View Full Version : Stargate FPS Computer Game
petzke_42
June 2nd, 2004, 11:17 AM
What do you want to see? What do you think we will see??
KorbenDirewolf
June 2nd, 2004, 11:24 AM
umm.. Now that we know what is an FPS? And what does FPS stand for here? All I can think of is Frames Per Second.
Bogopimp
June 2nd, 2004, 11:26 AM
umm.. Now that we know what is an FPS? And what does FPS stand for here? All I can think of is Frames Per Second.
first person shooter
I expect we will take on the role of a member of sg1 trying to infilarate some goauld facility. The weapin you use depends upon who you are controlling. Maybe you could even command as general hammon :)
crowhop
June 2nd, 2004, 11:30 AM
Duh...what the heck is an FPS? Fun Packed Series? Full Portal Service? Funky Punk Sam? Fishy Pickled Salmon?
No fair confusing the dumb cowgirl.... :eek:
KorbenDirewolf
June 2nd, 2004, 11:31 AM
first person shooter
Okay :)... So now what are we supposed to now know is a first person shooter?
crowhop
June 2nd, 2004, 11:33 AM
Which is vastly different from a last-person shooter, I'm sure...
I still don't understand.
Bagpuss
June 2nd, 2004, 11:40 AM
I think an FPS game is where you ARE the person firing the guns or whatever.
The whole game is viewed from "Behind" the gun so you are facing the action!
Hope that makes sense! ;)
omnian
June 2nd, 2004, 11:42 AM
Precisely and providing they don't completely screw up the control system I imagine it's gonna be pretty damn good.
Lil Naitch
June 2nd, 2004, 11:43 AM
So...Jack and Cater get a P-90, Danile gets the Glock or whatever the handgun they use is (I can't remember right now) Teal'c gets the staff or zat, and Hammond gets the....Prometheus?
Bagpuss
June 2nd, 2004, 11:46 AM
Could be! Or they could mix up the weapons the characters use,to make the game more interesting? :)
Revet
June 2nd, 2004, 11:51 AM
I think that, as you play different characters all the time they can probably control most, if not all, of the weapons in the game. I'd be intrested to see Sam or Daniel use a staff weapon.
Bogopimp
June 2nd, 2004, 12:45 PM
So...Jack and Cater get a P-90, Danile gets the Glock or whatever the handgun they use is (I can't remember right now) Teal'c gets the staff or zat, and Hammond gets the....Prometheus?
yeah, thatd be fun, daniel you need to go through excrutiatingly shootiugn everyone, jack and sam just waltxz through shotting, tielc required accuracy, hammon just piunts and fires one and its over :P
SeaBee
June 2nd, 2004, 01:54 PM
I am rather worried that the game is going to end up as just another "DOOM" style shoot-em-up, with little in the way of strategy. I much prefer the open style of strategy-based games, where what you decide to do affects the action, rather than shoot-em-up's, where you are only reacting to the action on screen.
I know that FPS games are well engineered, with stunning graphics, but quite often the actual gameplay suffers because of it. It seems to me that a lot of game designers get so involved in the "look" of the game, that the actual user interface with the game becomes limited, and once you've played them a few times you get to know when and where the baddies are going to pop up, because there is no variation in them.
Obviously, there will have to be a lot of action in the game, because the show is action based, but, to be a game that I will want to keep playing, it will need to be more than just "Bang, You're Dead".
KokiriChild
June 2nd, 2004, 03:07 PM
I'd love an FPS - I've even played UT2K4 with a few mods to make it SG-1 style
ShadowMaat
June 2nd, 2004, 03:19 PM
It's too bad Stargate is going to be a FPS game. Guess that means I won't be buying it. :(
I was really REALLY kinda hoping there'd at least be a puzzle-solving sub-game or something. Give those of us who suck at or hate shoot-em-ups a fighting chance, so to speak. ;) Ultimately, though, I don't think I'm surprised. FPS are THE "hot" gaming style and I guess Stargate lends itself to that sort of action stuff. *sigh* I really wanted something I could play... :(
KokiriChild
June 2nd, 2004, 03:21 PM
Oh, it's actually commissioned as an FPS? Daaaaamn. I wanted some kinda RTS game really, or an RPG... But I still like FPS... ahh, now I'm depressed... I think I'm gonna go watch SG: Infinity
ShadowMaat
June 2nd, 2004, 03:24 PM
Oh, it's actually commissioned as an FPS?
There's an article on Gateworld about it: Perception talks SG-1 video game (http://www.gateworld.net/news/productwatch.html#newsitem1086192191,38063,)
HomeLAN (http://www.homelanfed.com/index.php?id=23689) has published a new interview with Ben Lenzo, head of Stargate SG-1 video game developer Perception, about the upcoming PC and console video game. Lenzo reveals that the first Stargate game will be a first-person shooter, but with "non-traditional FPS features, and some way cool unique multiplayer ones."
It goes into a bit more detail, but that's the gist of it, there. FPS, pure and simple. :(
Ugly Pig
June 2nd, 2004, 03:25 PM
ahh, now I'm depressed... I think I'm gonna go watch SG: Infinity
Oh yes... That will help against depression... (Note the sarcasm!) ;)
KokiriChild
June 2nd, 2004, 03:28 PM
It'll help depression (i.e: greaten the effect), it won't cure it ;)
petzke_42
June 2nd, 2004, 03:53 PM
Hey, even if you don't like FPS's, its better than it being a dating sim...dang shippers anyways :P
Lostinmyownvoid
June 25th, 2004, 12:28 PM
I'd rather see a Stargate based A/SCG (Aerial/Space Combat Game) kind of like crimsons skies. Also it should be for Xbox and it should have live support.
petzke_42
June 25th, 2004, 02:53 PM
I don't really think that would work...besides the Jaffa, how often do SG-1 really get to pilot ships into combat? It could be a Goa'uld game I suppose...
Shadow Gate
June 25th, 2004, 03:59 PM
You could be a crewmember or officer on the Prometheus, and you have to fly F-302's when they are dispatched, like say you run into a Goa'uld Mothership, and they launch Death Gliders, you have to take them out, it'd be like StarFox with Stargate stuff.
As for the FPS, I am looking forward to that, mainly because it's Stargate, but I do find FPS's fun.
In my opinion, you will pick up different weapons as you go through levels in the game, like in Enter the Matrix, after you kill/knock out some guys, you can pick up there weapons and use them, and more of the same kind just gives you more ammo, though that wouldn't be the case for Zat's and Staff Weapons. Anyway, so when you get more weapons, you could switch between P-90, a Zat, and a Staff Weapon depending on the situation. Something like that.
petzke_42
June 25th, 2004, 11:33 PM
I hope its actually a good FPS, and not just a standard one with the Stargate name and logo attatched.
Thoth
June 26th, 2004, 06:53 AM
For a stargate game FPS is definetly (sp?) my first choice. But after a while I'd like them to make a game where you control people from over-head, like Age of Empires. What are those games called?
I think that'd be cool. You could either be a minor goa'uld or in charge of Tauri troops. I reckon minor goa'uld would be best. You could have one planet at the start and then expand it, fighting against other goa'ulds, gaining territory, eventually rising to the rank of system lord. It'll never happen, but, it's good to dream.
I don't see how they'd do a puzzle solving game for stargate. I can only see it if it's a FPS and then you have to solve puzzles and find things to get thru certain doors.
MadJaffa
June 26th, 2004, 02:46 PM
Well as I understand it, the development team want's to make an entire frnchice of SG-1 videogames. Only the first will be a FPS. Who knows? Maybe some of the games can link together (think The Sims and Simcity 4). Like you play a level in Stargate: The Goa'uld Strike Back and in a mission tells you to drop SG-1 onto a planet so you load up Statgate: Goa'uld Tomorrow and free up the gate as Jack, Sam, Teal'c, and Daniel. Then you load up Stargate: The Age of System Lords and command a rebel Jaffa army to take on the armys of Ba'al.
LoneStar1836
June 26th, 2004, 03:28 PM
For a stargate game FPS is definetly (sp?) my first choice. But after a while I'd like them to make a game where you control people from over-head, like Age of Empires. What are those games called?
Age of Empires is a real-time strategy game (RTS) as compared to Civilization III which is a turn-based strategy. I prefer Civ III to RTS games, unlike my brother who is obsessed with, playing online, Emperor: Battle for Dune.
Anyway, since they are making the Stargate game a FPS, I wish they would make it a tactical, squad-based shooter like Ghost Recon and the Rainbow 6 franchise. I love playing those games. You have pre-mission planning where you pick the members of your team, deck them out with gear, and plan how you are going to complete the mission. I know the planning of waypoints and orders can get really detailed in preplanning, but I usually skip that and work my teams around the map as I go. It would make the game seem more team oriented, like the tv show is, in my opinion. I think it would feel more like Stargate than just having the first-person view of one character moving through levels like in the Medal of Honor series. Yeah, MOH sometimes gave you teammates to work with, but the AI was more cannon fodder than helpful, and you couldn't control their actions. I hope they at least make the game for PS2, though I prefer playing FPS on a computer, but at the moment the computer I have is not the best for gaming. Now if I had one that could handle Far Cry, then I could only hope and dream the developers of this Stargate game could make a game that looks and sounds as good as Far Cry.
Watters87
June 26th, 2004, 03:46 PM
I'd rather have a RTS like 'Command and Conquer' than a FPS. It'd be fun to be a System Lord and take on other System Lords
Lostinmyownvoid
June 26th, 2004, 03:52 PM
As much as I like an good FPS if it comes out post Novemeber 9th it'll be instantly held up for comparison with Halo 2.
MadJaffa
June 26th, 2004, 06:56 PM
What about Halflife 2 or Doom 3, if they ever show?
Lostinmyownvoid
June 26th, 2004, 07:29 PM
Good point but HL2 is going to flop if it ever comes out (Theres no way you can make a game in the vein of HL without it turning out like a crappy TC) and Doom 3 will be a GFX whore and that is it. Halo 2 will be a masterpeice of Story, Gameplay, and Multiplayer Gameplay.
Mike
June 26th, 2004, 07:47 PM
Stargate wouldn't work as an RTS. It just doesn't have the content suited for an RTS/TBS game.
Thoth
June 27th, 2004, 03:41 PM
Good point but HL2 is going to flop if it ever comes out (Theres no way you can make a game in the vein of HL without it turning out like a crappy TC) and Doom 3 will be a GFX whore and that is it. Halo 2 will be a masterpeice of Story, Gameplay, and Multiplayer Gameplay.
I sense that Lostinmyownvoid (what can we call you for short?) is not being completely objective in his comparisons.
So, what's Turn-Based Strategy then? What do you do in that?
What do they call Sims-like games? Or are they so original that they don't have a name?
Sierra Golf 1
June 28th, 2004, 06:45 PM
if there is a stargate game, they should make it like America's Army, where a cadet is trained through a special program along with standard basic training, leading up to a spot in the stargate program.
petzke_42
June 30th, 2004, 01:45 AM
That is a really good idea.
Lostinmyownvoid
July 2nd, 2004, 06:45 PM
I sense that Lostinmyownvoid (what can we call you for short?) is not being completely objective in his comparisons.
So, what's Turn-Based Strategy then? What do you do in that?
What do they call Sims-like games? Or are they so original that they don't have a name?
1. Call me Void, Lost, or LIMOV(that lasy one was an joke) for short.
2. Turn Based strategy is like Cid Meier's "Alpha Centauri".
3. "Life Simulators"
No mailce was meant by my words but I'm very critical of HL2 simply because I don't think its possible for anyone to make a follow up to a game like HL (It was to inovative for its time, a sequel and the TCs for it [Blue streak and OPFOR] seem like Seirra milking Valves masterpeice for every penny it has got) . And Doom 3 as Visualy amazing as it maybe will be just that a Doom game (Ie no story just senseless blood shed) with very impressive visuals. As much I want both games to be good I know they won't. I trust bungie soley on that their track record for sequels is impressive.
Torley
July 2nd, 2004, 10:17 PM
I remember when Sierra meant quality assured with the likes of King's Quest! Wow, was that ever a "long" time ago.
Stargate might work as an RTS but it'd have to be depersonalized (i.e. NO longer SG-1 centric), and seriously hamper the power of some of the entities (i.e. replicators) from the show for gameplay balance. And even then, I'm not sure how far the brand name would carry the game. "Goa'uld rush!"
youngtusk87
July 2nd, 2004, 11:02 PM
Darn, FPS? I was counting on buying the rights in several years and making a massive online capable third person shooter. I had it all planned out, you can take the roll of either the Gaffa/ Go'ould or one of the SG-C operatives, a large arsenal for the SG-C guys including Mp5A4, M4A1, P90, USAS-12, and several others. You could also take command of some vehicles (jeeps, Gliders, HARRIERS(could happen, Marines don't use em that much anyway.), and basicly anything else that would be cool.) Of course there was also going to be a campaign where you play as an operative on the SG-13 team. But now, i'll never get that chance... It was going to be a *****'in game if I made it...shoot. Oh well, looks liek i'll have to stick to my other ideas.
Thoth
July 6th, 2004, 09:53 AM
2. Turn Based strategy is like Cid Meier's "Alpha Centauri".
Oh right! Cid Meier's 'Alpha Centauri'! Now I get it! (note the sarcasm) :p
I don't think an explanation via examples is gonna work. :(
What do you actually do in it?
Loki
July 6th, 2004, 10:23 AM
I see the game being constructed like this:
Each memeber of the team with have a specific function
Teal'c: Heavy Weapons
Jack: Light Weapons and Explosives
Sam: Technical Doohickeys
Daniel: More of a technical role (puzzle solving)
You'll go through each stage and switch between characters to solve certian puzzles or clear areas. I also think they wiil through is some vehicular combat (gliders and such).
BTW: Halo 2 is gonna blow every FPS away.
Thoth
July 10th, 2004, 05:13 PM
I also think they wiil through is some vehicular combat (gliders and such).
They better. ;)
Ancient
July 10th, 2004, 05:36 PM
I am confident that this game will be good i mean they dont want to ruin the franschise by putting out a ****ty game, but hopefully u will get to command some kind of vehicles like a glider or f-302 it jsut wouldnt be agame without some good'ol death glider ass kicking
AgentX
July 10th, 2004, 05:43 PM
If they could make this game like Star Wars: Knights of the Republic then it would be awesome. Multiple mission objectives, the ability to switch team members to form a more useful SG team - with each main character having their own special expertise or weapon or what have you. If done right it could really be an exciting game to play. Online play also opens up unlimited possibilites. Co-op mode, fight the Goa'uld in a deathmatch...mmmm...online play :)
youngtusk87
July 10th, 2004, 06:37 PM
BTW: Halo 2 is gonna blow every FPS away.
Haha, guess you saw it from my signature that i'm a Halo fan. Yeah I didn't want to say anything like that, but, its true.
Bagpuss
July 11th, 2004, 04:27 AM
I am confident that this game will be good i mean they dont want to ruin the franschise by putting out a ****ty game, but hopefully u will get to command some kind of vehicles like a glider or f-302 it jsut wouldnt be agame without some good'ol death glider ass kicking
Oh,I hope so.On all counts ! :D
(I love Death Gliders and the F-302,and "Flight/battle" simulation games. )
diek
July 16th, 2004, 09:44 PM
I'll buy the game regardless because stargate is about the only non-HDTV show that I watch and follow religiously. I would much rather have a RTS game in the vien of C&C generals. They have all of the sides ready with the characters and mech to make it a very involved game. It could be a very involved RTS with the ability to gate between different worlds during game play. Something I haven't seen in any RTS game because I imagine the CPU juice required to do that would be hefty. But hey, with the new 64bit chips and all the GPU's available, I think it's a very feasible project/game.
Hyperspace
July 16th, 2004, 10:57 PM
I'm looking forward to this game, as long as it's designed well. The Stargate SG-1 maps for Quake III as designed by some fans are excellent, too bad those mods were shut down by MGM's lawyers.
Rav3nblack
July 26th, 2004, 02:33 AM
I'm looking forward to this game, as long as it's designed well. The Stargate SG-1 maps for Quake III as designed by some fans are excellent, too bad those mods were shut down by MGM's lawyers.
What Q3 maps were they? And where can I get them?
- Rav
Conker
July 26th, 2004, 03:20 AM
While we're on the subject of Halo, has anyone else noticed slight similarities between that game and the SG-1 universe? The Flood always remind me of the Replicators, and the Plasma Rifle looks a little bit like a Zat...
Oh, and there's an excellent multiplayer Stargate mod for Half-Life, where you can choose to fight for either the Goa'uld or Tau'ri... You get to use Zats, Staff Weapons, TERs, P90s, Hand Devices and everything... There are even a few maps where you have to go through the gate. It's pretty buggy since it's still in Beta, but it's fun. Get it here:
http://www.stargatetc.com
Janus
July 26th, 2004, 07:15 AM
I think a Stargate FPS would be great !
But maybe you won't get the roles of SG-1, but some new guy who's just joined the program.
VirtualCLD
July 26th, 2004, 11:39 AM
I would like to see an RPG or adventure/problem-solving game. However, if it's more FPSRPG, that would be nice. I don't see an RTS or TBS working too well, nor an RTS-RPG hybrid. I might, and I stress MIGHT, consider buying a MMORPG game of SG-1 if it was really, REALLY, good, but that's stretching it. In the end, I guess I would like an RPG-FPS/adventure problem-solving game (System Shock 2 comes to mind), but that's probably asking too much....
OK, did I confuse anyone with all of those acronyms yet, and are there anymore I've missed?
Ocelot
July 27th, 2004, 12:09 PM
A stargate FPS? I can see the day. Any idea who's ,making it or when it's going to be released????
Yu Huang Shang Ti
July 27th, 2004, 02:29 PM
I'm kinda surprised that everyone's jonesing so hard for an RTS, because Stargate's action has always been closer to Battlefield 1942 than anything else. It could also be a modified squad-level RTS like Freedom Force, but it's not like a run-and-gun shooting experience is completely incongruous with the action we see on the show.
In most episodes, a team of approximately four engages in firefights with an army that typically outnumbers them greatly, while attempting to achieve a small list of goals and then escape the combat zone. Call me crazy, but that's prime FPS/tactical shooter material there.
And as already noted, this probably won't be the only official game we ever see. Making the first one in one of the most popular and accessible genres possible is, if anything else, simply good business sense.
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