents. It seemed she but a lonely life without others for company, guidance or even friendship so when the man her Mother spoke of came of course she wasn't going to let him go, even if it was deceitful. Also she wanted to please her aging/dying Father.

The Goa'uld that originally mined the planet must of only been a minor Goa'uld otherwise you would think other ships might come or jaffa replacements/rotation etc. But I guess they got their supply sent through the gate they didn't care.

Not the best episode but still good all the same.

[Black_Sheep]

Not bad, but nothing special. I would give this ep 7/10

Shyla was cute :D

[Pic]

I don't blame Daniel for what happened, he was attempting to get them out when he was being addicted to the sarcophagus. There was nothing he could do other than play along with Shyla and try to get her to release his friends.

Well, I'm kinda on the fence. While I agree that he did come through in the end, his impulsiveness got them into trouble in the first place.

Even all sarcophaddicted, he still has a way with the ladies, doesn't he?
"Daniel, you dog you." (yes, I know, wrong ep) ;)

The moral of the story? There is no such thing as a free ride and even the sun burns if you get too much.

[RononXSpecialist]

Aha Daniel reminded me of a rich kid on Crack in this Ep..
I'd have to say its one of the more boring eps of season 2.

[Butlersgate]

i found the woman annoying imo but still a good episode :D

[Death Jester]

Watched this again yesterday. The woman really annoys me but it's a fun enough episode. Daniel going nuts always entertains me - especially the crazed look on his face when he punches the living daylights out of the guard!

[The Stig]

This episode further extends the understanding of the Goa'uld's evilness.

Indeed it does. Daniel seems to have a bit of a thing for offworld girls doesn't he.

[lordofseas]

Ya, the girl seemed a bit....clingy. But I thought it was a good tech episode, showing the baddyness of the sarcophagus.

[Girlbot]

OK, just watched this ep again. One question. When Daniel was talking to Jack about how hard the withdrawal is. Jack said "believe me I know what you mean". Was Jack referring to some addiction he had, if so, what was it, when did we find out about it. ? Somehow I missed that part or ep.

[Kyarra]

Did anyone catch the definition of the goa'uld word Sam gave teal'c? I couldn't quite catch it.

[Tachyon]

I gotta say that I didn't like this episode from the first watch. However, when watching it again I started to appreciate it more. Though I still think that making Daniel a little bit crazier and his recovery a little bit more difficult would have added some depth to the story, for me at least.

I like the fact that the "bad side effects" of the sarcophagus were introduced. It is an interesting concpet and a necessary one, I think.

[newbeestl]

I thought it was a pretty good episode. I'm very interested to see if "we" start to develop anything with the naquadah.

[mrscopterdoc]

This was interesting. Great acting by Daniel/MS, he plays a nutso very well. :P But it was disturbing to see him like that, and what he did to the team. But I guess that was the whole point.

[hlndncr]

Shyla creeps me out. Her off kilter crown always makes want to turn it around or maybe grab it and stomp on it.

MS did a great job showing an addict in need of a fix (not that I'd know of course).

I do love how the team comes through for Daniel in the end.

And we get the building of the mythology behind Sam's abilities (sensing Goa'uld and accessing Jolinar's Memories) that come to play an important role later on.

But overall, not really that great of an ep IMO.

[maneth]

Loved the ep, really showed Michael Shanks' strengths as an actor. He was very believable as an addict and then going through withdrawal.

Thought O'Neill's Star Wars reference about Jackson going Dark Side on them was fun.

[Tallifer]

I thoroughly enjoyed this story. Daniel was very entertaining as he became more and more addicted to the sarcophagus (until of course his plight became fully apparent). The scenes in the mine were priceless!

The initial swooning of the princess over Daniel was also hilarious. Lucky fellow!

Additionally, the story added more depth to our understanding of Goauld society, since it revealed the negative psychological effects of the sarcophagi.

[HolyAngelQueenSG-1]

Jack,Sam and teal C not fair at Daniel has Psyco. I like it episode. :D
:tealcanime51: :samanime15: :jack_new_anime25: :daniel24:

[Noxbait]

ok...so to start with, it was Jack who opened his mouth and said that she was going to jump! If he hadn't spoken up...guess who wouldn't have run off and grabbed her. Honestly, by this time, you would think that the team would have a clue and realise there are times they really need to sit on Daniel to keep him from going off to do his typical thing. Jack shouldn't have waited by the tree...he should have just grabbed him!

Not really all Daniel's fault. : )

Shyla's something else!
she totally makes me think of a movie character from the 30s or 40s. Seductive and glamorous, but not too bright, manipulative and "helpless" but, oh yea...manipulative...and again...manipulative. ; ) I'm sensing a pattern.
I love jack's line..."surprisingly difficult to kill you..." : )
I love the dinner scene...Daniel figures it out pretty quick...and he's trying trying! oh yeah..there's that manipulative Shyla again. Boy...I'm liking her less and less with each scene. She is worse than I remembered from my 1st viewing. She's out for one thing and one thing only. what a jerk. she knew full well what she was doing to Daniel...he can't help but "help" her. "trust me and I will trust you." ew! And up to this point, obviously...had they ever had any idea about the problem with too much sarcophagus? nope...live and learn.

I'm glad that Sam got a vision that helped them figure out what was going on and that Daniel wasn't just being a jerk...but was in trouble.
I love Hammond's reaction when Jack gives him his post-mision "Report" when they come off the ramp. : )

They figured it out pretty quick what was going on, thankfully. Sam nailed it quick that it was like a narcotic. I like that Daniel was hanging out in her lab..even though he was being a jerk...it was like something he did all the time (hang out with Sam). I love that.

Poor poor Janet... that poor woman always has to say "I have no idea." I love Janet.

whoa...i totally forgot how intense the storeroom fight was...and how wonderful the end of it was. ; ) Jack is awesome. I really am enjoying my rewatch of SG1...I had totally forgotten how really good these first seasons were. (yeah a few bum episodes, buy mostly great).
Ok...so at the end, I'm feeling more kindly inclined to Shyla. An amazing and wonderful end to the episode. : ) Great overall.

[FrodoFraggins]

6/10

MS did a great job but I was pretty bored throughout the episode. I'm just not a fan of the planet of the week type of episodes. I prefer those episodes that impact the long term story.

[muziqaz]

I agree with most of what was said in this thread, Michael Shanks played his character extremely well. During it I managed even to start hating Daniel for a short period of time :) Really great performance.
Also like how other kept with him all the time, if I was in their situation I would have slapped Daniel silly and confined him until he is better :D

[garhkal]

Anyone know if shanks won any acting awards for this ep?

[hedwig]

Anyone know if shanks won any acting awards for this ep?

No, he didn't. He did, however, win a Leo for his performance in S7, "Lifeboat", and for his role in "Continuum". He was nominated for several other awards, but didn't win any of those.

[poundpuppy29]

whenever I watch this ep I say "Bad Daniel you have a wife remember" he did kiss her after only one use of the devise MS was awesome in this ep

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

jack mentions to daniel that he knows what it is like to be addicted to something, does that mean our fearless colonel did drugs at some point or was he talking about him smoking like we saw in stargate the movie?

[muziqaz]

jack mentions to daniel that he knows what it is like to be addicted to something, does that mean our fearless colonel did drugs at some point or was he talking about him smoking like we saw in stargate the movie?
who knows maybe he undercover for some drug lord :D

[LeftHandedGuitarist]

Not a great episode until we go back to the SGC, and Michael Shanks does a great job as the addicted Daniel. I'd love to learn more about the addiction Jack hints at. Shyla is an unpleasant character once we understand what she's doing to keep Daniel around, but she's just as much a victim as he is in the end.

Still, I struggle to enjoy the episode. I think SG-1 had the right to be a lot more angry than they were with their treatment. This is an easily forgettable episode which has no real repurcussions down the line, not even for Daniel who was seriously screwed over.

It gives us our first experience of Sam having a memory from Jolinar. My favourite line: "Lately I get this weird feeling when I'm around Teal'c." "Who doesn't?"

RATING: 5.5 out of 10

[Nindif]

Shyla is an unpleasant character once we understand what she's doing to keep Daniel around, but she's just as much a victim as he is in the end.

Still, I struggle to enjoy the episode. I think SG-1 had the right to be a lot more angry than they were with their treatment. This is an easily forgettable episode which has no real repurcussions down the line, not even for Daniel who was seriously screwed over.


Agreed. The fact that SG1 are being held prisoner, and for most of the episode do nothing, just makes the episode drag on and lack a sense of urgency or jeapardy. Shyla was just annoying and i didn't like that the whole episode played on the running gag that Daniel manages to attract women wherever he goes. It's humorous in passing but not worthy of a full dedicated episode.

Nice performance from Shanks but i watched it 10 minutes ago and am forgetting it already.

[dtheories]

It's all about the sarc. And Daniel...he's so sincere in his remorse for getting the team into the situation and later at his clueless best while verbalizing his understanding of the elaborate game of smoke and mirrors being played by Shyla and her father...while in the presence of both!

Daniel's deep rooted resentment of being the *weakest link* on the team and receiving less respect is in evidence once the addiction is at its peak, but it's the friendship that has developed between Jack and Daniel that is the most precious. Michael Shanks' gives a tour-de-force performance in the storage room and it is only fitting that Jack be there beside him at the most pain filled moment.

[LeftHandedGuitarist]

I had forgotten about the "you never show me any respect" line. Even though Daniel's not in his right mind, it's a very true statement and quite a powerful moment.

[garhkal]

It's all about the sarc. And Daniel...he's so sincere in his remorse for getting the team into the situation and later at his clueless best while verbalizing his understanding of the elaborate game of smoke and mirrors being played by Shyla and her father...while in the presence of both!

Daniel's deep rooted resentment of being the *weakest link* on the team and receiving less respect is in evidence once the addiction is at its peak, but it's the friendship that has developed between Jack and Daniel that is the most precious. Michael Shanks' gives a tour-de-force performance in the storage room and it is only fitting that Jack be there beside him at the most pain filled moment.

Anyone know if shanks got any awards for this ep>

[Jae'a]

My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/7950.html)

So does the sarcophagus contain Morphine? Seems to have the same effects! :P Or what's that one that House uses...Vicodin

[hlndncr]

I've commented on this episode before and my opinion hasn't changed.

I don't really care for this episode. Shyla is creepy and has bad fashion sense.

The strengthening of the friendship between Jack and Daniel is nice.

As for Jack's addiction that was hinted at in this episode, I always thought that had something to do with him coming back from Iraq or the mission where he broke all those bones. It's not uncommon to become addicted to pain meds when recovering from severe injuries or illness. My brother had such an experience. Recovery was hell, and detox afterward was equally bad.




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[Krisz]

Another episode I've only watched twice before this. It dragged for me too, Daniel going wacko, and then the withdrawal was the only good part of this episode.

I think his performance in this episode was better than in 'Lifeboat', I felt he was overdoing it a bit at times in that ep, but then that's just my humble opinion!

[NowIWillDestroyAbydos]

Average episode. Daniel goes crazy because of the Sarcophagus, and treats the rest of SG-1 like crap for a little while.

Tomorrow, we officially meet the Asgard.

[hedwig]

I find it hard to accept how easily Daniel dismissed his friends after only one "visit" to the sarcophagus. He went to see them and pretty much ignored their predicament, while he got to be surrounded by luxury and good food and a Princess waiting on him hand and foot. He should have been more concerned about the conditions his friends were in than anything else.

[Krisz]

I find it hard to accept how easily Daniel dismissed his friends after only one "visit" to the sarcophagus. He went to see them and pretty much ignored their predicament, while he got to be surrounded by luxury and good food and a Princess waiting on him hand and foot. He should have been more concerned about the conditions his friends were in than anything else.

I guess that emphasized what a rapid negative effect the sarcophagus has on the human psyche.

[jelgate]

Some episodes falter on bad writing. Others on bad acting. This episode is the latter. Shiyla and her crush on Daniel is unconvincing I don't buy her that well. The theme of the evil of the sarcophagus and Daniel being drugged is a good idea along with human masquerading as Goa'ulds/Jaffa. I just think the poor acting is what kills this episode. Excluding Daniel's withdrawl at the SGC. That was awesome

[Lieutenant Sparrow]

Not the most entertaining ep but at least we get some interesting info on the sarcophagus.

[Noxbait]

It's all about the sarc. And Daniel...he's so sincere in his remorse for getting the team into the situation and later at his clueless best while verbalizing his understanding of the elaborate game of smoke and mirrors being played by Shyla and her father...while in the presence of both!

Daniel's deep rooted resentment of being the *weakest link* on the team and receiving less respect is in evidence once the addiction is at its peak, but it's the friendship that has developed between Jack and Daniel that is the most precious. Michael Shanks' gives a tour-de-force performance in the storage room and it is only fitting that Jack be there beside him at the most pain filled moment.

Great post, I agree totally. Daniel keeps a lot of hurt locked up inside and I think that this experience really brought to light his feelings of inadequacy and some of the scars left over from being the laughing stock of academia. That doesn't show up a lot, but come on...it must have really stung to have your life turned upside down like that! And then to be struggling so hard to fit in with the military mindset (not his strong suit) on a daily basis and have even Jack, really his closest friend, harass him frequently would be hard. The addiction just freed up his inhibitions at saying so! I like the emotional and heart-wrenching scenes after they come back to the SGC, although I think some of the rest of it could have been done better and made the part back on the planet stronger.

Anyway, I love how there was such an emphasis on their friendship. To me, that is what makes the show.

[ekolint48]

I find it hard to accept how easily Daniel dismissed his friends after only one "visit" to the sarcophagus. He went to see them and pretty much ignored their predicament, while he got to be surrounded by luxury and good food and a Princess waiting on him hand and foot. He should have been more concerned about the conditions his friends were in than anything else.

It had actually been several days since his first visit to the mines to see the rest of the team, and when asked by Sam how many times he'd used the sarcophagus Daniel said it had been about 9 or 10 times. That would be more than enough uses for him to be addicted and adversely affected by the device, manifesting in his disregard for his friends and his irrational outburst at Jack.

[another scientist]

I think a big part of the problem was that Daniel used the sarcophagus when he was unharmed, it's like taking a lot of strong medicine (e.g. morphine) when you are not sick.
Also he was not completely uncaring toward his friends, he was simply more susceptible to Shiyla's assurances that they where fine and she would eventually free them.

Anyway really love Shank's acting here, you cloud actually feel Daniel's pain of withdrawal.

[Starscape91]

First time I saw the woman on the cliff top I knew it was going to be one of the Daniel's groupie episodes. Had some nice acting from Shanks though.

[Matt G]

So it was back to watching SG1 on Sunday afternoons...just to fill in gaps.

1. Set up looked interesting enough.

2. Of course Sam was still getting used to Jolinar's influence at this point which was slightly jarring for someone who had already watched S3.

3. Forgot that Daniel's glasses got smashed.

4. Forgot exactly how messed in the head Daniel got.

A tep up from Gamekeeper and worked pretty solidly both times round(even though I don't think I'd seen it for over a decade!)

[Skydiver]

I honestly have to fast forward through all the addiction stuff. As a whole, this is my least favorite episode of all of them. I'm not a fan of 'chewing the scenery' stuff, so I find it cringeworthy (sacrilege i know)

sometimes it feels like the episode as a whole waas kinda half baked.....it was all set up for daniel to detox and if you don't enjoy that aspect of it, then everything else feels like a letdown
shyla is undoubtedly whacked :) and I resisted the urge to reach into the screen and turn her tiara around the right way.

as a whole, this remains one of the 'always skip it' episodes

[Skydiver]

I think a big part of the problem was that Daniel used the sarcophagus when he was unharmed, it's like taking a lot of strong medicine (e.g. morphine) when you are not sick.
Also he was not completely uncaring toward his friends, he was simply more susceptible to Shiyla's assurances that they where fine and she would eventually free them.

Anyway really love Shank's acting here, you cloud actually feel Daniel's pain of withdrawal.

that's how i interpret the sarc. Use it when you're hurt and you use it with no ill effects. Use it on a daily basis when you're healthy, you get hooked.

[Nut_ty]

The pace of the 1st halp of the episode is too slow. I wish thet could have spent less time establishing the mind altering feature of the sarcophagus, and more on its consequences, not only mentally but socially as well.

MS shows his acting talents in this episode (an arrogent Daniel-who'd believe it!). a taste of more to come!

Is this the 1st episode where Daniel really loses it? I don't count "There but for the Grace of God" as Daniel losing it, fustrated-yes, but being out-of-control"-no.

[Noxbait]

The pace of the 1st halp of the episode is too slow. I wish thet could have spent less time establishing the mind altering feature of the sarcophagus, and more on its consequences, not only mentally but socially as well.

MS shows his acting talents in this episode (an arrogent Daniel-who'd believe it!). a taste of more to come!

Is this the 1st episode where Daniel really loses it? I don't count "There but for the Grace of God" as Daniel losing it, fustrated-yes, but being out-of-control"-no.

I totally agree on all points. And yeah, I think this is the 1st time he officially loses it. :)

[VampyreWraith]

MS does Daniel losing it well. I like this episode for Daniel getting addicted to the sarcophagus, turning into an arrogant jerk, and going crazy because of the withdrawl. I really didn't like the princess and her obsession with Daniel, and didn't really care about her people, what was going on with them, or what would happen to them.

[moondragon]

This has always been a middle episode for me, not sucky but not amazing either. One of the best things of this episode was MS acting skills. He definitely sold each stage of the sarcophagus use. From the "high" of daily use to the destructive detox. One of his finest episodes to date! We also got to see the effects of long term sarcophagus use and the posing of a Gou'd to protect themselves. We also got to see Sam dealing with the effects of Jolinar. Im glad that they decided to keep that thread going through several episodes since it made such a huge impact in Sam's life as well as the rest of the team.

[Dimes]

Well at least this time, Jack wasn't the person getting infected etc. or this time addicted.
Episode is a little bit boring.

[Sam-n-Jack-in-<3]

Drug addiction at its finest...erm, worst....? :confused:

[Major Clanger]

Daniel is supposed to be so clever. But at that first dinner with the King he missed his chance to do a deal to get access to naquadah and help that world by providing machinery to dig it out (in return for naquadah)

Michael Shanks' acting was good in this I thought, he did a good but somehow understated job of the addiction taking hold and then the come down. SG-1 are very forbearing actually.

ETA: it bugs me greatly that they didn't take the sarc back for testing. They know that it can heal injuries, because Daniel has used it before without any noticeable side effects. Sam, via Jolinar, knows that if it's used on uninjured/healthy people there are side effects (which this ep amply demonstrates). And in later seasons they have a hugely allergic reaction to using the sarc which I don't, frankly, understand.

But still, worth watching this ep for the bare-footed fight scene in the storage cupboard. ;-)

[garhkal]

Maybe they didn't take it back, cause the people on that planet didn't let us.?

[Major Clanger]

they destroyed it, didn't they?

[Seaboe Muffinchucker]

No, they made it stop working. Not the same as destruction. We don't know (because it was never shown), but the presence of the sarcophagus may have had meaning to the population at large; a meaning that would make removing it a tremendous blow to the political structure.

Seaboe